Rail fares increasing again

I still find it crazy that a single day commute can cost the same as a tank of fuel, and there are routes that are easily double that.
 
Scotrail are scrapping peak fares again as of 1st September which is nice.
They're certainly not perfect and have plenty of issues but it's nice to get poor service a little cheaper!
 
I've read all sorts of crazy travel 'hacks', like flying to Iceland then Liverpool, being cheaper than the damn train
 
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Train ticket for us is £38.10 from Godalming to Waterloo return.

My sister in law pays £25 for a weekly unlimited travel card in Germany.
I have friends who live west of London; you’re paying £80 for peak return to Paddington. What’s that? 4 PS5s a month?
 
A return to Manchester is over £10 a day for me. I only have to be in the office 3 days a week so there’s no point buying week, month or year season tickets because you don’t break even. I cycle instead. It’s cheaper and more reliable than the useless trains. It takes me an hour each way, but that’s still quicker than waiting for cancelled trains…

Bus tickets are nice and cheap (thanks Andy Burnham) but the ride is so bad you’ll have your fillings shaken loose.
 
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So me and some friends are planning to go to Manchester next month, we are now living across the country and all trying to work out the best way and cheapest way.

My ticket from Herefordshire cost £75 return except Sunday, the way we leave, there is a bus replacement service
A friend coming up from near Brighton, £150 return.
There are friends coming up from Essex too.

Car parking £40 at QPark next to the Piccadilly station, I can even pre-book. Even with my thirsty car it would cost me like perhaps £80-90. Going to split it with a friend to share the drive and save a bunch. The one coming up from Brighton also going to drive.
 
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Does make you wonder when something's gonna snap.

Water all knackered and expensive.
Electricity expensive.
Travel all knackered and hilariously expensive.
Cost of living in general going mental.
Shrinkflation a real problem.

At what point do we go all Tram and start moving to Spain and whinging all the time (like this)?
 
At what point do we go all Tram and start moving to Spain and whinging all the time (like this)?

Give it a few years. Farage will worm his way into power somehow and everything will go back to rose tinted pre WWII times. Polio, indentured slavery, rampant landlordism. Open up those workhouses. Smashing
 
Our infrastructure is a metaphor for the state of the country. Tired, expensive, and in dire need of modernisation.
 
Give it a few years. Farage will worm his way into power somehow and everything will go back to rose tinted pre WWII times. Polio, indentured slavery, rampant landlordism. Open up those workhouses. Smashing

So your options are either get absolutely shafted from every direction or suffer polio?

Nothing in-between?

Interesting view. I like to think there's a middle ground somewhere, like "let's try provide value for our customers instead of ******* them over as much as we can" - like we did a decade ago. Does this option not exist in your world?
 
Have you guys had enough rable rousing for one day yet?

There is nothing but speculation in the article, the government have not confirmed how they will calculate fare increases for next year and will not until the end of the year. IIRC they have done it differently every year for the last few years.
 
Train ticket for us is £38.10 from Godalming to Waterloo return.
for a single return im 38.70, im not far you :/
with 47.40 being the most for a return.
i usually get a season ticket though as im in office 5 days so it works out at something like 22

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just saw this was a very old post that got necrod
would a new thread have been better?
 
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It really pays off to get Advance train tickets booked months in advance and look at the split-ticketing websites.

We desperately need the whole UK rail service re-nationalised.

A good chunk of the annual ticket increases we've had for the last ~30 years since privitisation have been due to overseas "investment" in our network, gouging lots of profit here, to make tickets cheaper back home.
 
Train ticket for us is £38.10 from Godalming to Waterloo return.
Absolute joke, especially if you consider that distance.

Honestly, folks are better off doing a CBT and getting a decent bike/scooter than paying for a season ticket with a kidney.
 
British rail was carp, expensive and often didnt work. Now we will have Great British rail which be carp, expensive and often won't work.
Change? Well train drivers now earn about £70k per annum.
 
A return to Manchester is over £10 a day for me. I only have to be in the office 3 days a week so there’s no point buying week, month or year season tickets because you don’t break even. I cycle instead. It’s cheaper and more reliable than the useless trains. It takes me an hour each way, but that’s still quicker than waiting for cancelled trains…

Bus tickets are nice and cheap (thanks Andy Burnham) but the ride is so bad you’ll have your fillings shaken loose.

No access to the tram network? I'm only a handful of stops from St Peters square so I think that costs me £3.60 for a peak return. Much cheaper than the train.

So me and some friends are planning to go to Manchester next month, we are now living across the country and all trying to work out the best way and cheapest way.

My ticket from Herefordshire cost £75 return except Sunday, the way we leave, there is a bus replacement service
A friend coming up from near Brighton, £150 return.
There are friends coming up from Essex too.

Car parking £40 at QPark next to the Piccadilly station, I can even pre-book. Even with my thirsty car it would cost me like perhaps £80-90. Going to split it with a friend to share the drive and save a bunch. The one coming up from Brighton also going to drive.

For that distance you're almost always going to be better driving. It's no different for us in reverse if we were to get the train down to London, non 1st class ticket returns will be around £100-200 per person.

It would probably be cheaper to fly if it weren't for the additional cost of getting from the airport into London. It's practically made the train unaffordable for most, but also those who can afford it are also put off the price when compared to driving.
 
British rail was carp, expensive and often didnt work. Now we will have Great British rail which be carp, expensive and often won't work.
Change? Well train drivers now earn about £70k per annum.
Are you dunking on staff for still have good union protection/representation and ensuring they get pay rises? We should be aspiring to pull everyone up, not dragging people back down...
 
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