A man cautioned for carrying a bladed trowel in public

[Rroff]

Yeah probably someone stitched him up but it is just common sense though if you are carrying around something which resembles a large dagger to transport it sensibly rather than accessible on your hip with the law being what it is.

 

[deviation]

 

[SexyGreyFox]

I decided to read the story, it wasn't pensioner Bill coming back from his allotment, it was a young man which doesn't look good.
He's been an idiot and just been told don't do it again, pointless fighting it.

 

[200sols]

I decided to read the story, it wasn't pensioner Bill coming back from his allotment, it was a young man which doesn't look good.
He's been an idiot and just been told don't do it again, pointless fighting it.

What has age got to do with it?

 

[adidan]

A carry bag?
I have a collection of them which amuses the wife.
I bet he's been to ALDI now and bought one for £5.

I refer the Honourable Member to my previous post

Holding my hands up, fair cop.

I lazily skim read it.

 

[koolpc]

The police were reported as saying they are trying their very best to weed out criminal activity in the area!!!

 

[Rroff]

A carry bag?
I have a collection of them which amuses the wife.
I bet he's been to ALDI now and bought one for £5.

Ideally something a bit more robust than a carrier bag - I was on a bus near Croydon once, some old women had got on the bus with a carrier bag full of cutlery including several large kitchen knives! completely unprotected, the bus was packed and someone boarding bumped into her resulting in one of the knives skewering her leg and hit an artery. I'm not usually bothered by the sight of blood but that gave my stomach a bit of a turn - it was like something out a of Tarantino movie. Fortunately there was a nurse on the bus who swung promptly into action (deserved a medal IMO she was really good) and the next stop fortunately was opposite a clinic which a couple of passengers carried her into. Unfortunately don't know the outcome.

 

[hornetstinger]

Yep right action by the police. That's a knife.

That's not a knife

 

[Terminal_Boy]

I may have been a bit flippant, my bad.

That said, what do you actually do if you have an allotment and can't leave tools in a shed so they don't get knicked by a scote.

Use an old canvas tool bag?

 

[Terminal_Boy]

A carry bag?
I have a collection of them which amuses the wife.
I bet he's been to ALDI now and bought one for £5.

I have 4 of the Lidl/Parkside ones all packed with tools for different jobs.

 

[adidan]

Use an old canvas tool bag?

I refer the second Honourable Member to my previous post

Holding my hands up, fair cop.

I lazily skim read it.

 

[deviation]

That's not a knife

Shame on you joke thief!
Also, where's my toast?

 

[SexyGreyFox]

What has age got to do with it?

Everything.
If I saw 30 year old Matt from next door walking with a knife it would mean a lot more than 85 year old John who lives the other side.

 

[throwaway4372]

Can't create precedent for actual crims to say "I'm going to my allotment m8".

 

[Rob_B]

Everything.
If I saw 30 year old Matt from next door walking with a knife it would mean a lot more than 85 year old John who lives the other side.

I dunno, that John is a wrong 'un

 

[200sols]

Everything.
If I saw 30 year old Matt from next door walking with a knife it would mean a lot more than 85 year old John who lives the other side.

No. If the law stops 30 year old Matt it should also stop 85yr old John. You can't tell someone is dodgy just by looking at them.

 

[SexyGreyFox]

No. If the law stops 30 year old Matt it should also stop 85yr old John. You can't tell someone is dodgy just by looking at them.

Oh I agree but I (me personally) would think totally different about the 30 year old against the 85 year old.

 

[ttaskmaster]

You could have good reason for possessing a knife and a rifle and walking about in public.

He did - He was taking the tools home, having used them specifically and only for their intended purpose.
Gardener cautioned for carrying traditional style gardening implements.

But unless you're using them for the allowed purposes right there (unlikely), no one is meant to see them and you're not to go shopping and take detours as you go from appropriate place to appropriate place.

Why does it matter who sees them, so long as you're not behaving like a **** with them? Would you be cowering in fear if you saw within my hoary grasp a Stanley No 5 bladed article?

I'm also not aware of any law that requires you to conceal your (potentially offensive) bladed article. That's just advice from a few retail and hobby websites.

Carrying knives

Explaining the legalities of carrying a knife for use in the field, including explanation of the law around lock-knives.

basc.org.uk

Everything.
If I saw 30 year old Matt from next door walking with a knife it would mean a lot more than 85 year old John who lives the other side.

Context matters, though - Is Matt an outdoorsy type, such as a recreational stalker, an angler, or a farm worker? Is he a tradesman of some kind? Or a hobbyist who would have good reason to carry a bladed article?

 

[hornetstinger]

Ban all power tools. You never know a carpenter could stab with a chisel, cut peoples limbs off with saws, stab people with screwdrivers, hit people with hammers, brick layers could kill someone with bricks, or suffocate people with plastic cement bags. Accountants could stab people with pens, so those should be banned as well.

People that work at bed shops could suffocate people with pillows so pillows should be banned.

 

[SexyGreyFox]

Context matters, though - Is Matt an outdoorsy type, such as a recreational stalker, an angler, or a farm worker? Is he a tradesman of some kind? Or a hobbyist who would have good reason to carry a bladed article?

Let's pretend I've never seen either of them before, the 85 year old bloke wouldn't trigger anything.
I don't expect you not to be triggered, you have your own opinion.