Official 2025 Summer Break Thread!

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We did this last year to avoid just spamming either the last race or the off-topic thread.
I kind of expect a quieter Summer Break this year with few driver moves, etc to be confirmed this year ahead of 2026!
24 Days until the Dutch Grand Prix weekend!
 
It feels like only McLaren are a happy team right now. Lots of apathy going on, especially at the top half of the table.

Ferrari seem to have broken both their drivers despite being the current runners up.
Red Bull seem to be taking inspiration from Ferrari in all but strategy.
Merc are neither here nor there, George is consistent but the car is not.
"Aston" are yet again going through ownership turbulence and are muddling through hoping Newey builds them a rocket for next year so at least one driver might show up to the races.
Alpine are in the same boat as Aston, except they have no 2026 hopes and two inconsistent drivers.
Williams seem to have a decent car, best points haul for a few years and two safe drivers. Sainz massively out performed by Albon however.
RB are doing alright but are working with two rookies and having their team poached from every few months. I can't help but feel Tsunoda would have them further up the table.
Kick are getting some good results. One podium means they're close to "best of the rest" but I suspect they'll be bottom 3 by the seasons close. Bortoletto is impressive so far but too few points to show for it.
Haas seem forgettable at this point. Ocon doing alright, Bearman not so comparatively.

My main take-away so far is despite McLaren's dominance so far, all teams have good points on the table. Some weather, some poor top 4 teams performances and a nannying FIA has brought in opportunities for others. We also seem to have less carnage on race day. Plenty of scrappy racing moments but no major Maldonado incidents yet. The rookies are doing really well aside from Colapinto (hopefully Argentina aren't on here with their threats and pitchforks).

I can't seem much changing on the drivers front. Tsunoda is the one to watch but nobody would want to replace him before they see what the 26 cars are like.

We're getting some relatively decent racing up and down the field and that races aren't necessarily over on the first lap so I think we can be thankful for that despite the dominance. I'm looking forward to the pressure cooker at McLaren and how that plays out. They're doing a great job with it right now but cracks are showing. It's such a long season too, we'd be almost wrapped by now in times gone by and it would be a foregone conclusion already. Whoever wins it'll be well deserved I think.
 
Hard to disagree with most of that although I'd disagree with "Aston" ownership turbulence; I know that the "Car" Company sold out its shares in the team this week but at the same time Lawrence Stroll bought more shares in the Car Company so it seems like it was more of a corporate/financing transaction than anything else; they were never a large influence in the F1 team anyway.

Alpine though are a mess, I'd almost like Briatore to just buy the team
 
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I was going to start a Midseason Rookie Rankings thread, but I guess it makes more sense to put in here so: thoughts on the unusually large number of rookies in the season so far? I'll start with the brightest:

Bortoleto: Although Hülk is well ahead on points, Gabriel's performances have been better than this suggests. He's actually ahead 8-6 in quali and that's against a driver who was always more of a Saturday than Sunday talent. IMO, he's the most impressive of the rookies this year.

Bearman: A little behind Ocon, overall on points and quali but they've been closely matched with Bearman just two behind (6-8) in quali and with a number of race finishes ahead of Ocon. His points would be lot closer if he wasn't quite so fond of an 11th place finish. Apart from a costly smash in the very first session of the season, he's not been racking up the repair costs either. Ocon is a solid driver so matching up against him speaks very well to Oli's talents.

Hadjar: Began the season in particularly embarrassing fashion but has recovered well since. He's qualified well, picked up points through the season, and hasn't been particularly accident prone or in a huge number of dodgy incidents -- although driving into the back of Antonelli does stand out. Trouble is, most of the time he's been up against a clearly demoralised Lawson and that makes it hard to judge how well he's actually doing.

Antonelli: He's not had the stand out start to his F1 career he would have hoped for, or that his background and the hype around him suggested he could have, but I don't think he's been nearly as bad as is sometimes suggested. He's had a lot of bad luck lately, with technical issues and being taken out by Hadjar, and he's been comprehensively beaten by Russell but he's also had some remarkable bright spots: that Sprint pole and the podium in Canada, in particular. Also, unlike the other Rookies, he's up against one of F1's genuine talents and in a top tier car, as well as being the youngest and least experienced of the Rookies. I still think he'll come good before the end of the season.

Lawson: Hugely mistreated by Red Bull at the start of the season. His performance at two tracks he'd never driven before was far behind Max but then doesn't make him any different to Perez and Tsunoda, but dumping him so soon was brutal even by the standards of that team. Since then, he has spent most of the season underperforming and driving with reckless disregard to those around him. He's failed to match up against Hadjar and racked up a mass of penalty points. Still, recent races have been brighter, as he's begun to get the measure of his teammate and iron out some of the mistakes.

Doohan: Another hugely mistreated driver, but he was also well behind Gasly in quali and races and involved in so many costly incidents in those few races that he still sits near the top of the destructor's championship.

