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I wonder will the 2nd season jitters hit Amad this year. Utd have a recent habit of getting a really great 1st season out of a new youngster, and then something happens.
Garnacho....was feared down the wing scored some really important goals...and then went completely off the boil and his attitude changed. And now not wanted/ doesn't want to be there.
Mainoo... really shone in his pre-season, got injured in that pre-season.. but when he came back he was a revelation that year, both for Utd and England. Incredible midfield control and finding tight passes. The following year....a bit Meh. There was even some talk that he might have walked this summer.
I hope Amad continues to fly, but now I hear he might be used more defensively ??
Oh, and we really need a new keeper, Onana is a liability.
Garnacho....was feared down the wing scored some really important goals...and then went completely off the boil and his attitude changed. And now not wanted/ doesn't want to be there.
Mainoo... really shone in his pre-season, got injured in that pre-season.. but when he came back he was a revelation that year, both for Utd and England. Incredible midfield control and finding tight passes. The following year....a bit Meh. There was even some talk that he might have walked this summer.
I hope Amad continues to fly, but now I hear he might be used more defensively ??
Oh, and we really need a new keeper, Onana is a liability.
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The problem with Amad this season is where he ends up playing, if Mbeumo plays that right hand side behind the CF then he'll be RWB predominantly I would have thought. Although his heatspot for last season has him covering quite a lot in our defensive third.
It's a really good question around Amad because if you go by the probable XI Amorim would favour then Amad is more than likely to be the Wing Back and Mbeuemo the 10 or right side inside fowarward
Controversial view but I genuinely believe the squad underperformed last year and it's not a '15th' Squad. To your point Onana is a liability. Our issue last season was we was crap in both boxes. With Cuhna and Mbeumo then you would expect us to not only create more chances but also score more chances made.
Back to Amad, He's in a pretty good position, in that he can deputise for Mbeumo in an attacking sense. If he can add some defensive discipline to his game playing RWB then no bad thing at all. I guess that's one of the issues Fan's have with Garnacho, all the skill in the world, developing but infuriating without the ball.
Other controversial view, with a shrews buy at Centre Forward then I expect Hojlund to improve as the back up, rotation striker, which is exactly what he should have been bought for.(coming from a low bar based on last season I know)
Well, someone decided, I don't buy that it was all EtH's fault.
We have options in an attacking sense and a lot of them. This allows Amorim to do a few things
1. Squad depth to cover injuries. Shipping out Antony, Sancho, Rashford left us short. Add in Amad's injury, Mason "ghost" Mount and we were well short.
2. In game options - The mix of players allows Amorim to pivot in game and try different things whilst keeping the general philosophy. Zirkzee or Mbeumo as alternatives to Hojlund. Bruno to sit back in midfield and allow another 10 on the pitch.
3. Players that aren't going to be petulant children when they get asked to play out of their favourite position.
Of course it won't be all perfect but it looks full of options regardless of whether they sign another striker. Personally would prefer more cover in central midfield.
1. Squad depth to cover injuries. Shipping out Antony, Sancho, Rashford left us short. Add in Amad's injury, Mason "ghost" Mount and we were well short.
2. In game options - The mix of players allows Amorim to pivot in game and try different things whilst keeping the general philosophy. Zirkzee or Mbeumo as alternatives to Hojlund. Bruno to sit back in midfield and allow another 10 on the pitch.
3. Players that aren't going to be petulant children when they get asked to play out of their favourite position.
Of course it won't be all perfect but it looks full of options regardless of whether they sign another striker. Personally would prefer more cover in central midfield.
Do you consider Mbeumo and Cunha to be better players than Garnacho and Antony?
We are buying better players than we currently have, and they are PL tested.
That is a major positive. I watched pretty much all of our games last season and the biggest single issue was the lack of a goal threat. That has hopefully been remedied somewhat and we’re still after a striker too.
Goalkeeper is another obvious problem area.
I’m not expecting miracles, far from it, but we should have a bit of trust in Amorim and the new players and see how things look in a couple of months. If we look hopeless then I’ll be the first to say so!
The first few games of the new season are so critical, if things go wrong then it will all very easily spiral out of control and Amorim won’t be around for long.
That is a major positive. I watched pretty much all of our games last season and the biggest single issue was the lack of a goal threat. That has hopefully been remedied somewhat and we’re still after a striker too.
Goalkeeper is another obvious problem area.
I’m not expecting miracles, far from it, but we should have a bit of trust in Amorim and the new players and see how things look in a couple of months. If we look hopeless then I’ll be the first to say so!
The first few games of the new season are so critical, if things go wrong then it will all very easily spiral out of control and Amorim won’t be around for long.
Yeah but surely it's all about how well the players around them play too. They're joining a disjointed team/club.
There were a couple of times when Rasmus just wasn't on their wave length in the last march and nothing suggests he will ever be there, Zrikzee isn't a proper striker either. Sure, they need time to build the relationships etc and it's still only pre-season but do they get time at this club, is the infamous pressure a curse. Perhaps Cunha will play up top, that's probably the best bet? That way Burno and Bueno can play.
