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At RRP which is the best card 9070xt, 5070ti and 5080?

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Which is the best buy in peoples opinions for 1440p gaming? When looking online a lot of places seem to use the American street value of these cards which can throw the balance out wildly.

So right now at the time of typing the swift 9070xt can be had for £599, the palit 5070ti can be had for £668 or the ventus for £680 and finally the 5080 can be had for £950.

With the above prices what cards would you say is the best buy? The 5080 is obviously the best performing but is it worth the premium? Does the 5070ti also warrant spending an extra 100~ on for use of things like DLSS 4 and for someone who hasnt used anything like it before how do DLSS and FSR compare?

Thanks.

Purpose needed: 1440p Ultra wide gaming
CPU: 5700x3d
RAM: 32gb
 
XIV901 said:
Which is the best buy in peoples opinions for 1440p gaming? When looking online a lot of places seem to use the American street value of these cards which can throw the balance out wildly.

So right now at the time of typing the swift 9070xt can be had for £599, the palit 5070ti can be had for £668 or the ventus for £680 and finally the 5080 can be had for £950.

With the above prices what cards would you say is the best buy? The 5080 is obviously the best performing but is it worth the premium? Does the 5070ti also warrant spending an extra 100~ on for use of things like DLSS 4 and for someone who hasnt used anything like it before how do DLSS and FSR compare?

Thanks.

Purpose needed: 1440p Ultra wide gaming
CPU: 5700x3d
RAM: 32gb
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Forget about the 5080 at 1440P its overkill.

Its between the 9070 XT and thee 5070 Ti, i would go for the 9070 XT as its cheaper but that doesn't mean you should do the same, they are very close in performance with the 5070 Ti being a little better in Ray Tracing and has wider good upscaling support, that being FSR 4 is good with DLSS 3 and 4 also being good with older versions of FSR being not good.

But that is what you pay the premium for on the 5070 Ti vs the 9070 XT, i don't think that premium is worth it but you might...
 
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They're both decent cards, the 5070Ti is starting to drop now to its original RRP, or even lower, whilst the 9070XT is still typically above its, which perhaps says a bit about relative demand and performance, the 9070XT is still selling a bit above its RRP, whilst the 5070Ti has had to drop a bit.

At RRP I'd lean towards the 9070XT (hence I bought a Nitro on release, when the 5070Ti's were typically best part of £900 due to shortages and the Trump factor, which is currently waiting to go in my current build that I'm waiting for a few final parts to come in stock for), however at current pricing it really depends on what you prefer; wider upscaling support and better RT, vs better raster performance per dollar; and sometimes when the 9070XT gets to fire on all cylinders with an engine and does really well at raster, it actually matches or beats the 5080, but its more typically in the 5070Ti ballpark. There are odd occasions where games hate AMD/AMD Drivers though and make the 9070XT run notably worse than it should. (Sons of the Forest and Wukong seem to fall into this category)

Both cards work differently so its not surprising its situation and game engine dependent; with some games favouring one or the other.

Drivers for AMD this round have been pretty solid overall though, whilst Nvidia's 5*** series drivers have been a bit of a ****show and well below thier usual reputation for quality, so there's not much to argue about between them, even if Nvidia has the better reputation there.

I wouldnt bother with the 5080, it's just not faster enough to justify the uplift in cost at RRP or realworld unless you no longer care about value or REALLY want to max out RT as much as possible; unless it gets replaced by a noticeably faster 5080 Super sometime soon when it might start to be more interesting.

Out of the 3 you'd listed, it'd be between the cheaper Palit 5070ti or the 9070XT, at around 11-12% price difference. I wouldnt bother to spend the extra on a Ventus, its really not an overwhelmingly better card as far as I can tell and stock boost clock is not much different; to the point temperature and silicon (and what you end up boosting to) will make a bigger difference than the stock BIOS.

I was willing to pay a bit extra for a Nitro because it is a higher TDP, more overbuilt 9070XT, but that doesn't count in the Ventus' case, so it'd be between the 9070XT or cheapest 5070Ti (Palit) that wasn't built like **** lol and the Palit looks fine, with a triple fan cooler.

Are you willing to pay another £70 for faster RT and wider upscaling support. If yes, get a 5070Ti, if you don't care about those, get the 9070XT.
 
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Ultrawide gaming, 5080. If you get the other 2, it will always be on the back of your mind… why didn’t I get the 5080.
 
It depends on the games you play honestly, titles like CoD love AMD for example but there's others which equally favour Nvidia.