Colapinto: He's failed to match up to his bright entry into the sport last year. Like Doohan, he's been pointless, failed to come close to Gasly's performances, and been involved in a number of incidents. It's pretty much impossible to say which of them has the worse record but I'm rating Colapinto slightly behind on the basis that he had more F1 race experience before this season and so should be a little closer to Gasly.

Oof, and just after I finish typing this I see that Franco has had another big smash in the tyre test. If there's a driver move over the break I wouldn't be too surprised to see that Colapinto is getting booted.
 
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If there's a driver move over the break I wouldn't be too surprised to see that Colapinto is getting booted.
I thoguht Franco only had a contract until the summer break or did that change?

Agree with large chunk of your rookie post though, I would probably put Hadjar as best rookie so far.
Antonelli is biggest disappointment based on expectations/delivery.
 
I thoguht Franco only had a contract until the summer break or did that change?

There have been mixed reports. I think the latest was that they were expecting him to stay until the end of the season.

Agree with large chunk of your rookie post though, I would probably put Hadjar as best rookie so far.

Hadjar is certainly the biggest good surprise. I wasn't expecting much from him given his junior career, but he's been impressive. I put him behind Bearman and Bortoleto mostly because we don't have a decent yardstick for him and so whereas I think those two have proven themselves capable there's more of a question mark over where to rank Hadjar. Maybe he's just looking good because his teammate has been disappointing this year.
 
All I'll comment on is my disappointment with alpine in every possible way. So much so I don't really support them (and I've been following that team for best part of 3 decades)

The management, the media presence, way drivers are treated, the performance, the second driver merry go round.... All Dire.

Alpine come across as a cold corporate machine that is getting what it deserves. Multiple team principles and a revolving door of senior staff.

Way they handled piastri/alonso etc was awful. I'm so glad piastri got out.

Its certainly taken a shine off f1 for me. I watch it now out of habit.

I'd agree I think colipinto has been worse than doohan. But neither are great. But also can't just ignore the threat hanging over them from the day they join.
 
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Development will surely tail off now. Mclaren are untouchable overall and I can't see a late surge from any team to try to match their package when the focus will now be to 2026 development. The best we can hope for is that Mclaren keep finishing high to wrap up the constructors nice and early, then true battle can commence between Lando and Oscar where they get their elbows out. I still expect and support a Piastri World Drivers title.

I wonder what will happen with Lewis. Critical times for him. If the team is not working for him maybe we could see a shock move back to Merc or elsewhere just to get away from Ferrari.
 
I wonder what will happen with Lewis. Critical times for him. If the team is not working for him maybe we could see a shock move back to Merc or elsewhere just to get away from Ferrari.

Maybe if Aston can't get Max, he'll be the next multi-WDC they hire to coach Stroll? But, for my money, Hamilton will finish his career at Ferrari whether it goes well or badly.
 
I can't see Lewis going anywhere else; if he's not at Ferrari he'll be in retirement.
Remember too; the Ferrari move wasn't just about racing; there's a lot of money involved in some of his off-track ventures with Ferrari chair John Elkann having setup a vehicle to invest - Lewis is set for life!
 
I think Tsunoda may be safe for the rest of the season now his old boss is running the RB team.

Possibly because no-one else wants his seat.

Yeah I expect so; to be honest Red Bull should really be looking outside of their junior drivers for that second seat and signing an experienced hand; let the younger guys develop outside of the spotlight of the top team with all the drama.
 
I think Tsunoda may be safe for the rest of the season now his old boss is running the RB team.

Agreed. Mekies has worked closely with Tsunoda for a long time, and I think he'll be much more inclined to try and get the best out of him. I also don't think he's as desperate to promote Lindblad either, and with Lindblad having a solid but not stellar F2 season I think he'll be keen to see him finish his season at the very least and perhaps even stay on for a second season in F2. The combination should be enough to keep Yuki in seat for the rest of the season.

Yeah I expect so; to be honest Red Bull should really be looking outside of their junior drivers for that second seat and signing an experienced hand; let the younger guys develop outside of the spotlight of the top team with all the drama.

If they're looking outside their stable; what is the purpose of their stable? Deal with the issues in the top team and I think it'll prove less of a meatgrinder for young talent. I don't fancy Hadjar's chances against Max, of course, but I think under Mekies they'll deliver a car that he will at least not embarrass himself in.
 
Who does the OCUK F1 Hivemind think would take Yuki’s seat for 2026 if offered?

Anyone not in F1 or who is losing their seat. Hadjar and Lawson wouldn't get a choice. Many of the lower team drivers: Sainz probably, Ocon, maybe Gasly, and Hülk would think hard about it. Albon reportedly spurned Red Bull's approaches last year and I doubt he's changed his mind. The McLaren drivers aren't going to think about, why would they? I think the Mercedes drivers have faith in their team for next year. Lewis only just joined Ferrari and whilst he's not having fun I don't think he'll quit on his dream already. Leclerc? Maybe. He's been frustrated by Ferrari and I think he'd relish the chance to prove he's a better driver than Max.
 
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