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yoinked a b grade 5060 ti

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It's is a little funny that the mods calls OCUK B Grade a waste of money :cry:
Behave, that's not what I said at all (I said nothing about b grade)

It's a waste of money to upgrade twice, instead of just buying a better card to begin with

Maybe you should have bought a Zotac version brand new for £373 from a different website ;)

Maybe wind in the competitor hinting as well ;)
 
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It's is a little funny that the mods calls OCUK B Grade a waste of money :cry:

Maybe you should have bought a Zotac version brand new for £373 from a different website ;)

Also, 'Wait for the next gen card' is usually terrible advice, putting aside not knowing exactly when they're coming out. If the next release is really good, it's a crazy scramble to get one and you could miss out. If the next release is crap, people rush to buy existing stock, so prices rise overall and you'll miss out and waste your time.

You're intentionally missing a bit of context here surely?

The OP (or his son) upgraded from a 4060 to a 5060, and is apparently seeing massive gains due to (what is likely) MFG, which is more often than not a bit poo, while paying more for a B-Grade item with a limited six months warranty than he would have for a very similarly performing 9060XT brand new.

To add, I don't believe @Armageus even mentioned the combined prices adding up to a 5070ti/9070XT unless I missed something? I absolutely did, I stand by the statement and I was absolutely correct, the total expenditure would have bought a 9070XT.

Furthermore, there haven't been major stock issues for releases for a couple of years now, and there's been a healthy amount of either MSRP or close to options on launch day for most launches, prices do tend to rise after initial stock clears but the last time we saw a major launch it took a few days before the lower priced stock ran out.
 
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it's not my money!
all I did was front the money for my son who is waiting for his wage in 3 days time,
So teach him financial sense and don't front him money? Poor case if he can't wait 3 days

as I explained in my previous reply to you that you obviously have not taken the time toreadroperly, he needed to upgrade togo 16gb to play his favourite game, because it has just stopped working because not enough vram
Fairly sure it didn't just stop working - aside from a couple of edge cases then almost all games work fine, if somewhat slowly with 8gb. Turning off ray tracing would no doubt be a start.

are you just trolling or what man? poor show from a mod.
Not trolling, just trying to point out one bad decision after another

So what if I'm going to get him a 5070ti for his november birthday? that's my money, and I can do that if I like,
So why not put your birthday money towards whatever he had and get an even better card?
 
So teach him financial sense and don't front him money? Poor case if he can't wait 3 days


Fairly sure it didn't just stop working - aside from a couple of edge cases then almost all games work fine, if somewhat slowly with 8gb. Turning off ray tracing would no doubt be a start.

I hate to interject here and do not mean to pile on, but I spend a lot of time in the PC tech sections of the forum, including the hardware advice etc.

I don't think I've ever seen a post by the OP in there? Given the nature of this forum asking for advice would go a long, long way to better decisions. I'm very confident when it comes to current PC technology for various uses, but especially gaming related and that is not my trying to brag, I just have an interest and have a lot of time reading up and building/upgrading for friends and family.

Yet even then I have asked for advice at times, I don't know everything and there are absolutely weak points in my knowledge. I built a 4K rig for a family member not so long ago for his 50th as he can't manage building anymore himself and I still asked for opinions and advice before pulling the trigger on anything given the cost and fact I really wanted to get it right for the occasion, plus I do scrimp a tad when building for myself.
 
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You're intentionally missing a bit of context here surely?

The OP (or his son) upgraded from a 4060 to a 5060, and is apparently seeing massive gains due to (what is likely) MFG, which is more often than not a bit poo, while paying more for a B-Grade item with a limited six months warranty than he would have for a very similarly performing 9060XT brand new.

To add, I don't believe @Armageus even mentioned the combined prices adding up to a 5070ti/9070XT unless I missed something? I absolutely did, I stand by the statement and I was absolutely correct, the total expenditure would have bought a 9070XT.

Furthermore, there haven't been major stock issues for releases for a couple of years now, and there's been a healthy amount of either MSRP or close to options on launch day for most launches, prices do tend to rise after initial stock clears but the last time we saw a major launch it took a few days before the lower priced stock ran out.

It's a 5060 Ti 16Gb, not a 5060. It's more than 40% faster than a 4060 with double the VRAM. Hardly a small upgrade.

It's also a gift for his son, believing OCUK B Grade to be a good price (which everyone has ridiculed, btw) he saved his son £50. Rather than assume the OP is a moron, why not assume that he wanted it to be surprise and do something nice? 1) Selling the 4060 first might ruin the surprise, also 2) why are we assuming they don't intend to sell the 4060 and use the money for something else? maybe they don't want to spend £650 on a GPU regardless of where the money comes from?

