Google Pixel 10 Series (10/10 Pro/10 Pro XL/10 Pro Fold & Pixel Watch 4)

Probably deserves an answer. I'm playing with my diet and exercise routine and have been taking a photo in the mirror every other day to track progress. P10P looks noticeably magazine like texture compared to P6P.
The only skin softening I'm aware of is if you use the selfie camera. You can reduce this in settings.
 
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Ironically, after the Google AI pro 1 year subscription Vs YouTube premium issue, now my AI pro sub is now sorted, Google just popped this up on my phone.

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It's not designed as a gaming device, but I'm sure there is some driver / software issues here.
Doing some more reading into this, it seems that the driver issue could also be causing a few other issues:

Based on recent information and discussions from tech communities, it appears that the Google Pixel 10 Pro XL has faced a specific and temporary issue with its GPU performance at launch. The situation is as you've described, with a few key details:

* GPU Driver and API: The Pixel 10 Pro XL's new Imagination PowerVR DXT-48-1536 GPU is indeed capable of supporting the newer Vulkan 1.4 API. However, at the time of its release, its driver was "stuck" on Vulkan 1.1, which is the minimum requirement for Android 14 and above. This mismatch between the hardware's capability and the software's current state has caused a performance bottleneck.

* Clock Speed Limitation: This driver issue has been directly linked to the GPU running at a significantly lower frequency. Multiple reports from benchmark tests (like Geekbench) have shown the GPU operating at around 396MHz instead of its intended "default" clock speed, which is around 1100MHz.

* Benchmark Performance: As a result of this limitation, early benchmark scores for the Pixel 10 Pro XL's GPU were surprisingly low, sometimes even falling behind its predecessor, the Pixel 9 Pro. This has raised concerns among users, particularly for gaming performance.

* The Cause and Solution: The consensus in the tech community is that this is a software-related issue, likely an unoptimized or outdated driver that was shipped with the initial release of the device. The expectation is that Google will release an update in the near future to address this. This is not the first time Google has improved GPU performance on its Tensor chips through software updates.

In short, while the Pixel 10 Pro XL's GPU hardware is not inherently limited to 400MHz, a driver issue at launch has caused it to be artificially capped at that speed. A future software update from Google is expected to unlock the GPU's full potential and bring its performance in line with its competitors.

The key takeaway is that the Pixel 10 Pro XL will transition from a severe underperformer to a true flagship contender once the driver issue is resolved. It won't necessarily lead the pack, but it will be in the conversation with the very best.

Impact on Battery and Other Issues
Yes, a driver fix will have a positive impact on the phone beyond just benchmark scores and gaming.

* Improved Battery Life: A poorly optimized GPU driver forces the GPU to work harder and longer to complete tasks, even simple ones. By allowing the GPU to run at its proper clock speed and operate more efficiently, it can finish tasks more quickly and return to a low-power idle state. This directly translates to improved battery life in both everyday use and during graphically intensive tasks like gaming.

* Better Thermal Management: When the GPU is running inefficiently, it generates more heat. An updated driver will help the GPU operate more efficiently, reducing its thermal output. This can lead to a cooler phone, especially during prolonged use.

* Overall System Responsiveness: A healthy GPU is critical for the overall fluidity of the user interface. An optimized driver will ensure that all animations, scrolling, and app transitions are smooth and seamless, providing a more responsive and premium user experience.
 
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Do people feel the pro is worth the extra expense? What about 128 - 256gb storage? Upgrading from a pixel 8 (standard)

I am upgrading from an 8a.

There is not much in it.

I would look at the 1 year Google subscription you get with the Pro models. Check the gotchas on that but I think Google is issuing changes to it (the 1 year subscriptions) so it works in more situations.

If you travel a lot 256gb is essential.

I would also consider the additional RAM in the Pro as a positive and the camera specs.

I am going for the Pro 256gb with a blue OEM case.

On the topic above regarding performance, I think Google has intentionally slowed the phone down to avoid major throttling in hotter countries.
 
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Do people feel the pro is worth the extra expense? What about 128 - 256gb storage? Upgrading from a pixel 8 (standard)
Depends on one thing imo, photos & video. If that's important to you the pro has much better camera sensors this year, unlike say the P9 where the sensors were the same across the board.
 
