Rail fares increasing again

Well inflation is hot. RPI came out at 4.8%. So if they follow the previous July RPI + 1% you are looking at a 5.8% increase.
 
In the years prior to that when inflation was really hot they made up their own number instead.

That said, I just checked and they still went up 5.9% (RPI at the time was 12.3%), alleging it was ‘capped’.

While convention is RPI+1%, it’s ultimately up to treasury and DfT ministers (the treasury will have the final say) what the number will be and they have the power to use what ever number they want.
 
bingham67 said:
Cost me nearly £40 return to London and back it crazy costs these days.
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£38.10 here, day return. Then another £7 on the tube in London. I do this twice a week, the tube every day.

My family in various European countries spend less than my daily rate on travel for a month, and they can travel anywhere in the country.

The absolute fleecing we get in this country is not sustainable.
 
£40? that's cheap!

It's £115 here and I'm still in comuting distance.... you can get some advanced tickets mind but you are then on timed trains.
 
So have the prices officially been held or increased? My train was £37.50 but is now £42 which is 12% more, which goes against what I’ve been reading.

Pebkac- rather than delete I’ll own it. Just checking wrong dates/times. Derrrrr.
 
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Kol said:
So have the prices officially been held or increased? My train was £37.50 but is now £42 which is 12% more, which goes against what I’ve been reading.

Pebkac- rather than delete I’ll own it. Just checking wrong dates/times. Derrrrr.
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Regulated fares have been held so that’s anytime single/returns and season tickets.

Unregulated fares like timed train advance single tickets are not held and subject to dynamic pricing anyway.
 
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Prices seem the same for me on South Western Railway. i.e. A rip off. Costs me also over £40 a day commute.
 
For the 1 or 2 days a week I go in the increase will be around £1.20 per day into London. I guess it could be worse.

Price increases set for March apparently
 
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Sounds like London only prices. It’s £3.50 to travel from anywhere in the suburbs to central Manchester which isn’t super excessive although it could be cheaper still.
 
Terminal_Boy said:
I suspected as much.

I see that that Zone 1-6 monthly TfL travel card has gone from £220 to £312 in the 7 years I’ve been away.
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To give you an idea, I catch a train to work twice a week. There and back, two trains a day. I started this job on the 1st of December, and I've caught in total 12 trains so far.

Two of them were on time.

Two were cancelled outright.

Absolute dumpster fire.
 
Diddums said:
To give you an idea, I catch a train to work twice a week. There and back, two trains a day. I started this job on the 1st of December, and I've caught in total 12 trains so far.

Two of them were on time.

Two were cancelled outright.

Absolute dumpster fire.
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Which TOC is that? (Train Operating Company).

I used to commute into London 4/5 days a week. If COVID hadn't happened and changed the amount we wfh, I wouldn't still be grinding 4/5 days a week. No chance. I do 2 a week now. I tend to go in late off peak if possible. I'm South Western Railway and I would say generally speaking the service has remained generally the same over the last 10 years. When it works it's generally ok. When you have one seemingly minor issue, everything gets wrecked. When you have a major issue, you genuinely have to find a new way home sometimes. Been stranded in London many a time and have to go a whacky route to get home.

I would say the biggest thing I've seen change which affects me, is that they aim to use the minimum number of carriages in a train as possible. So the trains I used to get that were 12 car trains, became 8. The ones that used to be 8 they try to get away with 4, which means it's busier and harder to get a seat. That's annoying when you travel in later for it to be less busy. It's why there's now a sot of goldilocks train that's not too late or too early.
 
jaybee said:
Which TOC is that? (Train Operating Company).
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Train delays/cancellations are seldom fault of the TOC in my experience.

I’ve had about 20 delay repays over the last year and only 1-3 of them were a train fault and I’ve not had any delays/cancellations due to a staffing issue for a long time now.

I’d put strike action in the ‘not a TOC issue’ bucket as their pay is set by the government.

The rest were in order of frequency:
Person vs train
Track/signalling/electric wires fault - some of these were due to Neanderthal’s stealing the signalling cables :rolleyes:
Trespassing on tracks
Broken down freight train
TOC issue.
 
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