yoinked a b grade 5060 ti

[SuperElectric]

You're either the son or the OP at this point, but only the mods can possibly know.

Trying to be kind and helpful is apparently a sin for you, but when it comes to providing knowledge to people in tech I'm going to be blunt:

He made poor choices and thought people would celebrate the fact, you know how internet search engines work? Someone might come across this and make the same or worse decisions based on the information and frankly they're poor.

The fact his 4060 was a 8gb card (was it?) is irrelevant, you're spending a small fortune making incremental updates within tiny periods of time.

Your technical knowledge seems poor? The 4060 only comes with 8GB...

I posted because of the nonsense I was reading:

1) A 9060 XT 16gb for a £20 saving - poor choice, giving up DLSS4 for £20 is silly

2) Wait a few months and buy a 5070 or 9070 - poor choice, never wanted to spend that much on a GPU

3) Valuing a B Grade 5060 ti 16gb at £250 - poor choice, also OCUK didn't respond to his much more reasonable offer

4) Sell the 4060, add £350, and buy a 5070ti or 9070XT - poor choice, I've explained the maths already

5) Wait for the 5070 Super - poor choice, dont know the release date, price, or performance

There were a few supportive posts for what should have been a straight forward thread, but we got the above instead, completely unnecessary imo.

For the 'search engines', spending between £500 to £730 on a GPU when you only wanted to spend £350 is bad advice, don't do this! Spending more now won't always save money later, it's impossible to see the future. Buy the best available for your budget, with plenty of VRAM, and hope for the best.

 

[Gray2233]

Your technical knowledge seems poor? The 4060 only comes with 8GB...

The OP mentions at one point that he "should have bought the 16gb version."

I at no point claimed there was a 16gb version.

it's

it's not my money!
all I did was front the money for my son who is waiting for his wage in 3 days time, he was set on getting a 5060ti anyway based on reviews showing the 5060to to be the better gaming card than the 9060, the cheapest new 5060tis are £400, that is why I made the thread, as I was excited to have savedihim £50..
..but by all means do please explain to me how to magic money up out of thin air, oand how to get the 4060 money back for him, and we can send this card back then get a 5070ti! as I explained in my previous reply to you that you obviously have not taken the time toreadroperly, he needed to upgrade togo 16gb to play his favourite game, because it has just stopped working because not enough vram
he needed the 4060 at the time because his gpu before that broke, looking back he should have got the 16GB version, but he couldn't afford it, so what is ******* better for him? having a working PC that he can play all his games on, or saving the money, for a 5 series gpu that had no release date, or price, vs having dead games, or a dead PC
the 4060 was only £250 for crying out aloud, it hardily spoilt his life spending that on having a working PC,the money is spent now and he has an upgrade, what is the problem jebus! a £250 4060 and a £350 5060ti doesn't even add up to a 5070ti, can you even do basic maths?
are you just trolling or what man? poor show from a mod.
at least he is working and paying for these small purchases himself
So what if I'm going to get him a 5070ti for his november birthday? that's my money, and I can do that if I like,
I'll wait while you try to come up with a sensible reply, that tries to troll even further at the same time, *sigh*

I'm not addressing the rest, it's frankly nonsense.

 

[Armageus]

what planet are you on? grow up

Since I value being a mod more than saying what I really think, I'll leave it at this.

You clearly only want justification for your purchase so:

Gr8 card mate, what a deal!

 

[Thekwango]

There were a few supportive posts for what should have been a straight forward thread, but we got the above instead, completely unnecessary imo.

supportive of op over paying when they could have had very very similar performance for less ££'s?? if you look past the benchmarks that seem to confuse a lot of people (at this level of card) the real world truth of the matter is that these are entry level cards that perform, give or take a few % here or there, exactly the same. price is literally the only thing separating them.

in the op's scenario, whereby there are trying to do small up/sidegrades on a budget with a view to making a larger upgrade purchase a bit further down the line, price is the primary driver - every penny saved now means more into the larger upgrade kitty.

as others have mentioned that's not a very sensible way of upgrading, certainly not from a financial standpoint, but it's what the op has decided so it is what it is. no one should be applauding anyone when they are clearly making errors of judgment.

 

[pastymuncher]

Aye, my own gut tells me a bgrade 9070 (non xt) at ~400 quid isn’t completely beyond the realms of possibility, even for non super cool and awesome people - to be honest if the right one appears I may well submit a ‘cheeky’ offer in that region explaining the rationale behind the offer - worst case scenario the chap ignores it out of hand or says ‘jog on you numpty’ not the end of the world either way.