Weird, the in-built Pixel charging diagnostics reports the UGREEN Magflow 2-in-1 25w as charging at 30w

 
Doing some more reading into this, it seems that the driver issue could also be causing a few other issues:

Based on recent information and discussions from tech communities, it appears that the Google Pixel 10 Pro XL has faced a specific and temporary issue with its GPU performance at launch. The situation is as you've described, with a few key details:

* GPU Driver and API: The Pixel 10 Pro XL's new Imagination PowerVR DXT-48-1536 GPU is indeed capable of supporting the newer Vulkan 1.4 API. However, at the time of its release, its driver was "stuck" on Vulkan 1.1, which is the minimum requirement for Android 14 and above. This mismatch between the hardware's capability and the software's current state has caused a performance bottleneck.

* Clock Speed Limitation: This driver issue has been directly linked to the GPU running at a significantly lower frequency. Multiple reports from benchmark tests (like Geekbench) have shown the GPU operating at around 396MHz instead of its intended "default" clock speed, which is around 1100MHz.

* Benchmark Performance: As a result of this limitation, early benchmark scores for the Pixel 10 Pro XL's GPU were surprisingly low, sometimes even falling behind its predecessor, the Pixel 9 Pro. This has raised concerns among users, particularly for gaming performance.

* The Cause and Solution: The consensus in the tech community is that this is a software-related issue, likely an unoptimized or outdated driver that was shipped with the initial release of the device. The expectation is that Google will release an update in the near future to address this. This is not the first time Google has improved GPU performance on its Tensor chips through software updates.

In short, while the Pixel 10 Pro XL's GPU hardware is not inherently limited to 400MHz, a driver issue at launch has caused it to be artificially capped at that speed. A future software update from Google is expected to unlock the GPU's full potential and bring its performance in line with its competitors.

The key takeaway is that the Pixel 10 Pro XL will transition from a severe underperformer to a true flagship contender once the driver issue is resolved. It won't necessarily lead the pack, but it will be in the conversation with the very best.

Impact on Battery and Other Issues
Yes, a driver fix will have a positive impact on the phone beyond just benchmark scores and gaming.

* Improved Battery Life: A poorly optimized GPU driver forces the GPU to work harder and longer to complete tasks, even simple ones. By allowing the GPU to run at its proper clock speed and operate more efficiently, it can finish tasks more quickly and return to a low-power idle state. This directly translates to improved battery life in both everyday use and during graphically intensive tasks like gaming.

* Better Thermal Management: When the GPU is running inefficiently, it generates more heat. An updated driver will help the GPU operate more efficiently, reducing its thermal output. This can lead to a cooler phone, especially during prolonged use.

* Overall System Responsiveness: A healthy GPU is critical for the overall fluidity of the user interface. An optimized driver will ensure that all animations, scrolling, and app transitions are smooth and seamless, providing a more responsive and premium user experience.
Again, great info here many thanks. Where are you getting the info from?
 
Garmin will do that without battery saver, I.e higher GPS accuracy and higher hr accuracy etc. And then some.
Better battery life sure, but the PW3 sensor is up there with garmins best wrist based systems in terms of HR accuracy and the GPS accuracy is pretty good despite not being a multi band set up.

Agree that if battery life is important to you, Garmin is way to go. But the sensors on the PW3 are renowned for being very accurate (at least in terms of wrist based sensors)
 
Better battery life sure, but the PW3 sensor is up there with garmins best wrist based systems in terms of HR accuracy and the GPS accuracy is pretty good despite not being a multi band set up.

Agree that if battery life is important to you, Garmin is way to go. But the sensors on the PW3 are renowned for being very accurate (at least in terms of wrist based sensors)
PW4 should be more accurate with dual band GPS
 
Okay, so I'm looking for a case for when I take my Pixel 10 Pro hiking, any suggestions please?
Maybe one from urban armor? I got one last year for camping/hiking, "scout" I think... chonky buttons, extra grip for damp/sweaty hands, lanyard hook... Think there's a beefier one as well.

 
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Please keep us updated how you get on with the Pixelsnap, I'm considering getting one as I don't own a wireless charger but could be tempted.
This arrived yesterday morning and I'm very happy with it. Looks great and nice quality about it, much weightier than I expected. I did a full charge and the phone certainly got warm, but not too bad and certainly not overly hot like it was with my old wireless charger, not sure what was going on there.

I guess it is overpriced for what it is, £65 and you still need a power adapter to go with it. If I didn't have store credit to use I probably would have looked at alternatives, but aside from the cost it is nice.
 
I don't think I can keep this pixel case, I'm not getting on with it. I am going to sell it.

I've had Ringke in the past and always liked them, so will pick up one of their cases in the week, with one of their screen protector kits!
 
I don't think I can keep this pixel case, I'm not getting on with it. I am going to sell it.

I've had Ringke in the past and always liked them, so will pick up one of their cases in the week, with one of their screen protector kits!
What have you got?
 
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