18 to 25 age verified?.

skipper847 said:
I wasnt preprepared to give delivery guy ID for neighbours
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Neither would I, so i wouldn't worry about it, it'll be the delivery guys and neighbours problem

Werewolf said:
They're not taking a picture of it, I've got no issue with it at all, I get mildly more annoyed by being disturbed by the unexpected knock on the door:p
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Bah humbug! I'd be annoyed and not give them any ID :D

We did have one delivery guy once try to tell us it was illegal to not take a parcel in :cry:

Deleted member 280263 said:
But why does a courier care, that isn't their job? Anyone can answer a door/accept goods for whoever lives there?
Is this something new and specific to Amazon, I'm guessing?
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The law might work like it does for in person sales. That said I have a feeling the business and the cashier can face penalties in a retail environment, so maybe the driver might be liable too?
 
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loftie said:
Neither would I, so i wouldn't worry about it, it'll be the delivery guys and neighbours problem


Bah humbug! I'd be annoyed and not give them any ID :D

We did have one delivery guy once try to tell us it was illegal to not take a parcel in :cry:
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I thought i was just been helpful so they didnt have to come back again but i guess they like wasting fuel etc. lol
 
t2na said:
It's become much more common in the last few years. In the industry I work in especially, particularly with cooking knives/sharps. A lot of our items (even things like Oyster knives) now have to fall under the same regulations.

There are some couriers we cannot trust to use because they don't follow through on the age check when the item is delivered - but someone like Fedex etc. are worth the additional cost as a supplier because their check rate was 100% during the sample test we ran.

Evri had an awful run - once delivering a knife block with 9 knives to one of my colleagues 11 year old daughter who answered the door without as much as asking how old she was. This is even with us paying Evri for the age check service and the package have a giant 'AGE VERIFY 18-25' sticker on the top and side of the box.
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Rroff said:
The recent changes with knife laws have propelled a lot of it, and it is the delivery driver's job - in some cases they even have to enter details to prove they've verified it now, others will be randomly tested on it. Packages should be made up with an age verification sticker now and depending on courier, etc. it should show on their manifest though some consignments do slip through.

Mostly though they won't even do more than glance at your driving license or whatever, assuming you have at least one form of ID it isn't a big issue really.

EDIT: Also even if you look old enough the policy for a lot of places now is to lean towards checking as they don't want to fall foul of any auditing, etc. though generally if you are obviously old enough it shouldn't be an issue.
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I personally don't use Amazon, so have never had this happen.
Never had this with Ebay, but that is like the Wild West, I guess :P
 
Ohhhhhh hang on a minute, this is the chap who hides in his house because children walk the streets.

It's all starting to make sense now :D
 
t2na said:
Evri had an awful run - once delivering a knife block with 9 knives to one of my colleagues 11 year old daughter who answered the door without as much as asking how old she was. This is even with us paying Evri for the age check service and the package have a giant 'AGE VERIFY 18-25' sticker on the top and side of the box.
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Seriously? Wow...
 
My wife had to verify her age with RM for a delivery a couple of days ago. He couldn't scan the label until it was entered. Had she bought a zombie knife to end me the next time I made her laugh while drinking tea? Nope, it was some dressings for my son from the hospital !?.
 
dcsarge said:
My wife had to verify her age with RM for a delivery a couple of days ago. He couldn't scan the label until it was entered. Had she bought a zombie knife to end me the next time I made her laugh while drinking tea? Nope, it was some dressings for my son from the hospital !?.
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If sent by the hospital it's likely to be down to medical policy rather than general laws.

I suspect they may just mark everything to be age verified to ensure it reaches an adult, as opposed to relying on whoever is packing it to check if anything in it needs to be age verified (such as medications). It's the sort of situation where if they didn't and some child got hold of something because it was handed to them at the door there would be a huge fuss and possibly legal issues especially if the child got hurt, so everything gets sent the same way if it's from the pharmacy or whatever.
 
Werewolf said:
If sent by the hospital it's likely to be down to medical policy rather than general laws.
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That's what you would think but the same department send us regular boxes of cpap filters and other bits for him, never happened before. Odd choice, given relative values.
 
An excuse to not take in neighbours packages? Bliss!

I've always thought the "Challenge 25" stuff in supermarkets is nonsense. You could be 28 yrs, one cashier could think you look 24 so you're refused an 18+ product... make it make sense!
 
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Deleted member 280263 said:
But why does a courier care, that isn't their job? Anyone can answer a door/accept goods for whoever lives there?
Is this something new and specific to Amazon, I'm guessing?
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IIRC it's been stepped up due to the increase in the number of youths carrying knives out in public. It was demonstrated how easy it was for someone of any age to buy a knife on Amazon and have it delivered.

As to it not being their job, it's really not that much different to someone working on a self-checkout till in a supermarket and someone wanting to purchase alcohol. Whomever is handing the product to the customer has a duty to ensure it's age appropriate.
 
Semple said:
IIRC it's been stepped up due to the increase in the number of youths carrying knives out in public. It was demonstrated how easy it was for someone of any age to buy a knife on Amazon and have it delivered.

As to it not being their job, it's really not that much different to someone working on a self-checkout till in a supermarket and someone wanting to purchase alcohol. Whomever is handing the product to the customer has a duty to ensure it's age appropriate.
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Crazy, I didn't even know they sold booze and knives on there :P As I say I don't use Amazon.

Yeah but the difference there is, at a shop, the person works for the company selling the item, and it's under the same roof, but RM are delivering for a third party, and aren't selling the products.

With Amazon, that makes total sense, as it's like the supermarket example.

So it was the RM bit surprised me, however I totally get why this is now a thing and agree with it :)
 
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Sorry to say I think it's more likely you look like a wrong 'un OP and they don't want to deal with the paperwork of a 'missing' delivery.


:p
 
skipper847 said:
Hi I look way younger then i am but im actually 45 and 2 deliveries have refused to give me neighbours package as they say i dont even look over 18 on a age verified package. I always accepted neighbours package and put it next to door in apartment with no issues. If i looked over 18 would the delivery driver just give me the package or still refuse?. Oh and deliveries where from royal male and amazon so cant be that age restricted either.

I just hate looking so young it does have it annoying sides to it. Like below are in there early 20 and im old enough to be the dad but as they look there age would they just give it?.

Royal Mail* :P
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Consider yourself lucky. When I asked the Amazon man "aren't you going to ask for age verification" he burst out laughing.
 
This entire "verification" is yet another government disaster in the making. The real problem is that it's just not possible to identify people remotely. Just ask my bank about that.

We are in desperate need of some way of identifying people online, but also a way of age verifying people without giving out any information other than their age. I mean the credit card verification is doomed to fail.

And whatever system we come up with, needs to be kid proof, which means it needs to be REALLY good.
 
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