EV general discussion

[Mysterae_]

Loving all the lights on the ionic. All the interior lights can be changed to anything you want and also change with the different drive modes.

I've always liked the rear lights on these, however I think they missed a trick. If only there were more LED segments they could give messages to the car behind .

 

[Penfold101]

I've always liked the rear lights on these, however I think they missed a trick. If only there were more LED segments they could give messages to the car behind .

“How can we increase road rage incidents by 500%…”

 

[jpaul]

illuminated emblems per se increase stereotyping of behaviour of otherwise less distinguishable car models - if you can't programme the colour.

Renault uk on r4 this morning advertising now govt confirmed £1500 ev credit many of their models now have - cwouldn't explain to audience why their cars didn't get the full 3750,
but suggestion that customers maybe waiting for cars with 3750 credit (are there any candidates, govt was a bit disingenuous with that stretch goal)

e: ramping up their bidir charger adds - no zara models here

 

[Teknobry]

illuminated emblems per se increase stereotyping of behaviour of otherwise less distinguishable car models - if you can't programme the colour.

Could you explain a bit more what this nonsense means?

 

[Draeger]

Any Taycan owners here?

My new (to me) 2024 Taycan Sport Turismo GTS is being delivered tomorrow. It replaces my 2021 M340i Touring. I had planned on going to an M3 Touring but have been considering making the jump to an EV and some of my circumstances have changed meaning an EV makes perfect sense.

Did a bit of research and really liked what I read about the Taycan.

It's a J1.1 2024 so 11 months old. Bought from an OPC so it's used/approved. I did look at J1.2 versions but price wise on the used market they are still at that point when they've not depreciated enough to make them a sensible buy so plumped for the newest J1.1 I could find in GTS spec.

Will post pics once it arrives and will likely cross post in the Porsche thread.

Looking forward to my first drive

 

[pastymuncher]

For the first time in almost a week I was able to charge the Leaf last night. SSEN sent a engineer around yesterday who ran a load of tests on our house supply who confirmed that it was now up to 256.9v so no wonder the charger was tripping out!! I had told him it had been steadily increasing since the storm last Monday and he confirmed that it was a problem at our substation around the corner. It has two transformers and one of them had a problem so the other was trying to compensate and jacked the voltage up too much. He wasn't allowed to work on the transformer though and the guy who could was out on a job somewhere else. It was finally fixed by early evening last night. The thing that gets me is that out of over 200 houses that get their power from that substation I was the only one that reported a problem. I know I am the only one with a EV charger but it wasn't just that being affected. We had random computer crashes, TV's turning off by themselves and phone chargers getting so warm they paused charging until they cooled down. Have we really got to the stage that when something goes wrong people can't be bothered to get off their backsides and do something about it even if all it takes is a phone call?

 

[Kenai]

The thing that gets me is that out of over 200 houses that get their power from that substation I was the only one that reported a problem. I know I am the only one with a EV charger but it wasn't just that being affected. We had random computer crashes, TV's turning off by themselves and phone chargers getting so warm they paused charging until they cooled down. Have we really got to the stage that when something goes wrong people can't be bothered to get off their backsides and do something about it even if all it takes is a phone call?

I doubt most people understand what's going on enough to even put things together and conclude that these sort of issues are due to an out of specification supply voltage, especially so if they don't have anything that can indicate to them what the voltage actually is - computers crashing and TVs turning off I think most people would just put down to 'oh that was a bit strange' and carry on.

 

[b0rn2sk8]

Not only that, the further you get from the transformer, the lower the voltage so their house may be within tolerance even if yours isn’t.

 

[m4rmite]

illuminated emblems per se increase stereotyping of behaviour of otherwise less distinguishable car models - if you can't programme the colour.

Renault uk on r4 this morning advertising now govt confirmed £1500 ev credit many of their models now have - cwouldn't explain to audience why their cars didn't get the full 3750,
but suggestion that customers maybe waiting for cars with 3750 credit (are there any candidates, govt was a bit disingenuous with that stretch goal)

e: ramping up their bidir charger adds - no zara models here

There are no car candidates at present that can claim the higher band of £3750.

But it sounds a great offer by the government doesn't it?

 

[Demon]

My mother was in the middle of sorting a deal out on a new Cupra Born V2 eBoost, she had 3 dealers offer her one for £28500 in the colour she wanted.. she re-approached them post gov't grant being clarified and getting that factored in and the entire amount (circa £1500) has been absorbed by the dealer so the car is stlll within £5 of the original £28500 price..

