The Best of British Locomotive Power

I always preferred the non streamlined Bullieds, gorgeous looking loco's. Still, being a Cornishman I have a soft spot for the WR diesel hydraulics, especially the "Westerns" with their Maybach magic!! Modern trains have nothing on them plus they are so damn uncomfortable!!

At the begining of the month I went home to Penzance, Cornwall for my dads birthday, just over 720 miles by car but this time I decided to go by train which turned out to be a big mistake. The price was excellent £98 down and £99 back up when using my veterans railcard, I couldn't have done it cheaper by car. It was 16 hours each way though which is over 4 hours longer than if I drove. Anyway, on 7th I boarded my first train from Elgin to Inverness, a Scotrail class 158 DMU which wasn't too bad. At Inverness I boarded the Highland Chieftain, a LNER Azuma (class 800/801 IET) to London Kings Cross. My backside was numb within ten minutes of leaving Inverness and I had almost 8 hours on this train. The only good thing I have to say about this train was the at seat catering service. There is a bar code on the back of the seat in front of you and you scan it which opens the menu on your phone. You order what you want, pay for it and it's delivered to your seat. I ordered a cup of Earl Grey tea and a slice of Dundee cake for £3.50 which I thought was very fair for on train catering. When it turned up my cup of tea was one of the best brands, Taylors of Harrogate and the Dundee Cake was fresh and moist. I was glad to get off that train. I see the underground is just as crowded with impatient people as ever!! Across London to Paddington for my last train, another class 800 IET!! This was a GWR service although there was nothing great about it. The train was filthy externally with dirty seats and carpets plus no aircon working which was very bad on a hot day like that day was. By the time I arrived at Penzance at 22.25 I was in agony and I had it all to do again in a few days.

Back up on 11th July it was more of the same except every train was late. First they wouldn't let anyone on the train at Penzance because they couldn't get the two five car units to "talk" to each other so we left five minutes late. By the time we arrived at Paddington we were 20 minutes late (this was to become a common theme for the rest of the day) although I had plenty of time to get to my next train at Kings Cross which would take me to Edinburgh. Another LNER Azuma which was 22 minutes late by Peterborough and still a long way to go. At Newcastle we had a driver change and left for the non stop run to Edinburgh 23 minutes late. The driver drove the nuts off that train and actually made up 10 minutes so we arrived at Edinburgh 13 minutes late. I only had five minutes to catch my next train which was leaving from platform 19 so I had to leg it and just made it. This was a Scotrail 3 car class 170 which replaced a failed 4 car HST so people were crammed in like sardines and of course yet again no aircon. The saving grace was that it had the most comfortable seats of the trip. This got to Aberdeen 20 minutes late meaning I was going to miss my next train. Worrying about my next tickets validity they announced that they were holding the next train for passengers on ours to be able to catch it. Thank god for that!! So onto my last train, a pair of Scotrail class 158's and that driver also gave it welly trying to make up the lost time. By the time I got off at Elgin the brakes were stinking and you could clearly smell them in the interior of the train.

I won't ever be doing that again. The price was excellent but the seats were so painfully uncomfortable, there is absolutely no give in the seats of the IET's and when it becomes time to refurbish them I hope they actually think of the passengers and give them some comfort. They could learn a lot by going to a preserved railway and travelling in a MK1 or MK2a/b/c coach which were the height of standard class comfort on the railways. I can only assume that as the IET's are Japanese designed and built (Hitatchi) that they were thinking of Japanese people who tend to be smaller than us. Whatever they were thinking the seats are not fit for purpose although there was loads of legroom even for me (6'2" with long legs). The seat pads that you sit on are barely a step up from the wooden seats of third class from long ago.

Anyone lucky enough to be going to The Greatest Gathering at Derby celebrating 200 years of the modern railway?
 
I always preferred the non streamlined Bullieds, gorgeous looking loco's. Still, being a Cornishman I have a soft spot for the WR diesel hydraulics, especially the "Westerns" with their Maybach magic!! Modern trains have nothing on them plus they are so damn uncomfortable!!

