The Beatles

Thekwango said:
Be a lonely death hoss, I reckon it’d just be you the op and a few mentalists. Be wiser to just lie and say, aye they’re ok :p
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Ha! Chuck Berry, Thelonious Monk, and Little Richard were breaking the mould and inventing revolutionary music before The Beatles!
The Beatles are just the 'peoples safe bet' for idiots who don't know anything about music, but want to herd together in a safety net to fit in with what's popular on the radio.
I'd rather be sat on an empty hill, than sat with a bunch of sheep trying to 'fit in' who lack their own personality/taste/style...
 
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deviation said:
I'd rather be on an empty hill than be sat with a bunch of sheep trying to 'fit in'...
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You say that now, give it half an hour with the op and I reckon you’d be rocking a mop top and speaking in a scouse accent just to get off the hill. :p

I wholeheartedly agree with your view on chuck berry and co. by the way. But i wholeheartedly disagree the Beatles were the most over hyped group ever or only popular with idiots etc. Seems a bit harsh the last bit.
 
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Some of the Beatles well known songs are twee and grating, but for every one of those there is also something special… even in similar styles.

Stand outs for me outside of their ‘major hits’ are, off the top of my head:

Helter Skelter
All My Life
Tomorrow Never Knows
Back in the USSR
I Want You (She’s so Heavy)
Oh! Darling
I’ll Be Back

I also absolutely love this remix they put out of Being for the Benefit of Mr. Kite and She’s So Heavy… the ending from around 1:45 sounds so heavy, messed-up and dark… it ****ing slaps.

 
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Thekwango said:
I wholeheartedly agree with your view on chuck berry
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In 1980 I played in his backing band but never met him :(
His tour Manager said "You'll be waiting on stage, Chuck will turn to you, say the song name and the key and you will play it" and that was it.
Half way through a song he turned round and made us finish then walked off, we thought we'd upset him.
We found out later he looks at his watch and as soon as an hour is up he walks off :)
It was one of the greatest nights of my life.
 
To be honest, even though I've always been a huge Stones fan, even they've lost their edge for me.

They've kind of become the establishment now and attending any of their gigs (sponsored by Mastercard) is a far cry from when I first saw them in '82.

In fact, last time I saw them in Sweden in 2017, the crowd were so boring that everyone around me was wearing earplugs.

I'm more of the opinion now that The Who were the best band of the 60s & 70s. Sadly, I never got to see them though.
 
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That Jekka Gal said:
To be honest, even though I've always been a huge Stones fan, even they've lost their edge for me.

They've kind of become the establishment now and attending any of their gigs (sponsored by Mastercard) is a far cry from when I first saw them in '82.

Inbfact, last time I saw them in Sweden in 2017, the crowd were so boring that everyone around me wax wearing earplugs.

I'm more of the opinion now that The Who were the best band of the 60s & 70s. Sadly, I never got to see them though.
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I saw The Stones in 1976 at Bingley Hall and wished I sold my ticket to a bloke who was offering £200 at the time.
It was one of the worst concerts I've ever been to, there was virtually no rock n roll music I remember and the night seemed to be full of black music.
When we walked in the PA was playing soul, the support act was soul, interval music was soul and The Stones were on their 'Fool To Cry' period.
I've got nothing against soul, I regularly go to Soul Nights but I didn't expect it from them, like going to see Slayer play folk music..

I saw the Who twice there, once with Keith Moon and another time with Kenny Jones and both times they were bloody awesome.
Thinking about it you are probably right, they were the greatest "60s" live band.
 
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Thekwango said:
You say that now, give it half an hour with the op and I reckon you’d be rocking a mop top and speaking in a scouse accent just to get off the hill. :p

I wholeheartedly agree with your view on chuck berry and co. by the way. But i wholeheartedly disagree the Beatles were the most over hyped group ever or only popular with idiots etc. Seems a bit harsh the last bit.
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Haha :P
Yep, and the aforementioned, were around first, and invented music that didn't exist :D
Fair enough mate, anyone can like whatever they want. They're just not for me :)
 
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deviation said:
Haha :P
Yep, and the aforementioned, were around first, and invented music that didn't exist :D
Fair enough mate, anyone can like whatever they want. They're just not for me :)
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I can understand a young person listening to The Beatles and going "WTF these changed the entire history of pop/rock music, are you serious, what crap mundane songs?" but you weren't there at the time.
My Dad had been playing in bands from 1956 so he'd been playing Rock n Roll, Rock type ballads of the day by Chuck Berry, Elvis, Johnny Burnette, Little Richard etc and that was his music.
In 1961 virtually everybody in the country sat down and watched the London Palladium on a Sunday evening so at that point my Dad had never heard The Beatles, there was no Spotify or You Tube.
The Beatles came on and the whole country was mesmerised, well those who leaned that way and the rest saying 'What a load of rubbish'.

My musical religious moment was in 1971, I had been playing all 50s/60s music in my Dads band from the age of 12 but in 1971 a friend played two bands to me that would change my life forever - Led Zeppelin and Black Sabbath.
Again I understand a young person listening to them and not understanding the hype these bands had but you had to be there.
Nobody forced anybody to like The Beatles and nobody forced me to like Zeppelin or Sabbath.

There must have been in a moment in your life that you heard somebody for the first time and it changed your life.

Funnily enough this morning I started a documentary on The Cavern where it was Jazz Club and if artists came in and did a Rock N Roll song they would have their wages docked.
Things changed and they could play Rock N Roll all the set but most of these bands were bland probably like my Dad's bands at the time.
By the time The Beatles played there they were a full package and gobsmacked everybody.
It was for the times.
 
The Stones up to Goats Head Soup, approx early seventies, were very good if not great, later a few duff efforts. The Beatles, most of their career were great, Sgt Peppers and Abbey Road were brilliant but all albums were good. The sound on my Hard Days Night vinyl is still epic.
 
Nothing wrong with disliking them at all. I also think they're pretty naff and wouldn't waste my time listening to them but one mans rubbish is another mans gold, or something.

I think people forget music is hiiiiiiiiiiiiighly subjective and you're not under any obligation to like music, especially from previous generations.
 
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