What did FSG/Liverpool do in 2010-2011 (before FFP) or since that Newcastle can't do now?
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What did FSG/Liverpool do in 2010-2011 (before FFP) or since that Newcastle can't do now?
Sold a star player for big bucks, something newcastle don't want to do
Sold a star player for big bucks, something newcastle don't want to do
Bingo.
And not just one star player either. Torres, Suarez, Sterling and Coutinho all sold for big money and always when Liverpool "didn't want to". They did though cos they knew they had to and FSG's intentions have always been to make Liverpool self-sustainable rather than to try to act like Billy Big B8ll8cks.
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Didn’t think Liverpool fans would be in this much of a huff, just because we wouldn’t sell them Isak.
This is a transfer thread but I’m pretty sure your revenue was nearly double than our in the early 2010’s.
Ours stagnated under Mike Ashley who was fond of selling our best players.
Also your bingo only works if we don’t have any money to spend. We do. The players just picked other clubs. For reason I stated above.
Also our revenue has doubled? Since the takeover and shown good gains each year. The so called big 6 gap was just that big and new rules invented once our takeover went through.
Ours stagnated under Mike Ashley who was fond of selling our best players.
Also your bingo only works if we don’t have any money to spend. We do. The players just picked other clubs. For reason I stated above.
Also our revenue has doubled? Since the takeover and shown good gains each year. The so called big 6 gap was just that big and new rules invented once our takeover went through.
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Liverpool just don’t want to pay what’s he’s worth. Probably offer 90million with 20 odd in addons and they got told to do one.
Im more than happy with Ekitike thanks, hell he was one of the 5 transfers I wanted back as far as the 13th May this window
Newcastle fans have been a bit weird about the whole isak situation, acting like we took a giant **** in the middle of St James Park (when's the news on a new stadium gonna break? Asking for a friend
) rather than willing to pay a British transfer record. Strange club, strange fanbase.Supposedly, we're (Manchester United) keeping an eye on Jackson - according to Sky at least (yeah, pinch of salt). I couldn't think of a more underwhelming purchase than Jackson, every time I've watched him he squanders chances.
Apparently Chelsea value him north of 80m due to the Etitike purchase, believing him to have higher goal contributions over two seasons in a higher league.
I don't understand why anyone would buy a Chelsea player with the ridiculously long contracts they're on. It's almost like allowing them to get away with such a thing by taking the player off their hands vs them just being expensive paperweights for them. Surely Jackson ain't getting much game time with their purchases this summer?
Apparently Chelsea value him north of 80m due to the Etitike purchase, believing him to have higher goal contributions over two seasons in a higher league.
I don't understand why anyone would buy a Chelsea player with the ridiculously long contracts they're on. It's almost like allowing them to get away with such a thing by taking the player off their hands vs them just being expensive paperweights for them. Surely Jackson ain't getting much game time with their purchases this summer?
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I'd take him on loan with an option.
That's a whole different thing, but what doesn't make attracting better players any easier is refusing to sell them to clubs that they'd rather go to when the time comes...
I'm afraid Newcastle just aren't a "destination club" and becoming one isn't as easy as having money.
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Liverpool fans aren't in as much of a huff as your star striker is.
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Your British transfer record is still £30m below our asking price, why should we just accept less just because it’s Liverpool and less than what we want(slap £150m down and it probably gets accepted). Diaz wants to go to Bayern, why haven’t you accepted their offer, even though it’s less than what you want? Salah wanted to go to Saudi 18 months ago and you were offered over £100m for him, why didn’t you accept that?Im more than happy with Ekitike thanks, hell he was one of the 5 transfers I wanted back as far as the 13th May this window
Newcastle fans have been a bit weird about the whole isak situation, acting like we took a giant **** in the middle of St James Park (when's the news on a new stadium gonna break? Asking for a friend
Tell you why, because you’re a bunch of hypocrites, you expect other clubs to pay over the odds for your players, but expect lesser clubs to roll over when you come calling.
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Still won’t be in a Liverpool shirt next season
Worked perfectly fine for Man City and Chelsea?
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Different rules then, allowed them to overpay wages to attract players to then build up to wining things, player purchase mistakes had less of an effect back then, wasting £60m now on a poor purchase can and will cripple us, also we still have a wage ceiling of £160k a week, average players at Manu, Chelsea and Liverpool are on that.
We need to be shopping currently were Brighton are shopping and unearthing some gems, problem is because of Ashley we’re pretty much starting from scratch in almost every department.
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You guys know how negotiations work yeah? Actually judging from you summer window so far it doesn't look like it
The fact you didn't even want to enter any talks and have 'unsettled' the guy as a consequence speaks volumes.No he didnt so we didnt sell/entertain the idea. different as your guy wants to join us
You lot really need to get rid of that giant chip on your shoulder, it isn't healthy for you.
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It’s not a negotiation though is it, we want £150m, pay the £150m and he’s yours, why should we negotiate if we won’t take less and you’re offering less.You guys know how negotiations work yeah? Actually judging from you summer window so far it doesn't look like it
No he didnt so we didnt sell/entertain the idea. different as your guy wants to join us
You lot really need to get rid of that giant chip on your shoulder, it isn't healthy for you.
A scouser talking about a chip on someone’s shoulder, hilarious.
Diaz has been told he Bayern have to meet our asking price, so whilst there's a superficial comparison with Isak, Diaz has said he'd prefer to sign a new deal and stay at Liverpool and the asking price is one that he's okay with and that he's happy to stay at Liverpool and see out his current deal if it's not met so the comparison falls rather flat doesn't it? We've not priced him out of anything he'd rather do.
And Salah signed a new deal
The only way that works for Newcastle is if Isak it's comfortable with with Newcastle telling clubs he'd rather sign for that they have to stump up stupid money for him that he and everyone knows won't happen.
Do you think he's stupid?
Do you think other players that might sign for Newcastle are impressed with this?
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Our problem is that we’re still suffering from stagnation under Ashley. We had literally no stadium sponsorship for a decade, which in his final couple of years made it a million.
Our fair market value is essentially kneecapped because of it - which is why I think the club isn’t taking the first training kit sponsor offered, even though it hurts now.
Our crippled turnover has made it impossible in my mind to keep the likes of Isak. He needs better contract and even if we offer 200k+, the like of Liverpool can afford to stick another 100k on top and that’s that. It’s happened with all the players we’ve missed out on. We have a ceiling to our wages, and no amount of “project” trumps another 100k per week. I mean to a degree, winning doesn’t - you see that when players go to SA / turkey / USA for mega money with prime years to go.
It sucks.
But it’s part of the game, for better or worse. I see us falling into beat with the likes of Brighton, staying on the cusp of things but as we can’t buy final products, will always fall short and become a feeder to those whose commercial deals have no limits due to established pricing.
Our fair market value is essentially kneecapped because of it - which is why I think the club isn’t taking the first training kit sponsor offered, even though it hurts now.
Our crippled turnover has made it impossible in my mind to keep the likes of Isak. He needs better contract and even if we offer 200k+, the like of Liverpool can afford to stick another 100k on top and that’s that. It’s happened with all the players we’ve missed out on. We have a ceiling to our wages, and no amount of “project” trumps another 100k per week. I mean to a degree, winning doesn’t - you see that when players go to SA / turkey / USA for mega money with prime years to go.
It sucks.
But it’s part of the game, for better or worse. I see us falling into beat with the likes of Brighton, staying on the cusp of things but as we can’t buy final products, will always fall short and become a feeder to those whose commercial deals have no limits due to established pricing.