At the begining of the month I went home to Penzance, Cornwall for my dads birthday, just over 720 miles by car but this time I decided to go by train which turned out to be a big mistake. The price was excellent £98 down and £99 back up when using my veterans railcard, I couldn't have done it cheaper by car. It was 16 hours each way though which is over 4 hours longer than if I drove. Anyway, on 7th I boarded my first train from Elgin to Inverness, a Scotrail class 158 DMU which wasn't too bad. At Inverness I boarded the Highland Chieftain, a LNER Azuma (class 800/801 IET) to London Kings Cross. My backside was numb within ten minutes of leaving Inverness and I had almost 8 hours on this train. The only good thing I have to say about this train was the at seat catering service. There is a bar code on the back of the seat in front of you and you scan it which opens the menu on your phone. You order what you want, pay for it and it's delivered to your seat. I ordered a cup of Earl Grey tea and a slice of Dundee cake for £3.50 which I thought was very fair for on train catering. When it turned up my cup of tea was one of the best brands, Taylors of Harrogate and the Dundee Cake was fresh and moist. I was glad to get off that train. I see the underground is just as crowded with impatient people as ever!! Across London to Paddington for my last train, another class 800 IET!! This was a GWR service although there was nothing great about it. The train was filthy externally with dirty seats and carpets plus no aircon working which was very bad on a hot day like that day was. By the time I arrived at Penzance at 22.25 I was in agony and I had it all to do again in a few days.

Back up on 11th July it was more of the same except every train was late. First they wouldn't let anyone on the train at Penzance because they couldn't get the two five car units to "talk" to each other so we left five minutes late. By the time we arrived at Paddington we were 20 minutes late (this was to become a common theme for the rest of the day) although I had plenty of time to get to my next train at Kings Cross which would take me to Edinburgh. Another LNER Azuma which was 22 minutes late by Peterborough and still a long way to go. At Newcastle we had a driver change and left for the non stop run to Edinburgh 23 minutes late. The driver drove the nuts off that train and actually made up 10 minutes so we arrived at Edinburgh 13 minutes late. I only had five minutes to catch my next train which was leaving from platform 19 so I had to leg it and just made it. This was a Scotrail 3 car class 170 which replaced a failed 4 car HST so people were crammed in like sardines and of course yet again no aircon. The saving grace was that it had the most comfortable seats of the trip. This got to Aberdeen 20 minutes late meaning I was going to miss my next train. Worrying about my next tickets validity they announced that they were holding the next train for passengers on ours to be able to catch it. Thank god for that!! So onto my last train, a pair of Scotrail class 158's and that driver also gave it welly trying to make up the lost time. By the time I got off at Elgin the brakes were stinking and you could clearly smell them in the interior of the train.

I won't ever be doing that again. The price was excellent but the seats were so painfully uncomfortable, there is absolutely no give in the seats of the IET's and when it becomes time to refurbish them I hope they actually think of the passengers and give them some comfort. They could learn a lot by going to a preserved railway and travelling in a MK1 or MK2a/b/c coach which were the height of standard class comfort on the railways. I can only assume that as the IET's are Japanese designed and built (Hitatchi) that they were thinking of Japanese people who tend to be smaller than us. Whatever they were thinking the seats are not fit for purpose although there was loads of legroom even for me (6'2" with long legs). The seat pads that you sit on are barely a step up from the wooden seats of third class from long ago.

Anyone lucky enough to be going to The Greatest Gathering at Derby celebrating 200 years of the modern railway?

I remember the days of my Dad putting the car on the train at Inverness so we could drive it around on holiday down south - MotorRail was an amazing idea. They still do the sleeper though - I got it down from Aberdeen to London when I joined the RAF, but these days it’s so much more convenient (and cheaper) to just fly from one end of the country to the other!
 
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The Napier Deltic engine is a British opposed-piston valveless, supercharged uniflow scavenged, two-stroke diesel engine used in marine and locomotive applications, designed and produced by D. Napier & Son. Unusually, the cylinders were disposed in a three-bank triangle, with a crankshaft at each corner of the triangle.
 
I always loved the Class 43s as a kid. I remember first seeing them in the late 1970s and thinking that they looked like something from the future. The utterly deafening scream they made when they left the station was unforgettable.


However, my favourite loco has to be the Class 55 aka the Deltic. The deep bass sound it made on full chat was awesome.

