Ultimate AMD 9950

Mark Ware

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So my existing 9900k is due and upgrade being some 7 years old.

Money no object build list.

CPU 9950x

As rock nova motherboard? No WiFi less version ?

AIO suggestions ? Was going noctua air but won’t fit in Evo case.

RAM 64gb of? Confused on speeds vs timing - thoughts please.

Have 2x gen 4 nvme Samsung drives.

Gfx is currently a rtx 4080 but may upgrade later if needs be.

Screen res G sync LG @ 3440x1400 again may upgrade.

Thoughts or suggestions welcomed please, it’s been a while.
 
Mark Ware said:
Money no object build list.
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What do you use the PC for?

Mark Ware said:
As rock nova motherboard? No WiFi less version ?
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Do you care about USB4? What LAN speed is needed?

Do you plan to add more M.2 drives in the future, on top of the 2 you already have?

Mark Ware said:
So my existing 9900k is due and upgrade being some 7 years old.
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If gaming primarily, which games are you having the most trouble with or not getting sufficient FPS?
 
Thanks for the reply.

90% gaming - some audio video editing that might increase.

USB 4? Well don’t having anything that uses it at the moment but I’m guessing future proofing makes sense?

LAN wise it’s connected via optical cable that’s doing 10gb atm

M.2 will be a max of two as I’ll upgrade as I go along. I do have spare 1tb ones kicking about but don’t want the extra storage to make the rest of the pc suffer.

FPS wise on ultimate, fps games tend to suffer frame rates. Bf6 killed it totally, although that’s a beta of course.

Hope that makes sense.
 
Mark Ware said:
LAN wise it’s connected via optical cable that’s doing 10gb atm
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Hmm, the Nova is not 10Gb. You can find a spreadsheet linked in this thread to help find some 10Gb boards (it has been updated):

I must say though, 10Gb boards aren't cheap, whereas 5Gb boards are more affordable (MSI have 5Gb on most of their range).

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USB 4? Well don’t having anything that uses it at the moment but I’m guessing future proofing makes sense?
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It does and it doesn't. USB4 has drawbacks in terms of lane sharing on AMD, so it can actually be more of a nuisance if you're never going to use it.

The Nova doesn't have this problem because it only has 1x CPU connected M.2 slot (USB4 steals the other lanes on most boards) and doesn't try to provide more than 1x PCI-E 5.0 M.2 slot.

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M.2 will be a max of two as I’ll upgrade as I go along. I do have spare 1tb ones kicking about but don’t want the extra storage to make the rest of the pc suffer.
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In that case, B850 would be sufficient, though you're unlikely to get 10Gb LAN or USB4 on a B850 board.

Mark Ware said:
CPU 9950x
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Mark Ware said:
90% gaming - some audio video editing that might increase.
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For 90% gaming I'd be getting the 9800X3D, because that will give you the best uplift in FPS and better framerate consistency.

The non-X3D CPUs are still decent at gaming, but the 9950X is really meant for to be used for a heavy productivity load, not 90% gaming.

The 9950X3D would give you the best of both worlds, albeit costly. The rumour is that the next-gen (e.g. 10800X3D) CPU will have 12 cores on a single CCD (9950X3D is 8 with 3D cache, 8 without), that would be a great mixed usage CPU.
 
Thanks for the reply, again.

I actually run the asus xgc100f for the optical link, not sure if that’s a good thing to use in the new setup?

Guess no eta on the next gen of cpu either yet.

Any thoughts on the ram and cooling on this too?

Thanks once more
 
64 gig of ram is pointless for gamng but may be used if your video editing.

Which Evo case are you using so we can see what radiator size will fit in it.

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Mark Ware said:
I actually run the asus xgc100f for the optical link, not sure if that’s a good thing to use in the new setup?
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No, that's fine, saves you needing to buy a pricey motherboard. The only snag is, you need to make sure it has a PCI-E slot that supports the card and doesn't have lane sharing with the M.2 slots that you need.
 
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Thanks, dumb question I know but how would I check ?
I’ll be using 2 of the m.2 slots on the asrock nova board…
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This video explains a lot of boards:

Another way is the manual, the tech specs can miss stuff out sometimes.

A friendly warning: making sure you have a PCIE slot free with enough lanes and far enough from the graphics card is often not as easy as you'd think!
 
The other consideration is if our going for an X3D cpu then you NEED to AVOID Asrock ATM. They have a much bigger x3d failure rate thhan any other motherboard manufacturer ATM due to bios issues. They claim to have fixed it but I just am not happy to reccomend asrock to any potential x3d owner atm just incase they havent completely fixed the issue yet.

In the end its your final choice but I want to anke you aware of the potential issue.
 
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