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Show me the option to select just seatbelt colour change... you cant, its part of a pack.
Let's talk about interiors
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Agree with this. It's the same reason why I prefer iDrive 7 over iDrive 8.
You clearly don't know Porsche!
e.g. until very recent heated front seats on a £160k Porsche Turbo was an option. These days most tech is still optional - radar cruise, which was standard on a 2014 £20k VW Golf and most cheap Toyota's
In terms of car pricing £50k is pretty much entry level brand, SUV medium size family car. You can pay £53k for a petrol Skoda Kodiak ! (plus options)
Pricing - Most people are stuck in 2005 still, Inflation happened !-> e.g. £28k in 2005 is now worth the same as £50k in 2025
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*Ignore this - quoted the wrong person*
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In what world? An "entry" Ford Focus is £29k.
Edit: glossed over the SUV bit. A Kuga starts at £32k.
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Citing the list price of a Kodiaq vRS 7 Seater as 'entry level medium SUV' is just utterly LOL
The actual 'entry level brand medium SUV' from VAG would be the Seat Ateca, which starts at £30k give or take, with the top trim FR Black Edition starting at £38k for the auto.
The actual 'entry level brand medium SUV' from VAG would be the Seat Ateca, which starts at £30k give or take, with the top trim FR Black Edition starting at £38k for the auto.
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My point about the VRS was a separate point to the medium sized SUV reference. Just highlighting cars cost more than they did 20 years ago
Also the Volvo equivalent to Skoda Kodiak is over £100k..The Kia equivalent £70k... and this VRS only has 260bhp, which in 2025 is entry level VW ID4 performance (Which are also about £50k RRP)
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It is crazy though because the vast majority of people lap it up because it makes their sal sac £### a month for a £##k car look like a "no brainer".
I avoid debt and anything on the drip like the plague, thankfully car prices are irrelevant to me while I have a company car but I often wonder what I would buy myself if I was to change jobs. Something well looked after, Japanese brand and about 8 years old seems to be the answer from a quick AT search :/
That is taking my last car purchase price (£6.5k in 2007) and adjusting up for inflation to todays equivalent (about £11k). Last time round I got a 4 year old mint Octavia vRS with 24k on the clock
Edit - getting back to the original topic for a second... at least there is no chance of touch screen overload on an 8 year old car
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Yep, my bad, I was referring to the vehicles in the next size up, which generally start around £40k for base, and then around £50k for mid spec models.
I wonder how much car manufacturers spend on the "infotainment" system software, because they are all pretty poor from a GUI and functionality point of view. None are as useful as just a phone in a phone holder and they rarely get updates (sometimes never, sometimes it's not even free), or aren't supported for long.
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Well thats what car play is for...
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Thats a bit of a stretch, the phone in a holder wont change the seat heating or massage setting or the full AR HUD capability, or 3D surround , or trailer bulb test sequence, or manage Plug & charge or the remote start / climate settings.
Just tell me you havent driven a modern car without telling me...
Then you are basically using a phone. But now it's in a place which is harder to reach. On a less responsive screen.
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Those are basic car functions which should be physical buttons anyway. They just made everything awkward by putting it on a screen.
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You have a button that displays the 3D surround view? Now that is impressive.
If only you could find your mute button...
If only you could find your mute button...
The middle panel in my iX has buttons, including a 3D surround view button, and they all work very well. The only thing I would change is swap the 'Tel' button for a 'Climate' button. Climate is used much more often and I don't need to access my phone book from here. You can also feel these as the icons/text are raised above the panels
I like the way new car interior's are going. I personally don't miss the dials and buttons of old.
BMW have previewed the interior for the new iX3 launching later this year, which has a pano screen spanning across the area the below windscreen, which I think looks good.
Also, HUD's are getting larger and able to show more information, which may ultimately replace the need for screens into the future.
I like the way new car interior's are going. I personally don't miss the dials and buttons of old.
BMW have previewed the interior for the new iX3 launching later this year, which has a pano screen spanning across the area the below windscreen, which I think looks good.
Also, HUD's are getting larger and able to show more information, which may ultimately replace the need for screens into the future.
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^ absolutely no way! That looks hideous.
Well any manufacturer won't be getting any money from me if they continue down this god awful road.
How the frick are you supposed to quickly and easily press the + button for the temperature on that screen?! Now you might be able to rest your hand on the bit below the screen for some support, so fair enough, but about any icon in the middle or top of the screen?!
I just don't get it.
(well I do, they do it because it's cheaper and easier to make)
Well any manufacturer won't be getting any money from me if they continue down this god awful road.
How the frick are you supposed to quickly and easily press the + button for the temperature on that screen?! Now you might be able to rest your hand on the bit below the screen for some support, so fair enough, but about any icon in the middle or top of the screen?!
I just don't get it.
(well I do, they do it because it's cheaper and easier to make)
My Nan used to have some crystal coasters just like that, similar veneer on her coffee table too.