Personally I'd take the 5070ti, I switch between 4K on my TV and an ultrawide monitor depending. The TV at least makes upscaling more important, and while FSR4 is much improved over prior iterations it simply doesn't quite match or have the level of support of DLSS. There are workarounds but they're imperfect, and if you play a lot of multi in some cases they can even trigger anti-cheat.

That said, at this point in time I'd wait and see what the Super variants bring to the table, they're due out before the end of the year and while raw performance improvements will be minor they'll all have a good chunk more VRAM.

The 5080 is terrible value, the only time I'd really consider it is if you're unable to afford the 5090 but do a lot of AA/AAA gaming at 4K and don't upgrade frequently.
 
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XIV901 said:
With the above prices what cards would you say is the best buy? The 5080 is obviously the best performing but is it worth the premium? Does the 5070ti also warrant spending an extra 100~ on for use of things like DLSS 4 and for someone who hasnt used anything like it before how do DLSS and FSR compare?
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You might find this interesting, it covers a lot of that kind of ground:

My general advice would be: the difference is not big and for most cases: I wouldn't pay much extra for one, BUT, if you're struggling to achieve playable framerates with your target games/settings at a high resolution, that difference can mean more.
 
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Definitely not the 5080 it's not fast enough over the 5070ti to justify it's price. I've always been an AMD fan boy but cyberpunk with path tracing made me switch sides. If you're not worried about that then go with the 9070xt if you are then the 5070ti would be the better choice IMHO
 
9070XT at RRP probably the best although if you're interested in RT/upscaling then the 5070TI. I'd go for the 5070TI as in some games DLSS and RT do genuinely look almost as good as native but with more FPS. DLSS does look pretty **** in most of the games I've tried it in but in CB2077 it looks good for example. I would pay a £50+ premium for the 5070ti but not £80+.
 
Wouldn’t bother with the 5080 because they’ll probably launch a real 5080 as the Super or Ti variant, possibly at the same price, similar to what happened with the 4080. The current 5080 is a scam.
 
5050 Ti 16GB way cheaper & within a few percent in many games. Just select 1080 use DLSS to compensate with image sharpening if need be!
 
I wanted a new GPU a couple of months ago, couldn't decide and it was pretty much the same choices you mentioned.

I have a 4k 160hz monitor and an AM5 system with no graphics card currently.
Common sense is telling me to simply get a good GPU with 8 pin PCIe connectors. So my choice initially was to look at the 9070xt or 5070ti.

I have thought about the 5080, and if it had 24gb of memory I would probably have bought it.

With Nvidia Supers rumoured to be getting released this year, I can't bring myself to purchase any current GPU. So I will just have to wait and see.

I would rather not use a 12v cable, but really unless AMD gets a finger out or the pricing drops another £100+, I can't see any reason not to get an Nvidia 24gb model if it comes out at a reasonable price.

I've even considered buying the Intel B580 or the 9060xt 16gb until we have more 24gb choices.

For now, just trying to be patient.
 
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Definitely not the 5080 it's not fast enough over the 5070ti to justify it's price. I've always been an AMD fan boy but cyberpunk with path tracing made me switch sides. If you're not worried about that then go with the 9070xt if you are then the 5070ti would be the better choice IMHO
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What he's not telling you here is that he's now playing the game at 28 to 34 FPS 1440P, he needs to use DLSS 4 Balanced mode to get 60 FPS.


This is the 9070 XT, also with Path Tracing and FSR 4, which you can use with a free program called optiscaler, with Path Tracing 1440P on Quality mode, a higher mode than Balanced he's getting 50 FPS, if he switched it to balanced mode he would get close to 60 FPS, not quite as high at the 5070 Ti on Balanced mode but close enough i think.

The fact that you have to use such an image degrading DLSS / FSR mode for both GPU's to get 60 FPS with Path Tracing to me defeats the objective of using Path Tracing to begin with, its effectively running at 720P for the 5070 Ti and 1080P for the 9070 XT.


Watch from the beginning to see how massive a difference it makes to the image quality native FSR 3 vs FSR 4 using optiscaler, with optiscaler you can turn pretty much any game that isn't natively FSR 4 in to FSR 4. And its free.
 
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So I’m looking to do a new build. But no immediate rush. Currently have a 5800x3d with a 3080 fe 10gb

BF6 is the reason (although if noise is accurate my pc probably will run it well enough anyway), and then GTA 6 with it launches (will play on ps5 pro initially)

Sounds like a good time to wait and see in the run up to Christmas is supers will make there way.

I have a nice 1440p and likely happy to upgrade / buy another at the same res. 4k for a desktop screen isn’t something I’m after and the cost to drive it makes it a done deal to stay at that res.
 
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