 
Would have loved to have seen that in action. It would have been other worldly. Even now it looks so futuristic.

I did get to see it go past our train when I was young. My brother and I were sticking our head out of the door window watching the countryside go by and it was on the opposite track. I can't remember if we were travelling down from Scotland for a holiday or going home afterwards but it was an exciting sight for two young lads.

@Diddums I think a lot of women enjoy the imagery of a long train going into a tunnel.
 
When looking for the heavy stuff, look no further than countries with a large mining industry, like Saffrica.

Most of our steam locos were built by the North British Locomotive Company, like the Class 25:

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This brother could pull all the carriages and post wagons ... No ***** given. 70+mph....


Gresley LNER A3 and we all know what happened when we get A4... Boom duck city land speed records 125mph ez
 
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I always preferred the non streamlined Bullieds, gorgeous looking loco's. Still, being a Cornishman I have a soft spot for the WR diesel hydraulics, especially the "Westerns" with their Maybach magic!! Modern trains have nothing on them plus they are so damn uncomfortable!!

At the begining of the month I went home to Penzance, Cornwall for my dads birthday, just over 720 miles by car but this time I decided to go by train which turned out to be a big mistake. The price was excellent £98 down and £99 back up when using my veterans railcard, I couldn't have done it cheaper by car. It was 16 hours each way though which is over 4 hours longer than if I drove. Anyway, on 7th I boarded my first train from Elgin to Inverness, a Scotrail class 158 DMU which wasn't too bad. At Inverness I boarded the Highland Chieftain, a LNER Azuma (class 800/801 IET) to London Kings Cross. My backside was numb within ten minutes of leaving Inverness and I had almost 8 hours on this train. The only good thing I have to say about this train was the at seat catering service. There is a bar code on the back of the seat in front of you and you scan it which opens the menu on your phone. You order what you want, pay for it and it's delivered to your seat. I ordered a cup of Earl Grey tea and a slice of Dundee cake for £3.50 which I thought was very fair for on train catering. When it turned up my cup of tea was one of the best brands, Taylors of Harrogate and the Dundee Cake was fresh and moist. I was glad to get off that train. I see the underground is just as crowded with impatient people as ever!! Across London to Paddington for my last train, another class 800 IET!! This was a GWR service although there was nothing great about it. The train was filthy externally with dirty seats and carpets plus no aircon working which was very bad on a hot day like that day was. By the time I arrived at Penzance at 22.25 I was in agony and I had it all to do again in a few days.

Back up on 11th July it was more of the same except every train was late. First they wouldn't let anyone on the train at Penzance because they couldn't get the two five car units to "talk" to each other so we left five minutes late. By the time we arrived at Paddington we were 20 minutes late (this was to become a common theme for the rest of the day) although I had plenty of time to get to my next train at Kings Cross which would take me to Edinburgh. Another LNER Azuma which was 22 minutes late by Peterborough and still a long way to go. At Newcastle we had a driver change and left for the non stop run to Edinburgh 23 minutes late. The driver drove the nuts off that train and actually made up 10 minutes so we arrived at Edinburgh 13 minutes late. I only had five minutes to catch my next train which was leaving from platform 19 so I had to leg it and just made it. This was a Scotrail 3 car class 170 which replaced a failed 4 car HST so people were crammed in like sardines and of course yet again no aircon. The saving grace was that it had the most comfortable seats of the trip. This got to Aberdeen 20 minutes late meaning I was going to miss my next train. Worrying about my next tickets validity they announced that they were holding the next train for passengers on ours to be able to catch it. Thank god for that!! So onto my last train, a pair of Scotrail class 158's and that driver also gave it welly trying to make up the lost time. By the time I got off at Elgin the brakes were stinking and you could clearly smell them in the interior of the train.

I won't ever be doing that again. The price was excellent but the seats were so painfully uncomfortable, there is absolutely no give in the seats of the IET's and when it becomes time to refurbish them I hope they actually think of the passengers and give them some comfort. They could learn a lot by going to a preserved railway and travelling in a MK1 or MK2a/b/c coach which were the height of standard class comfort on the railways. I can only assume that as the IET's are Japanese designed and built (Hitatchi) that they were thinking of Japanese people who tend to be smaller than us. Whatever they were thinking the seats are not fit for purpose although there was loads of legroom even for me (6'2" with long legs). The seat pads that you sit on are barely a step up from the wooden seats of third class from long ago.