There's a cracking 9070 non XT in the MM for £415.

 

[Jacky60]

It's is a little funny that the mods calls OCUK B Grade a waste of money

Maybe you should have bought a Zotac version brand new for £373 from a different website

Also, 'Wait for the next gen card' is usually terrible advice, putting aside not knowing exactly when they're coming out. If the next release is really good, it's a crazy scramble to get one and you could miss out. If the next release is crap, people rush to buy existing stock, so prices rise overall and you'll miss out and waste your time.

I think it's great that the OCUK mod can be this honest and objective. There is a clear consensus here that the purchasing decisions advised or facilitated by the OP are not
the best way of getting the best performance OR value for money.

 

[Jacky60]

It's a 5060 Ti 16Gb, not a 5060. It's more than 40% faster than a 4060 with double the VRAM. Hardly a small upgrade.

It's also a gift for his son, believing OCUK B Grade to be a good price (which everyone has ridiculed, btw) he saved his son £50. Rather than assume the OP is a moron, why not assume that he wanted it to be surprise and do something nice? 1) Selling the 4060 first might ruin the surprise, also 2) why are we assuming they don't intend to sell the 4060 and use the money for something else? maybe they don't want to spend £650 on a GPU regardless of where the money comes from?

"Absolutely correct"? 2nd value of a 4060 right now is approx £180-£190, after fees/postage let's say £170. £170 + £350 = £520 That's not enough for a 2nd hand 9070XT, let alone a new one

He's already talking of buying a 5070TI in November! I can't think of a more bizarre and needlessly expensive upgrade path.

 

[SuperElectric]

supportive of op over paying when they could have had very very similar performance for less ££'s?? if you look past the benchmarks that seem to confuse a lot of people (at this level of card) the real world truth of the matter is that these are entry level cards that perform, give or take a few % here or there, exactly the same. price is literally the only thing separating them.

This is where I feel compelled to post, the 5060 ti 16gb and 9060 XT 16gb are not exactly the same, the upscaler has a value. Sometimes it's worth it, sometimes it's not. 5070ti over 9070 xt for £100, not worth it, 5060ti over 9060 xt for £20, worth it.

If lossless scaling or optiscaler came out with a premium version, with better image quality/compatibility, for £20-£30, I bet the PC enthusiast community would be all over it.

I do have to concede that the 9060 XT 16gb is the least worst alternative so far, so props for suggesting it

 

[Thekwango]

5060ti over 9060 xt for £20, worth it.

yea i'd agree, if all other things are equal, but they aren't as the 5060ti which is 20 quid more expensive is a bgrade with only 6months of warranty (and potentially whatever issue caused it to end up being returned in the first place) with the 9060xt being brand new full warranty. if the op had looked properly at the bgrade line up instead of having blinkers on for only one brand and actually made an offer he would absolutely have been able to buy a 9060xt 16gb for a much bigger saving than 20 quid over a bgrade 5060ti - that's what every one has been trying to tell the op. these tiny savings he's making now (same as when he purchased the 4060) are foolish & aren't really savings at all if they look at the bigger picture.

the op has stated that they intend to replace this card in a few months with a 5070 - given the graphical sacrifices the ops lad is having to make running an entry level card on 1440 240hz monitor it would make sense to buy the cheapest option now - he's going to have to make those same sacrifices whether it's a 9060xt or a 5060ti for the same image quality. the clearly sensible thing to do in the ops scenario is purchase the cheapest card that gives him a few extra fps and put the money saved into the 5070 kitty (well technically the sensible thing to do is wind the settings down on the existing card and put the 350 into the 5070 kitty but the op and his lad have made the dubious decision to not go with sensible)

it should also be remembered that the difference between the 2 cards in real world operation is absolutely going to be next to zero by the time the end user actually tweaks the card - no one running an entry level card would or should be running it the same way someone running a benchmark or high end gpu would (i.e. just selecting the default high setting profile)

 

[Threepwood]

if all other things are equal, but they aren't as the 5060ti which is 20 quid more expensive is a bgrade with only 6months of warranty (and potentially whatever issue caused it to end up being returned in the first place) with the 9060xt being brand new full warranty. if the op had looked properly at the bgrade line up instead of having blinkers on for only one brand and actually made an offer he would absolutely have been able to buy a 9060xt 16gb for a much bigger saving than 20 quid over a bgrade 5060ti - that's what every one has been trying to tell the op. these tiny savings he's making now (same as when he purchased the 4060) are foolish & aren't really savings at all if they look at the bigger picture.

