Poll: AmorIn or AmorOut?

AmorIn or AmorOut?

  • AmorIn

    Votes: 53 70.7%

  • AmorOut

    Votes: 22 29.3%
  • Total voters
    75
mid_gen said:
Disagree. We've got plenty of good players on the pitch, but they are being coached to try and play a system that doesn't work. That's why they are looking lost and frustrated.

No leader on the pitch is going to wave a magic wand and stop our midfield getting swamped and turned over all the time.
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They couldn't play for Ole who basically acquiesced to play counterattack football. They wouldn't play for Rangnick. They couldn't play for Ten Hag who played 4-3-3. How many systems do you wan to try before they like one and can be arsed. They are professional footballers and should be able to adapt, especially as they are supposedly "elite", at least in salary. System, Smystem it's about effort and intensity, giving 100% for every minute of every match. Did the system look flawed against Arsenal who we outplayed?
 
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sigma said:
That's why I asked yesterday, does he need another £600m?
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He or whoever Utd cons into replacing him would need to be able to take a scythe to the player roster. Even if that screws them up for a rapid rebuild because they have to take a bath on a bunch of the players that they brought in for way, way too much and FFP rears its head.

sigma said:
I dunno, I'm not a manager, 4-3-3 is what everyone is saying
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EtH got sacked playing 4-3-3. 4-3-3 with these players is still not going to solve anything.
 
Yeah, Amorim can't get a tune out of these players coaching the only system he knows. Expecting him to be elite level at a completely alien system to him is silly and there is no value to that for anyone. He could limp through the season like that no doubt but he would never get anywhere long term.
 
The problem for Amorim is his record.

If he can't get any points then he'll be the one to go surely?

The other option is to continue and accept relegation as a possibility?
 
mid_gen said:
I think we should carry on what we're doing because it's working so well.
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You either carry on or you sack him, spend another 20m on changing managers and cross your fingers that it works. It's a huge gamble because sacking Amorim doesn't fix the fact we have no keeper, no midfield and can't score goals.
 
For the record (shouldn't all this talk not be in a match day thread) I think he'll stay for now but the results need to improve.

The problem is looking at the next few games it's hard to see where the points come from. Especially with this dodgy keeper situation. Do we go to Heaton?
 
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fez said:
How will he cut out the ******** and sort out the culture. The much vaunted transformation of England that he presided over was just a happy coincidence in my eyes. This isn't 20 years ago when United/Liverpool (I would say Arsenal but did they even have English players back then) all hated each other and the squad balance was a mess. He came in when all the England players were pretty much mates, we had a super strong crop of young and talented players available and some vague sense of balance to the players available.

He then took a bunch of exciting attacking minded players and made them play boring defence first football to scab their way to a couple of finals. Nothing about the man screams transformational or even that he is a good motivator.
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I hope Man U keep clutching at straws and keep doing exactly what the are to be honest. It’s working perfectly for the rest of league, spending a fortune and getting objectively worse season on season.

Roll on the next revamp come Christmas :cool:

Or you could hire a guy who took team beaten by Iceland & universally laughed at into regular semi and finalists. Albeit failing at that final hurdle which is why I said he’d build a good foundation for Man U to be successful from.
 
Calpol said:
They couldn't play for Ole who basically acquiesced to play counterattack football. They wouldn't play for Rangnick. They couldn't play for Ten Hag who played 4-3-3. How many systems do you wan to try before they like one and can be arsed. They are professional footballers and should be able to adapt, especially as they are supposedly "elite", at least in salary. System, Smystem it's about effort and intensity, giving 100% for every minute of every match. Did the system look flawed against Arsenal who we outplayed?
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youve only got 2 players left that played for Solskjaer - Fernandes and Maguire? Apparently you've rooted out the ones with 'bad attitudes' and yet here you all are complaining about the players again.

Tbh, your biggest issues (amorim aside) are goalkeeper and your captain- I still think cunha was bought as the Fernandes replacement, except he then didn't move so you are stuck with a bunch of guys that play in the same position give or take, fernandes isn't a cm and he sure as **** isn't a captain. Sort those out and you might see a little progress, not enough to be be top 4 but still something.

Throwing onana under the bus for last night isn't helping either, it doesn't explain how Grimsby, 4 divisions lower, outfought and outplayed you for the vast majority of the tie. You very very rarely see 'giantkillings' of this nature anymore as the gap between clubs at the top and bottom is absolutely massive.

Still funny though.

Edit: as i said after the arsenal game, you lot really need to stop using games against your historical rivals as a marker for any improvements. Its the teams at your current level you need to pay attention to.
 
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Shamikebab said:
You either carry on or you sack him, spend another 20m on changing managers and cross your fingers that it works. It's a huge gamble because sacking Amorim doesn't fix the fact we have no keeper, no midfield and can't score goals.
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We do have a midfield. We don't have a midfield 2. Thats the issue. A midfield 2 requires excellent players with certain elite attributes. A midfield 3 hides a lot of those issues. Yes we still need upgrades but a 3 man midfield would make a huge difference to our balance going forwards and in the middle.
 
Shamikebab said:
You either carry on or you sack him, spend another 20m on changing managers and cross your fingers that it works. It's a huge gamble because sacking Amorim doesn't fix the fact we have no keeper, no midfield and can't score goals.
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Or you keep him and explain that you can't just move to the Premier League and expect to just impose your system and win games. This doesn't mean abandoning his system, it means being willing to learn and adapt.
 
At what point does the finger needed to be pointed at INEOS and the Glazers?

They hired the world class management team
They chose the manager
They fired everyone
They bought the players
They didn't buy others
 
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mid_gen said:
Or you keep him and explain that you can't just move to the Premier League and expect to just impose your system and win games. This doesn't mean abandoning his system, it means being willing to learn and adapt.
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So why haven't these lazy, thick-as-mince players learned and adapted to the system yet? ;)
 
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