Anyone lucky enough to be going to The Greatest Gathering at Derby celebrating 200 years of the modern railway?
Is there no longer a direct service from Inverness to Penzance? There always used to be - from Aberdeen at least. I used to take it from Newcastle U Tyne down to Taunton.

Those Hitachi IETs are so uncomfortable- no wonder they’re known as Hirohito’s Revenge around these parts. Enough to put me off travelling by train to be honest- especially when you factor in cancellations, delays etc.

From Castle Cary to London, the better option is to drive down to Templecombe and get the SWT service to Waterloo. It’s a much longer journey but it’s much cheaper and, importantly, the seats have old school comfort.
 
I know what you mean but I think this was the precursor to the 125

That is a 125, that's how they were actually meant to look. But they guy who was designing the livery desided to redesign the whole front end instead.

APT-E was much more interesting, and the 125 was almost a stop gap. BR had has their fingers burned by trying to develope the super advanced APT, and needed to make a new express train with a much more conservative design ASAP. I think some stuff from APT went into the 225 and also the Pendelino and other tilting trains. It's a shame because I think the APT culd have been great, but was clearly put into the service too early.
 
Is there no longer a direct service from Inverness to Penzance? There always used to be - from Aberdeen at least. I used to take it from Newcastle U Tyne down to Taunton.

Those Hitachi IETs are so uncomfortable- no wonder they’re known as Hirohito’s Revenge around these parts. Enough to put me off travelling by train to be honest- especially when you factor in cancellations, delays etc.

From Castle Cary to London, the better option is to drive down to Templecombe and get the SWT service to Waterloo. It’s a much longer journey but it’s much cheaper and, importantly, the seats have old school comfort.
There was a service operated by Cross Country from Aberdeen to Penzance using just a pathetic four car Voyager but it was always overcrowded (I wonder why) so they binned it a couple of months back. Weirdly it was only one way, back up you had to change at Glasgow!! The Voyager's are not much better than the IET's comfort wise anyway. That's the last time I will go on a train, my back and legs can't take it and I can't handle the pain even with strong painkillers and anti-inflammatories.

It looks like if you want to catch a GWR train to Bristol or anywhere north of there from Penzance you have to change at Exeter now. Exeter is as far as the HST's go and the IET's use the Westbury avoiding route to London. On the way down we were calling at places I have never even heard of!! It's pathetic really, back in BR times you could catch a train to almost all of the major cities in the UK without changing trains. Back in my spotting days (late 70's/early 80's) we had trains from Penzance to Leeds, Sheffield, Birmingham, Glasgow, Edinburgh, Manchester, London and a great many more as well as a daily motorail from Penzance to London but privatisation put a end to that and comfy trains.

When looking for the heavy stuff, look no further than countries with a large mining industry, like Saffrica.

Most of our steam locos were built by the North British Locomotive Company, like the Class 25:

SAR_Class_25NC_3410_Sannaspos_-_040799.jpg

Don't forget the mighty Garrat's which were basically a pair of locomotives in one. Their huge size always looked weird on the South African 3'6" gauge.
 
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I always loved the Class 43s as a kid. I remember first seeing them in the late 1970s and thinking that they looked like something from the future. The utterly deafening scream they made when they left the station was unforgettable.


However, my favourite loco has to be the Class 55 aka the Deltic. The deep bass sound it made on full chat was awesome.

I remember getting one of the first HST services out of Bath in 1976 - I remeber the sound being overwhelming but also kind of spine tingling. I believe a lot had their engines replaced at some point & they were definitely quieter than the original Valentas.
 
It looks like if you want to catch a GWR train to Bristol or anywhere north of there from Penzance you have to change at Exeter now. Exeter is as far as the HST's go and the IET's use the Westbury avoiding route to London.
I didn't know there were any HSTs still running in the south west. What is the Westbury avoiding route - Exeter to Waterloo?
 
It splits from the GWR mainline after reading and rejoins at Taunton so it avoids Swindon, Bath, BTM etc and goes via Newbury, Pewsey etc instead. I have been from Penzance to London many times in the past and never went that way before.
 
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