Since I value being a mod more than saying what I really think, I'll leave it at this.

You clearly only want justification for your purchase so:

Gr8 card mate, what a deal!

what would I need justification from strangers for? we bought the best card for the money we had, saved £50 and got an upgrade, 240 fps on his fave game at max settings now, woot!, thank you for your support

 

[Alt0153]

what would I need justification from strangers for? we bought the best card for the money we had, saved £50 and got an upgrade, 240 fps on his fave game at max settings now, woot!, thank you for your support

cool story bro, enojoy the 4x fake frames with a 40 base fps

 

[Thekwango]

what would I need justification from strangers for?

you don't

we bought the best card for the money we had

no you didn't

240 fps on his fave game at max settings now, woot!

i've spent a fair bit of time replying to your posts trying to point out what the issue is with this process you and your lad seem to be doing with graphics cards. you've cherry picked replies and been downright rude in some instances for no reason at all.

so because of that i'm going to tell you a cold hard truth or 2.

you have not got a clue about pc's or gaming. you have a son who is either still in primary school or a borderline halfwit if he's allowing you to talk him into these idiotic purchases. you're shopping at the bottom end of the gpu market, live with that and accept your financial limitations, there's no shame in being financially limited - but seeing as you are, maybe try to make the best out of the situation instead of spunking 350 on a idiotic upgrade (that has not magically got your lad 240fpc when previously it was unplayable)
you've got it into your head that a 5060ti is so much better than a 9060xt - it isn't and that's not my opinion it's just a fact. the difference between the 2 cards ultimately boils down to 1 single metric - as someone who seemingly can't ask the computer forum he is a member of for help, for gods sake tell your lad to sign up and have him ask.

you're the lad's father, start acting like one, either talk some fiscal sense into him rather than feeding his idiocy or ask people who know more than you for advice before you go ******* another 350 away.

by the way i've just played marvel rivals on my vega64 8gb and it is running fine - you are either full of ***** or your son is taking you for a ride. i suspect a bit of both.

 

[Thekwango]

i've just gone and had a look at some of the op's posts in the hardware sections.......confirmed what i suspected, not a single clue about pc's. thankfully his advice seems to be limited to short posts that most folk are ignoring/rebutting.

 

[heatonpkmassive]

you don't

no you didn't

i've spent a fair bit of time replying to your posts trying to point out what the issue is with this process you and your lad seem to be doing with graphics cards. you've cherry picked replies and been downright rude in some instances for no reason at all.

so because of that i'm going to tell you a cold hard truth or 2.

you have not got a clue about pc's or gaming. you have a son who is either still in primary school or a borderline halfwit if he's allowing you to talk him into these idiotic purchases. you're shopping at the bottom end of the gpu market, live with that and accept your financial limitations, there's no shame in being financially limited - but seeing as you are, maybe try to make the best out of the situation instead of spunking 350 on a idiotic upgrade (that has not magically got your lad 240fpc when previously it was unplayable)
you've got it into your head that a 5060ti is so much better than a 9060xt - it isn't and that's not my opinion it's just a fact. the difference between the 2 cards ultimately boils down to 1 single metric - as someone who seemingly can't ask the computer forum he is a member of for help, for gods sake tell your lad to sign up and have him ask.

you're the lad's father, start acting like one, either talk some fiscal sense into him rather than feeding his idiocy or ask people who know more than you for advice before you go ******* another 350 away.

by the way i've just played marvel rivals on my vega64 8gb and it is running fine - you are either full of ***** or your son is taking you for a ride. i suspect a bit of both.

Well, that's warmed the room up

 

[Thekwango]

Well, that's warmed the room up

sorry - it may have come across a bit crass but i'd just realised folk have been trying to advise this chap for ages (across different threads too) but he seems to just poo-poo any advice or suggestions, while also being a tad rude to those trying to offer advice. it's the rudeness that's not on, especially when he's talking utter dross in the first place.

 

[CAT-THE-FIFTH]

The RTX5060TI has been £380 new and the RX9060XT has been £300 new a few weeks ago. The £30 saving for a B-Grade card isn't worth it,especially as B-Grade RTX4070 cards were as low as £300 in June IIRC. The RTX4070 is faster than both cards.