"Absolutely correct"? 2nd value of a 4060 right now is approx £180-£190, after fees/postage let's say £170. £170 + £350 = £520 That's not enough for a 2nd hand 9070XT, let alone a new one :rolleyes:
 
So teach him financial sense and don't front him money? Poor case if he can't wait 3 days
he could have waited 3 days, I just saw the B grade for £50 off what he would have been spending after those 3 days and jumped on it before it getting bought by someone else, or is saving £50 poor "financial sense", what planet are you on? grow up, as explained he got the 4060 when he needed a tide over gpu and the 5060ti to carry on playing his favourite game, all for a total of £600, wow, what a financial knob he has been! if only I had taught him to hold onto money, waiting for an unspecified launch date /price series 5 gpu, instead of making his PC work, instead of buying a cheap, around black friday deal gpu, that has almost lasted him a year, who wants a working PC right? only you nerds!
Maybe I should tell him to put all his money into a savings account, tell him to close his eyes real tight and wish it turns him into a millionaire after one week of interest on his gpu money? get real man.
 
It's a waste of money to upgrade twice, instead of just buying a better card to begin with
how do you do that if you don't have the cash for a big upgrade, and the card is not even released yet?
come on, all you can do is work with what you have, this isn't make believe world
 
It’s not poor financial sense but it’s not great either. Ultimately irrespective of what it’s replacing t’s not the great deal you think it is.
that's a load of old balls, and you know it is, I never suggested that it was a great deal, he was going to spend £400 on a 5060ti, but I saved him £50, or are you in the, he should have got a 9060 camp even though it is the worse gaming card? lol
 
It's a 5060 Ti 16Gb, not a 5060. It's more than 40% faster than a 4060 with double the VRAM. Hardly a small upgrade.

It's also a gift for his son, believing OCUK B Grade to be a good price (which everyone has ridiculed, btw) he saved his son £50. Rather than assume the OP is a moron, why not assume that he wanted it to be surprise and do something nice? 1) Selling the 4060 first might ruin the surprise, also 2) why are we assuming they don't intend to sell the 4060 and use the money for something else? maybe they don't want to spend £650 on a GPU regardless of where the money comes from?

"Absolutely correct"? 2nd value of a 4060 right now is approx £180-£190, after fees/postage let's say £170. £170 + £350 = £520 That's not enough for a 2nd hand 9070XT, let alone a new one :rolleyes:

You're either the son or the OP at this point, but only the mods can possibly know.

Trying to be kind and helpful is apparently a sin for you, but when it comes to providing knowledge to people in tech I'm going to be blunt:

He made poor choices and thought people would celebrate the fact, you know how internet search engines work? Someone might come across this and make the same or worse decisions based on the information and frankly they're poor.

The fact his 4060 was a 8gb card (was it?) is irrelevant, you're spending a small fortune making incremental updates within tiny periods of time.
 
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that's a load of old balls, and you know it is, I never suggested that it was a great deal, he was going to spend £400 on a 5060ti, but I saved him £50, or are you in the, he should have got a 9060 camp even though it is the worse gaming card? lol
Apologies, but your post read to me like your were posting to highlight the great deal you nabbed. If that wasn’t the intention then I’ve misread it.

Regarding financial sense - if on a budget, like most people, and with a view to a larger upgrade in the not too distant future the perf difference between the 9060xt and 5060ti is so minimal that the cost saving would have been more beneficial - by that I mean buy a cheaper card with minimal perf loss and put the money saved aside towards the larger planned upgrade which can happen quicker with the cash injection from the saving.

What game is it he can’t play anymore, just curiousity for myself as I’m still running an ancient vega64 8gb and while some games I play need settings turned right down I can still play most at reasonable frames without looking completely garbage (albeit on a lesser monitor than your lads running)
 
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What game is it he can’t play anymore,
marvel rivals, literally would not even load the title screen any more, stating not enough Vram, nothing to do with settings try it if you like and see, it's free to play, this is at 1440p, you might have better luck at 1080p
 
marvel rivals, literally would not even load the title screen any more, stating not enough Vram, nothing to do with settings try it if you like and see, it's free to play, this is at 1440p, you might have better luck at 1080p
Weird, I was playing that a couple of weeks back on my vega64 (which is on its last legs I might add, but the old girl has served me well so I can’t complain :( )

Edit: that’s on a 27inch 1440/144hz lg monitor.
 
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your post read to me like your were posting to highlight the great deal you nabbed
for me, saving him £50 was a good deal, that is half a tank of fuel for some, or almost a chinese for three to others, to him that is a fortnight of bus fare, and food, or half a pair of trainers
 
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for me, saving him £50 was a good deal, that is half a tank of fuel for some, or almost a chinese for three to others to him that is a fortnight of bus fare, and food, or half a pair of trainers
Yup and that’s commendable but there were better savings to be had for little or likely no loss in performance - maybe in future post up in the general hardware section. If you ask a genuine question regarding a planned purchase/upgrade you will get all the advice you need.
 
update the game and try again, good luck.
I’ll give it a whirl tomorrow (edit: I mean later today, did not realise the time) - really just out of curiosity rather than anything else as it wasn’t really my cup of tea. Sadly at nearly 50 I don’t have the ‘wherewithal’ for games that like to get overly chaotic, confuddles my auld brain :p
Point - left click - dead is about my limit these days hence my reluctance to over spend on a gpu.
 
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