The 2025 Bum Thread

Yes there is a lot of value in someone coming in to manage the demise of a company in a way that doesn't expose people to too much liability ;)

I would say that in C-level roles the real primary thing is your interpersonal skills, your ability to handle and manage very large teams, and any individual's ability to do that job effectively can be secondary to the wider performance of a business. E.g someone can be a very good C-level, in a failing company.

People don't get C-Level roles without having convinced a large group of people with huge amounts of vested interest that they are up to the job, and better than all the other candidates.

Typically you'll get a free-for-all with a board of senior execs, and quite often a separate meet up with the chairman with key investors getting some face time too.

In one large company I worked at there's a chairman whose main role is to sit between the CEO/board chairman and the major investors, monitor performance of the group CEO, fire and research and qualify new CEOs if needed.
 
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So I've been playing with the prompts defined by Forbes: https://www.forbes.com/sites/bernar...rompts-that-will-supercharge-your-job-search/

The Career advisor one works really nicely.


So if you've never used AI then do the following: https://openai.com/

1. Go to ChatGPT:

2. Copy and paste the following, filling in the [] with your details:
Please help me find job vacancies that match my career goals. My current job is [insert job title] and I have [insert number] years’ experience. Act as a career advisor and help work out what my next step should be and where I should look for roles. Ask me any questions you need to know the answer to in order to advise me, one at a time. When you have enough information, suggest roles either within my current industry or outside of it, that I might be suitable for, according to my skills, experience and aspirations. Then advise me on job boards and websites, as well as other channels such as recruiters or networking opportunities, where I will find suitable vacancies, and keywords to use while searching

Then follow... and when it asks you about your skills in question 3.. simply take your CV history and copy and paste it in. It will end up even suggesting roles and where to go to find them.

Congrats - you've just done your first ChatGPT prompt. There's more ideas for prompts in the Forbes link. Additionally you can ask for a company you're considering applying to, and it will give you a good starting point for research:

I use a meta Prompt - that creates a prompt:
create an AI prompt for a UK company analysis in the market place for job seekers, be sure to include financial, employee, board director activities and market competitive assessment

ChatGPT then gives me a prompt to provide a report for a company:
Prompt:

"Conduct a detailed analysis of [Company Name], a UK-based organization operating in the job-seeking and recruitment marketplace. Your report should include the following components:

  1. Financial Performance:
    • Review the most recent financial statements (annual and quarterly reports if available).
    • Analyze key indicators such as revenue, profit/loss, EBITDA, and year-over-year growth.
    • Identify major sources of income and financial risks or liabilities.
  2. Employee Overview:
    • Summarize the current workforce size, hiring trends, and staff turnover rates.
    • Examine employee satisfaction and culture through available reviews (e.g., Glassdoor, LinkedIn insights).
    • Assess recruitment and retention strategies, including diversity and inclusion policies.
  3. Board and Leadership Activities:
    • Identify key board members and executive leadership.
    • Review recent changes in leadership or board composition.
    • Highlight any notable strategic decisions, investments, or controversies involving the board.
  4. Market Position and Competitive Assessment:
    • Identify the company’s key competitors in the UK and global job marketplace (e.g., Indeed, Reed, TotalJobs, LinkedIn).
    • Compare market share, service offerings, technology integration, and user base.
    • Evaluate the company’s competitive advantages and potential threats from emerging players or changing job-seeking behaviors.
  5. Strategic Outlook:
    • Discuss any recent acquisitions, partnerships, or strategic pivots.
    • Evaluate innovation and technological adoption (e.g., use of AI in matching algorithms, remote work platforms).
    • Provide a short- to mid-term outlook on the company’s position in the UK recruitment landscape.
Ensure your analysis references reliable and up-to-date sources and presents data-driven insights. Use charts or tables if appropriate."

Naturally I can add sources etc for specific sources of data etc but the result is interesting.

However chatGPT can give different results - I've got an instance where chatGPT has even asked me which I feel is better.. and the data's different :D
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A rare example of a recruiter finding out that the internal candidate that originally was selected for the role has fallen through.. so has gotten back into contact to see if I'd be interested in re-applying. Sounds good to me.
 
A rare example of a recruiter finding out that the internal candidate that originally was selected for the role has fallen through.. so has gotten back into contact to see if I'd be interested in re-applying. Sounds good to me.

So the bus comes back and it sounds like the internal candidate (doing the role aready) is staying. So no role. Such is the contractor life.
 
Gotta crack on with the job applications, too hot/ill yesterday and this morning ill/ear-infection/stuffyhead (the mrs went on a girls cruise with her mum for her 75th and they both came back with every illness which I'm now experiencing).

