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Heard back from dealer, modules need replacing, on back order, no ETA. Awesome :( there's some kind of good will being offered by JLR so they're looking into it and coming back to me.

JLR offered 50p per mile good will gesture upto £2,500. Not sure if that is just per mile irrespective of how it is powered - home/ public or just in general.

I have pushed the service centre for a hire car but they're not interested - didn't think they would but worth an ask.

I guess as it's working, I''l have to take it back. Be interesting to see if it's the same answer if it completely dies.
 
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JLR offered 50p per mile good will gesture upto £2,500. Not sure if that is just per mile irrespective of how it is powered - home/ public or just in general.

I have pushed the service centre for a hire car but they're not interested - didn' think they would but worth an ask.

I guess as it's working, I''l have to take it back. Be interesting to see if it's the same answer if it completely dies.
Yeah it's a saga, I also had this and feel your pain. There's a limit of faulty cells where once you reach that they will switch you to a new car or take it back but below that number you're stuck using it at 72% and getting it fixed on JLR's dime. The cells take months to be replaced. Usually it's availability of EV qualified mechanics rather than parts availabilty that's the issue.

Cars will keep going with this issue, it won't die from it usually so it's just an annoyance with range more than anything else.
 
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Guys, after some help.

I have a fully electronic 7 seater Peugeot thing coming in September for the wife.
We both WFH and don’t do a massive amount of miles, it was a good deal so thought why not.
We are in the process of selling our house (it’s not sold; and could be a while before it is).
I decided I would charge the car via a ‘granny’ charger and just plug into a 3 pin outdoor socket. I’m not sure of the cost doing this vs getting an actual charging point, I know you can get tariffs through your energy provider that’ll charge less for charging your car, do I need a charging point for this to be recognised? I’m not against getting one but spending £1k when we could be moving in 6 months doesn’t make much sense. Thoughts? BTW, charging for 20 hours is fine. We would only use the car in the evening each day.
 
Guys, after some help.

I have a fully electronic 7 seater Peugeot thing coming in September for the wife.
We both WFH and don’t do a massive amount of miles, it was a good deal so thought why not.
We are in the process of selling our house (it’s not sold; and could be a while before it is).
I decided I would charge the car via a ‘granny’ charger and just plug into a 3 pin outdoor socket. I’m not sure of the cost doing this vs getting an actual charging point, I know you can get tariffs through your energy provider that’ll charge less for charging your car, do I need a charging point for this to be recognised? I’m not against getting one but spending £1k when we could be moving in 6 months doesn’t make much sense. Thoughts? BTW, charging for 20 hours is fine. We would only use the car in the evening each day.
No you can get the same deal through the granny charger from most companies. I’d not install one until you get your new place!
 
You can change to an EV tariff and use a granny charger, you may be locked out of some dynamic tariffs unless that specific vehicle is compatible (usually need a compatible vehicle or charger that they can control). The dynamic tariffs are usually a slightly better deal but it’s not normally loads better.

Whether it was worth it or not, you’d have to do the maths as the day rate is usually slightly higher on an EV tariff.

Just use the 3pin and not worry about it until you move. The difference in cost is 2-3p/mile to 6-9p/mile on price cap. Yes it’s >3 times more expensive but if the number of miles you do is small then it’s not loads in £££.

For the sake of the grid, just avoid charging it between 4pm and 8pm
 
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Are you being serious with that remark?! It's 2kW :confused:
If everyone took that view, we’d have a rather large problem….

Not sure what the issue is here, there is already irrefutable evidence that flat rate electricity is contributing to the evening peak we have in the U.K. and therefore the cost of electricity in the U.K.

At the end of the day, hardly anyone knows the real price of electricity changes every 30 mins and the price at 5.30pm can be dramatically different to the price at 11am and 9pm. If they were exposed to the real cost between 4.30pm and 7pm people would think twice about running the washing machine at 5pm, the dishwasher at 6.30pm after having dinner and charging their car as soon as they talk in through the door.
 
If everyone took that view, we’d have a rather large problem….

Not sure what the issue is here, there is already irrefutable evidence that flat rate electricity is contributing to the evening peak we have in the U.K. and therefore the cost of electricity in the U.K.

At the end of the day, hardly anyone knows the real price of electricity changes every 30 mins and the price at 5.30pm can be dramatically different to the price at 11am and 9pm. If they were exposed to the real cost between 4.30pm and 7pm people would think twice about running the washing machine at 5pm, the dishwasher at 6.30pm after having dinner and charging their car as soon as they talk in through the door.
But it's not everyone, it's one person for a finite period of time for a very valid and specific reason. I would assume as it's free to do so they would probably swap to a regular cheap off rate tariff such as Octopus Go and aim to max out the cheap hours.

I often charge my PHEV between 17:45 and 20:00. I don't do it for fun, I do it because I want electric miles in the tank to head out again that evening. Does that make me a bad person?

The peak is there because people need to be using that electricity at that time, no one is burning kWh for fun. Which then leaves a bit of load shifting but if there is no incentive to do so you can't blame people for wanting to get a wash on and tumble dry it then get it put away before bed instead of stretching the process out over two days. Even with a 20p/kWh incentive I often can't be bothered with dealing with creased up clothes by running the washing machine/drier overnight.
 
Octopus decided they could get mates rates units to justify IOG unit prices - we'll see what deal Musk energy rocks up with.
[ could look at the elexon auctions to see what auction prices the early evening units actually cost - pity chatgpt is a bit dumb to do that kind of instant analysis ]

e: yes can see how much octopu are gettinh paid when they give away free energy LOL
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I see Hyundai UK are offering a fix for the remote hack to stop people unlocking and driving off with the car. The only thing is the customer has to pay £49 for the privilege of a secure vehicle. They dont give much info about what it does, but would be interesting if they guaranteed it against theft that way and/or reduced insurance premium. They have a reg/vin checker to see if you can have the optional update.
 
So you don't care about cost but you care about cost?
Up to £3.84 a day fuel saving versus a whopping 18p saving per 40 degree wash cycle.

Where there is zero downside (i.e. dishwasher) I'll run it off peak. But clothes washing, nope.

Edit, as for charging during peak. It's neither here nor there with cost so why not run as many miles as I can using electricity?
 
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I see Hyundai UK are offering a fix for the remote hack to stop people unlocking and driving off with the car. The only thing is the customer has to pay £49 for the privilege of a secure vehicle. They dont give much info about what it does, but would be interesting if they guaranteed it against theft that way and/or reduced insurance premium. They have a reg/vin checker to see if you can have the optional update.

What’s the issue and any links? I ask as I have a 2020 Kona.
 
I have a 10 year old VW Polo i had from new, i wanted to go Electric for my next car but where i live there is very little prospect of a charger (flat/non-allocated space) so really need to buy a house with potential charging.

The house is probably still a little ways away and things are starting to get old on the Polo. I keep flip flopping between getting an Electric car and putting up with public charging and all its inconveniences, sticking with the polo into bangernomics territory or getting a new petrol that i dont really want.

Any new car will eat into house funds too which are in border line territory anyway.

Would like to hear EV discussions thoughts and feelings
 
Had the email to reorder for my IPACE. Obviously no more Jags so I’ll decide what I do over my holiday now. BEV life will be taking a pause for me after 5 years, I might get a quote for the car to buy it for interest.
 
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