Is this the unraveling of CyclingMikey?

Diddums said:
wtf kind of world do you live in man :cry:
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I kept looking in the mirror. When I was about 20 meters ahead, I turned left with the car. Someone walked onto the road while I was halfway through the turn, so I stopped. They continued cycling down, then stopped in front of the car and started waving their hands, signaling that I was halfway through the left turn. so damn retarded and they even argue about it, all because they had to stop.
 
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Richie said:
The slow-mo is good for extra details (see below) but it does alter the whole speed element which is required for other parts (the movement done by Mikey)

My take:
  • He is pushing his bike out with his left hand on the handlebar and, I presume, his other hand on the saddle (hard to tell but the slow mo seems to indicate this)
  • As he moves forward, he stops to prevent the car from hitting him
  • As he stops/moves back, he takes his hand off the handlebar but continues to push the bike forward using the saddle.
  • The disputed "push" is likely coming from the fact that, as he lets go of the handlebars, the bike continues forward and, when hit, you can see his right hand moving forward and up.
Its the last point that's important - why did his right hand/arm act in that way. Was it because he pushed the bike using his left hand on the saddle and into the path of the car (effectively a throw), or did the movement of the bike being hit cause his hand/arm to move like that. Why did his bike continue moving forward, quite considerably, when he stopped/potentially moved back.

Given his other, well documented escapades, my feeling is the former (pushed bike into path thinking the car would stop)
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yer he learnt a lesson he has to buy a new bike, and people wioll not see him for till he gets a new one.
 
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Tram said:
I kept looking in the mirror. When I was about 20 meters ahead, I turned left with the car. Someone walked onto the road while I was halfway through the turn, so I stopped. They continued cycling down, then stopped in front of the car and started waving their hands, signaling that I was halfway through the left turn. so damn retarded and they even argue about it, all because they had to stop.
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So you turned despite a pedestrian crossing the road, and a cyclist was coming up from the left, and it's their fault? Are you aware that in your scenario the cyclist had right of way?
 
Diddums said:
So you turned despite a pedestrian crossing the road, and a cyclist was coming up from the left, and it's their fault? Are you aware that in your scenario the cyclist had right of way?
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LOL, so if you stop halfway through a turn, as some pedestrian decides to cross and the bike sees it but doesn’t stop, keeps going forward and then the rider complains. it is the cars fault? did you not read whai i said,
 
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SexyGreyFox said:
Don't be silly we motorists pay a special road tax so we are always in the right.
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I don't get it. If you're approaching a junction wanting to turn left, and there's a ped crossing, shirley the first thing you do is check your mirrors to see what's what, and then decide what to do? Not get halfway around the corner knowing there's a cyclist approaching, and just hope for the best?

Situational awareness doesn't seem to be his forte. Or decision making.
 
Tram said:
LOL, so if you stop halfway through a turn, as some pedestrian decides to cross and the bike sees it but doesn’t stop, keeps going forward and then the rider complains. it is the cars fault?
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Did this pedestrian suddenly beam in from another dimension? Were they hiding behind a wall and suddenly jumped in to the middle of the road when you decided to take the corner? Or were they there all along and you either missed them, or made a poor judgement?
 
Diddums said:
I don't get it. If you're approaching a junction wanting to turn left, and there's a ped crossing, shirley the first thing you do is check your mirrors to see what's what, and then decide what to do? Not get halfway around the corner knowing there's a cyclist approaching, and just hope for the best?

Situational awareness doesn't seem to be his forte. Or decision making.
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u didn’t get it a pedestrian decides to walk onto the road while you’re turning, and the bike is still 20 meters away. I there are three entities pedestrian, bike, and car.
 
most people are angry because it was someone with a bicycle.


shouldnt be going the wrong way down a one way street... what if someone sees the sign, only looks one way and then gets ran over by some moron?
 
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Diddums said:
id this pedestrian suddenly beam in from another dimension? Were they hiding behind a wall and suddenly jumped in to the middle of the road when you decided to take the corner? Or were they there all along and you either missed them, or made a poor judgement?
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Yes, people don’t stop on the curve anymore they just dont stop and look anymore, they cross without signaling the driver. I guess you don’t drive
 
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arknor said:
most people are angry because it was someone with a bicycle.


shouldnt be going the wrong way down a one way street... what if someone sees the sign, only looks one way and then gets ran over by some moron?
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No, most cyclists are a pain, they dont break and they are very agressive, they cycle talking on the phone and they dont really know how to cycle.
 
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Diddums said:
I don't get it. If you're approaching a junction wanting to turn left, and there's a ped crossing, shirley the first thing you do is check your mirrors to see what's what, and then decide what to do? Not get halfway around the corner knowing there's a cyclist approaching, and just hope for the best?

Situational awareness doesn't seem to be his forte. Or decision making.
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I have seen motorists argue the toss with the Police when it concerns a cyclist which was usually me before I stayed out of the way.
This is the honest truth with one incident, I'd been knocked over by a left hook witnessed by a Copper in Stoke Town Centre, the driver was arguing the toss about how she has every right to do that to me.
Meanwhile a bloke on the other side of the road who didn't witness it walked past and shouted "It was the cyclists fault" so the Copper asked him why and he shouted back "because he's a cyclist" :)
In that first year I had loads of incidents and footage but I stay out of the way as much as I can now because you can't argue with a motorist who think they have a divine right over you to be on the road.
I'll even use pavements where I know there is zero chance of hitting a pedestrian, example before somebody calls me a dirty rotten none road tax paying lycra clad nuisance - https://www.google.com/maps/@52.987...try=ttu&g_ep=EgoyMDI1MDgxOS4wIKXMDSoASAFQAw==
 
Tram said:
Yes, people don’t stop on the curve anymore they just dont stop and look anymore, cross without signaling the driver. I guess you don’t drive
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I drive 80 miles a day in to central London. When parked up I use Lime bikes to get around, and I probably do around 50 miles a week on those so I'm fairly well versed in idiot anticipation.

Still surprised you managed to make it halfway around a corner without seeing a pedestrian.
 
Tram said:
Yes, people don’t stop on the curve anymore they just dont stop and look anymore, they cross without signaling the driver. I guess you don’t drive
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Usually just step out looking at their phones I find, with no real indication of where they are going or checking first.

You can still get run over on a crossing but as we all know, since about 2000 people are being born without common sense.

The number of people being run over by trams has increased ffs. There are hardly any in the country and you'd have to be very oblivious to not see one coming.
 
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Nasher said:
Usually just step out looking at their phones I find, with no real indication of where they are going or checking first.

You can still get run over on a crossing but as we all know, since about 2000 people are being born without common sense.

The number of people being run over by trams has increased ffs. There are hardly any in the country and you'd have to be very oblivious to not see one coming.
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Yes without common senseis a big problem these days,
 
Penfold101 said:
While I can’t condone his actions of leaving the scene or going through the no-entry sign, the fact there was some crazed muppet covered in go-pro’s stepping out in front on his car and throwing an expensive bike at him probably influenced his decision to say “**** this, I’m out” and worry about the consequences later.
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Yep and the consequences of going through a temporary no entry sign is likely less severe than throwing a bike in to a car's path.

Just saw this: https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/20...te-who-pushed-bike-in-front-of-car-was-break/

So far no complaints made (likely because that would backfire on him), driver wasn't arrested or fined. Car apparently just had a scratch.
 
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I agree with licences for cyclists on account of their proven track record preventing drivers from ever doing anything stupid or dangerous.
 
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