If I get two out today I'll be happy in the state. I'll then take the rest of the day off.
 
Seems that I'm starting to see a number of places turn around rejection in about 4 days. Those being the smaller companies. The large workday using companies just seem to disappear into the oblivion. I feel I may take the afternoon off..
 
For the first time in my entire life I'm looking at signing on to the dole. In the past I've simply used savings to span any gaps but I've also had a few bites in the past. This time is extremely quiet.

There's no difference in the looking for roles commitment than I have now.. except having to go for the interview once a week which is probably more time wasting than continuing with the job applications.

I've got a change of strategy which I'll try first.
 
For the first time in my entire life I'm looking at signing on to the dole. In the past I've simply used savings to span any gaps but I've also had a few bites in the past. This time is extremely quiet.

There's no difference in the looking for roles commitment than I have now.. except having to go for the interview once a week which is probably more time wasting than continuing with the job applications.

I've got a change of strategy which I'll try first.
I singed on after getting back from travelling.
Its not much. But more than I expected and covered 1/3 of my base costs a month.

Definitely worth it
 
For the first time in my entire life I'm looking at signing on to the dole. In the past I've simply used savings to span any gaps but I've also had a few bites in the past. This time is extremely quiet.

There's no difference in the looking for roles commitment than I have now.. except having to go for the interview once a week which is probably more time wasting than continuing with the job applications.

I've got a change of strategy which I'll try first.
I really wish we'd adopt the German system of mandatory employment insurance, I'm sure it's one of the major reasons they maintain consistently higher productivity than us.

Basically everyone pays 1-1/5% of their salary into an unemployment insurance scheme. If you get laid off, you get 65% of your salary for 12 months, tapering off for another year or two. You also get access to pretty much whatever training courses you want, for free. So if people do end up out of work, they get some time and breathing space, the opportunity to upskill and retrain, gives you a much more agile workforce, and just makes like that much better for everyone not having to worry where your next paycheque's coming from.
 
Yep that sounds great - although we can probably leave the German love of taking their kitchens with them when they move!

Only issue is that this would be seen as an addition cost by employers and it may breed a culture of not training people but leaving it to their insurance to meet the workforce skills requirements.
 
Yep that sounds great - although we can probably leave the German love of taking their kitchens with them when they move!
I still have half a kitchen suite in my loft from when I moved back :p
Only issue is that this would be seen as an addition cost by employers and it may breed a culture of not training people but leaving it to their insurance to meet the workforce skills requirements.
It's a deducted from your salary, and 1% or whatever it is isn't really noticeable. Although Germans have a fundamentally very different culture when it comes to work and personal life. Family and personal life very much come before work.
 
I really wish we'd adopt the German system of mandatory employment insurance, I'm sure it's one of the major reasons they maintain consistently higher productivity than us.

Basically everyone pays 1-1/5% of their salary into an unemployment insurance scheme. If you get laid off, you get 65% of your salary for 12 months, tapering off for another year or two. You also get access to pretty much whatever training courses you want, for free. So if people do end up out of work, they get some time and breathing space, the opportunity to upskill and retrain, gives you a much more agile workforce, and just makes like that much better for everyone not having to worry where your next paycheque's coming from.


Similar in Switzerland. 80% of salary if you have a family, for 18 months. Can be extended as well. Plus in general companies will pay around 1 month per year service + 2 months severance package
 
Applied for a role day yesterday and today got a follow up email asking to fill out form for DV.... only the "DV" form asks employment questions like current salary and required salary.. in fact it basically asks all the filtering questions a HR person would ask on a first interview. It doesn't bode well for company culture.. I've already filled out the workday application...
 
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So after going through all the DV pre-vetting malarkey for a C-level position... I got a response "due to evolving business needs, we have decided not to move forward with filling this role.". So either they failed my DV (unlikely, unless the Mrs' French mafia pushed it too far.. I can blame them :D) or they either lost the bid or have just announced restructuring internally..
 
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So after going through all the DV pre-vetting malarkey for a C-level position... I got a response "due to evolving business needs, we have decided not to move forward with filling this role.". So either they failed my DV (unlikely, unless the French side of the Mrs' family pushed it too far.. I can blame them :D) or they either lost the bid or have just announced restructuring internally..

My sympathies, considering what a ballache doing all the forms is and the subsequent interview. Who was the company, if you can/don't mind saying.

Edit. And yes you are correc, there is absolutely nothing to do with salary on a proper form and pretty sure it comes from the official vetting place,.not the employer.

Edit 2: The only time salary is mentioned is under the 'Income/Expenditure section'.
 
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