In recent times very few players come here and play better than they did at their previous club, in fact they all regress. Again, I don't want to sound negative but until I see it on the pitch I remain to be convinced that the team is much better than last season. More players are needed.
They're probably doing the best they can with the money they have and the situation they're in but that doesn't mean it's going to be pleasant.
It’s absolutely not going to be pleasant at all. One summer transfer window and preseason ain’t magically fixing the lack of quality or application throughout the team.
But yea, we need to wait and see how the first few games of the season go before getting too downhearted. Keep believing dude
They HAVE to stick with him - even if it's a "dodgy" start to the season....
Booting him say 15-20 games in after a bad start just starts the whole cycle all over again....
Another manager, another payout, another mess etc etc
Like it or not, there has to be some change to our fortunes. You simply cannot sit mid-table or lower 2 seasons in a row at a club like United. You can't say "maybe with another summer things will change". He gets the first season free. He came in mid way through and we had completely the wrong squad for him along with a host of other player related problems.
We will likely spend north of £200m as usual this summer. That comes with expectations. Not huge expectations but expectations.
If we are mid-table at Christmas and playing good football but coming unstuck too often he will be fine. If hes delivering the same stuff he did last season he will be gone and rightly so.
They will not expect miracles but they will expect improvements.
I don't think that we have bought players that are specialists in his system either. I don't think that a new manager would have any complaints about Cunha or Mbuemo. I don't know if I am being cynical but perhaps the reason we haven't been looking too much at the wingbacks is because those are specialist roles. Perhaps those will come once he has proved he is on the right path.
I feel that I am close to making an @adam cool dude type prophecy. Even if its just to give @sigma reason to live another day as a United fan.
Guys - Amorim is the one. He will get it right. Maybe not this season in terms of a title challenge but he will put us on the right track.We have a tough start to the season but I fully expect him to at least get us in the top half
Any defeat at Man United is a crisis and there will be a baying media just waiting to heap the pressure on him, however I reckon he can handle it and that the team will be far improved. Our biggest challenge as fans will be getting used to playing once a week and having to suffer any defeats for a longer period. He has one major advantage over ten Hag - the bloke is likeable and is charismatic.
Guys - Amorim is the one. He will get it right. Maybe not this season in terms of a title challenge but he will put us on the right track.We have a tough start to the season but I fully expect him to at least get us in the top half
Any defeat at Man United is a crisis and there will be a baying media just waiting to heap the pressure on him, however I reckon he can handle it and that the team will be far improved. Our biggest challenge as fans will be getting used to playing once a week and having to suffer any defeats for a longer period. He has one major advantage over ten Hag - the bloke is likeable and is charismatic.
wash your dirty mouth out - doom and gloom is all we want and should expect by nowI feel that I am close to making an @adam cool dude type prophecy. Even if its just to give @sigma reason to live another day as a United fan.
Guys - Amorim is the one. He will get it right. Maybe not this season in terms of a title challenge but he will put us on the right track.We have a tough start to the season but I fully expect him to at least get us in the top half
Any defeat at Man United is a crisis and there will be a baying media just waiting to heap the pressure on him, however I reckon he can handle it and that the team will be far improved. Our biggest challenge as fans will be getting used to playing once a week and having to suffer any defeats for a longer period. He has one major advantage over ten Hag - the bloke is likeable and is charismatic.
- that said, i'm surprisingly looking forward to the start of the season for a change. i could well be suicidal/homicidal within the first 2 or 3 weeks but for now, yea i've a bit of quiet optimism - not that we'll win the league or any nonsense like that. but if we look to be making positive strides in terms of team play and performance, not skirting just above the relegation places but pushing for top 6 i reckon i'd be quite happy.hell, not looking dog***** almost every game would be a good start.
I hope you're right.I feel that I am close to making an @adam cool dude type prophecy. Even if its just to give @sigma reason to live another day as a United fan.
Guys - Amorim is the one. He will get it right. Maybe not this season in terms of a title challenge but he will put us on the right track.We have a tough start to the season but I fully expect him to at least get us in the top half
Any defeat at Man United is a crisis and there will be a baying media just waiting to heap the pressure on him, however I reckon he can handle it and that the team will be far improved. Our biggest challenge as fans will be getting used to playing once a week and having to suffer any defeats for a longer period. He has one major advantage over ten Hag - the bloke is likeable and is charismatic.
What bugs is me is that none of the top teams use his formation in the league. I appreciate there are multiple ways to do things and perhaps modern tactics are changing to be more direct etc but that doesn't sit right with me, the fact that none of the teams we are trying to match are doing it the way we think is going to deliver the league - that's the target, after all.
I think with new players and probably still a lack of confidence (I still maintain it's not going to be a nice place to work) I expect a rocky start and hopefully some stability as things bed in. Especially if we have more new additions. With so many players coming back from injury it will feel like a new team.
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As fez said, it depends how bad it is, if it's losing but playing well then that's fine (to some degree).
I still maintain that if it goes sour you can't put it ALL on Amorim if they only provide the two players we've bought to date.
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'it's the hope that kills you'