I knew that would happen, completely useless grant that no doubt will have the majority of it going direct to dealers/manufacturers.

 

[tom_e]

My mother was in the middle of sorting a deal out on a new Cupra Born V2 eBoost, she had 3 dealers offer her one for £28500 in the colour she wanted.. she re-approached them post gov't grant being clarified and getting that factored in and the entire amount (circa £1500) has been absorbed by the dealer so the car is stlll within £5 of the original £28500 price..

I knew that would happen, completely useless grant that no doubt will have the majority of it going direct to dealers/manufacturers.

Of course it is, nice easy extra profit for the dealer and people who were going to buy the car anyway still will.

 

[MOOGLEYS]

My mother was in the middle of sorting a deal out on a new Cupra Born V2 eBoost, she had 3 dealers offer her one for £28500 in the colour she wanted.. she re-approached them post gov't grant being clarified and getting that factored in and the entire amount (circa £1500) has been absorbed by the dealer so the car is stlll within £5 of the original £28500 price..

I knew that would happen, completely useless grant that no doubt will have the majority of it going direct to dealers/manufacturers.

Buy a Pre-reg one or nearly new and save even more.

 

[chanjy]

Of course it is, nice easy extra profit for the dealer and people who were going to buy the car anyway still will.

You can see how meaningless it is by the number of manufacturers who are offering their own 'grant' by taking £1500 off the sticker price of non-eligible cars lol.... what a waste of time

 

[b0rn2sk8]

I said it before when the grant was announced and I’ll say it again.

£600m on AC charging infrastructure for those who can’t charge at home would have had a much larger impact of plugging the gap in EV uptake.

The price of the car isn’t the issue.

 

[MrRockliffe]

I said it before when the grant was announced and I’ll say it again.

£600m on AC charging infrastructure for those who can’t charge at home would have had a much larger impact of plugging the gap in EV uptake.

The price of the car isn’t the issue.

I agree with that. Whenever I speak to people about getting an EV, I can't think of a time where the conversation is about the cost of them.

Typically it's about charging times and range. I wouldn't own an EV myself if I couldn't charge it at home as it would be similar cost to a nice diesel but more inconvenient.

 

[Terminal_Boy]

Not only that, the further you get from the transformer, the lower the voltage so their house may be within tolerance even if yours isn’t.

I know folks at the end of a rural spur who get 200-210 Volts on a good day.

 

[pastymuncher]

I said it before when the grant was announced and I’ll say it again.

£600m on AC charging infrastructure for those who can’t charge at home would have had a much larger impact of plugging the gap in EV uptake.

The price of the car isn’t the issue.

While more chargers is a good thing the price that they charge per kWh would make owning a EV pointless unless you are a die hard tree hugger. If you could only charge from public chargers you may as well stick to a ICE powered car as running costs would be similar.

 

[Mysterae_]

I wouldn't own an EV myself if I couldn't charge it at home as it would be similar cost to a nice diesel but more inconvenient.

I totally agree with this. My previous 640D could get 650 miles on a tank of diesel and cost roughly £90 to fill up just once. Compare that to my EV with a range of 300 miles, for the same mileage I'd have to charge twice and I think it would cost more to run depending on the level of extortion price per kWh from the charger company.

It's unlikely they will reduce the VAT on electricity from public chargers even though you pay 5% VAT when charging at home.

When EVs can do 600+ miles per charge it may actually harm the public charging infrastructure. Imagine if the price got so high and the EV community banded together using some sort of app and started renting out their chargers for passing traffic.

 

[Junglist]

I'm going to be without a home charger for a few months but the cost of the SC network is still significantly cheaper than the same petrol costs

 

[Jonnycoupe]

I totally agree with this. My previous 640D could get 650 miles on a tank of diesel and cost roughly £90 to fill up just once. Compare that to my EV with a range of 300 miles, for the same mileage I'd have to charge twice and I think it would cost more to run depending on the level of extortion price per kWh from the charger company.

It's unlikely they will reduce the VAT on electricity from public chargers even though you pay 5% VAT when charging at home.

When EVs can do 600+ miles per charge it may actually harm the public charging infrastructure. Imagine if the price got so high and the EV community banded together using some sort of app and started renting out their chargers for passing traffic.

Imagine? Im signed up to Co-charger and Joosup to offer exactly that.