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C Kent said:
We pressed exactly the same in the vast majority of gsmes last season. An out if possession press isn't a 442 :cry:
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No we didn't. Our wide players stayed in their positions and Szoboszlai pushed alongside the striker. That's not what we done on Friday. We moved into a diamond in midfield with Gakpo dropping into midfield. That wasn't just how we pressed, it was how we defended full stop. Salah barely came back at all (even more so than last season) and it was Szoboszlai in the right sided 6/8 role covering the RB rather than from the 10 role.

There was a clear change in our set-up from last season.
 
Shamikebab said:
And Sancho has rejected Roma. Probably waiting for a loan to Dortmund or something. Definitely the most hated player to ever play for us.
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Honestly I think hes a massive **** but we were the idiots who dealt him this lovely hand so I try not to worry about it too much. Ultimately hes going to have a **** career for his talent level and I wouldn't be surprised if a man of his intellect and wisdom doesn't end up with a wealthy retirement from football.
 
inogen said:
I believe Isak when he says he won't play for Newcastle again.

Sweden are playing 6 times before the winter transfer window. He'll play all of them and that's enough to keep enough fitness and keep his place in the Sweden line-up.

We might see the highest profile invocation of the Webster ruling. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Webster_ruling
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We'd need approx 21-22 Million quid from him upfront for that to happen, and you'd know any source of funds would be scrutinized forensically.

C Kent said:
You should just pay what Brentford want instead of lowballing and unsettling the player ;)
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ah but if you see the bit about "talks continuing", it actually means we're at the table - unlike Liverpool who say that they're thinking of bidding, maybe - possibly.
 
montymint said:
We'd need approx 21-22 Million quid from him upfront for that to happen, and you'd know any source of funds would be scrutinized forensically.
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He should get a loan from pif :cry:
montymint said:
ah but if you see the bit about "talks continuing", it actually means we're at the table - unlike Liverpool who say that they're thinking of bidding, maybe - possibly.
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we're waiting on you lot to pull your thumbs out of your ass an actually sign a striker. Just pay what Brentford want, afterall thats what you folks are saying about Liverpool & isak no?
 
inogen said:
I believe Isak when he says he won't play for Newcastle again.

Sweden are playing 6 times before the winter transfer window. He'll play all of them and that's enough to keep enough fitness and keep his place in the Sweden line-up.

We might see the highest profile invocation of the Webster ruling. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Webster_ruling
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Unless clubs want to wreck their value and the transfer market that won’t happen.

Everything will come crashing down.
 
inogen said:
I think Alexander Isak would find it quite easy to borrow 22m quid. Not to mention his agent.
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Really? £22m? Unsecured? Who on earth is lending that? And who's paying the interest? At 5%, that's about £1m of interest a year. And it wouldn't be loaned at 5% unsecured, it's an insanely risky loan.
 
inogen said:
I doubt very much Liverpool would be encouraging him to do it, never mind providing the funds. His agent on the other hand...
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Also won’t push it. They get a cut of the transfer fees etc. The PL even have a transfer levy around 5%

If a high level player with a commanding transfer fee does it. It’s game over.
 
manic111 said:
Really? £22m? Unsecured? Who on earth is lending that? And who's paying the interest? At 5%, that's about £1m of interest a year. And it wouldn't be loaned at 5% unsecured, it's an insanely risky loan.
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It's the equivalent of someone on an average salary getting a 20k loan.

I know virtually none of this highly liquid, but Isak has a net work of about £25m https://salarysport.com/football/player/alexander-isak/

I'm pretty sure his agent will be worth much more than that.
 
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inogen said:
I doubt very much Liverpool would be encouraging him to do it, never mind providing the funds. His agent on the other hand...
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Where's his agent getting £20m from? And why? Do you really think that the Isak deal would be sufficiently lucrative for him to fund it and make a significant profit on?
 
inogen said:
It's the equivalent of someone on an average salary getting a 20k loan.
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Someone on an average salary is likely to be earning that salary for 30 years, not 5. They're much less likely to lose form or favour and be sold a year later, and suddenly have that salary cut in half.

And regardless of who it is, to any financial institution £20k is not much risk. £22m is a vast risk.
 
manic111 said:
Really? £22m? Unsecured? Who on earth is lending that? And who's paying the interest? At 5%, that's about £1m of interest a year. And it wouldn't be loaned at 5% unsecured, it's an insanely risky loan.
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There’s numerous boutique lenders that work in the sports world that would lend him the money. The interest rate would be much higher but it would be over a short period with the player receiving more than double from his new club in those circumstances.

It’s an entirely pointless discussion though as there’s not a cat in hells chance Liverpool or another major club would sign him under those circumstances. No major club supports players buying out their contracts, in fact Liverpool and the old g14 clubs actually funded the lower league Scandinavian(?) clubs legal bills when this case was first brought years ago.
 
BaZ87 said:
There’s numerous boutique lenders that work in the sports world that would lend him the money. The interest rate would be much higher but it would be over a short period with the player receiving more than double from his new club in those circumstances.

It’s an entirely pointless discussion though as there’s not a cat in hells chance Liverpool or another major club would sign him under those circumstances. No major club supports players buying out their contracts, in fact Liverpool and the old g14 clubs actually funded the lower league Scandinavian(?) clubs legal bills when this case was first brought years ago.
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Really? As in, lending that quantity to players?

I'd get it if it was a loan to a club capable of being secured, but loaning that sum to an individual with a carer which is by its nature limited in time and unclear in earning potential (significant injury, form, favour, club finances necessitating a sale etc) seems unfathomable to me. Genuinely interested in when/ on what circumstances such a loan may be made.

As you say, it's moot anyway, but I'm interested!

Edit: Just to add to this - this is funding money to Isak to pay to Newcastle. So for the scenario to make sense, he needs to make enough money out of the move to Liverpool to pay off the loan and interest, while presumably maintaining at the very least his current lifestyle. So let's say he moves for £300k and is currently on £150k. Realistically, the loan repayments and servicing come out of his "extra" £150k (which is before tax), and that's presuming he's comfortable to see no wage increase at all for the move.
 
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