Marvel Rivals also has FSR4 too:

Spoiler

The RTX5060TI is around 5% to 10% faster but both have similar 1% lows. Regarding FSR4 it's in-between DLSS3 and DLSS4 and actually is better in some specific areas. The RX9060XT also has a full 16X PCI-E connector and possibly lower CPU overhead in DX12 games on weaker CPUs,so will retain more of its performance on an older system IMHO.

 

[Gray2233]

yea i'd agree, if all other things are equal, but they aren't as the 5060ti which is 20 quid more expensive is a bgrade with only 6months of warranty (and potentially whatever issue caused it to end up being returned in the first place) with the 9060xt being brand new full warranty. if the op had looked properly at the bgrade line up instead of having blinkers on for only one brand and actually made an offer he would absolutely have been able to buy a 9060xt 16gb for a much bigger saving than 20 quid over a bgrade 5060ti - that's what every one has been trying to tell the op. these tiny savings he's making now (same as when he purchased the 4060) are foolish & aren't really savings at all if they look at the bigger picture.

the op has stated that they intend to replace this card in a few months with a 5070 - given the graphical sacrifices the ops lad is having to make running an entry level card on 1440 240hz monitor it would make sense to buy the cheapest option now - he's going to have to make those same sacrifices whether it's a 9060xt or a 5060ti for the same image quality. the clearly sensible thing to do in the ops scenario is purchase the cheapest card that gives him a few extra fps and put the money saved into the 5070 kitty (well technically the sensible thing to do is wind the settings down on the existing card and put the 350 into the 5070 kitty but the op and his lad have made the dubious decision to not go with sensible)

it should also be remembered that the difference between the 2 cards in real world operation is absolutely going to be next to zero by the time the end user actually tweaks the card - no one running an entry level card would or should be running it the same way someone running a benchmark or high end gpu would (i.e. just selecting the default high setting profile)

To expand on this:

Sapphire Radeon RX 9060 XT Pulse OC 16 GB Review - An Excellent Choice

The Sapphire Radeon RX 9060 XT 16 GB sells close to MSRP, yet it features a factory overclock and higher power limit. In our testing, its cooler remained whisper-quiet even at full load. Interestingly, this model uses Samsung memory, whereas all other cards we've tested so far use Hynix.

www.techpowerup.com

There's around 5% difference between the 9060XT 16gb and the 5060ti 16gb on average, absolutely tiny.

Not that I'd suggest buying either coming from a 4060, which seemingly is solely so they can turn RT on in one of the games he plays, which is baffling to me.

 

[CAT-THE-FIFTH]

To expand on this:

Sapphire Radeon RX 9060 XT Pulse OC 16 GB Review - An Excellent Choice

The Sapphire Radeon RX 9060 XT 16 GB sells close to MSRP, yet it features a factory overclock and higher power limit. In our testing, its cooler remained whisper-quiet even at full load. Interestingly, this model uses Samsung memory, whereas all other cards we've tested so far use Hynix.

www.techpowerup.com

There's around 5% difference between the 9060XT 16gb and the 5060ti 16gb on average, absolutely tiny.

Not that I'd suggest buying either coming from a 4060, which seemingly is solely so they can turn RT on in one of the games he plays, which is baffling to me.

The RTX5070 is dipping closer to £450:

https://www.overclockers.co.uk/palit-geforce-rtx-5070-infinity-3-sff-12gb-gddr7-pci-express-graphics-card-gra-pal-04407.html

I have seen refurbished cards for around £435.

 

[SuperElectric]

The RTX5060TI has been £380 new and the RX9060XT has been £300 new. The £30 saving for a B-Grade card isn't worth it,especially as B-Grade RTX4070 cards were as low as £300 IIRC a while back.

I see the AMD army equipped with the OCUK time machine has made it's way into the thread. Where is the 9060 XT 16GB for £300? Well, it's currently located on 7th July 2025 in Gibbo's extra special forum deal. Have fun trying to buy one

cool story bro, enojoy the 4x fake frames with a 40 base fps

5060ti 16gb (and 9060xt 16gb presumably) gets approx 100fps 1440p native medium settings... sick burn though

Man, so much drama for the sake of £30. If the OP was trying to buy a new old stock RX6600 for £300, or a 5090 for £5k, I would get it, but for this? Crazy

 

[heatonpkmassive]

sorry - it may have come across a bit crass but i'd just realised folk have been trying to advise this chap for ages (across different threads too) but he seems to just poo-poo any advice or suggestions, while also being a tad rude to those trying to offer advice. it's the rudeness that's not on, especially when he's talking utter dross in the first place.

You don't have to apologise to me mate, I got where you were coming from.

I'm just waiting for the response now