Poll: Official 2025 Italian Grand Prix Race Thread - Autodromo Nazionale di Monza - Race 16/24

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Italian Grand Prix - Autodromo Nazionale di Monza

Monza, a speed demon's dream, was whipped up in a mere 110 days back in 1922, making it the third race track to be purpose-built in the world, hot on the heels of Brooklands and Indianapolis. Sporting a spine-tingling array of banked curves, it still uses parts of the original 'outfield' to this day.

The track's inaugural Grand Prix revved up on September 3, 1922, just in time to host that year's Italian Grand Prix. Since then, it's been a staple on the Formula 1 calendar from 1950, missing only one Italian Grand Prix rendezvous.

Monza is where speed records go to be broken. Just ask Juan Pablo Montoya, who blazed through the track at a hair-raising 260.6km/h during a practice run in 2004. The track is so fast, drivers are at full throttle for 80% of the lap, reaching their top speeds on the 1.1km home straight before diving into the historic park section, where chicanes wait to test the mettle of the brakes.

Why visit? Nestled in the serene parklands just northeast of Milan, Monza offers a tranquil backdrop for the thunder of engines, with the iconic banking visible as cars whip out of the Parabolica and under the flyover bridge towards Variante Ascari, reminding you that you're in the realm of racing royalty.

The best spot to catch the action? Plant yourself in the grandstand at Variante del Rettifilo, where you can gawk at cars slamming the brakes from a blistering 350km/h down to a mere 70km/h to tackle the tight chicane. It's not just a prime overtaking spot; it's also where first-lap drama unfolds like an action-packed blockbuster.

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Kenai said:
Comments in the documents suggest it's because it took too long to gather the relevant data to make a judgement against
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Indeed, which strikes me as simply not good enough on the Steward's part. This happened more than 40 minutes before the start of the race. I do not see a good reason why they would need data that was not immediately available to them.
 
Mr Jack said:
Indeed, which strikes me as simply not good enough on the Steward's part. This happened more than 40 minutes before the start of the race. I do not see a good reason why they would need data that was not immediately available to them.
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Whilst it doesn't say so explicitly, reading between the lines, they're blaming Ferrari for not giving them data quickly enough.

The Stewards heard from the driver of Car 44 (Lewis Hamilton), team representative and reviewed positioning/marshalling system data, video, timing, telemetry, team radio and in-car video evidence.

Due to the nature of the track, the Race Director had informed all participants that the last corner before the pit lane would have double yellow flags waved. This was to ensure the safety of those on the grid and in the pit lane.

The regulations require that any driver passing through a double waved yellow flag marshalling sector ‘reduce speed significantly…’. We looked through the available telemetry within the FIA system. We also requested the team to provide us with their telemetry data. All of this took some time and this decision was delayed as a result.

In addition, Article 44.1 requires all drivers covering more than one reconnaissance lap to drive down the pit entry road at ‘greatly reduced speed’.

The data showed that the driver had entered the double yellow sector approximately 20kph less than his speed at the same point in practice sessions, had reduced throttle application in the order of 10% to 20% and had lifted and braked 70 metres earlier when entering the pit lane.

We did not consider that a 20kph reduction in speed at a double waved yellow sector constituted reducing speed ‘significantly’. We also did not consider the speed at which the driver entered the pit entry road as being at a ‘greatly’ reduced speed.

The penalty guidelines for such an infringement would ordinarily attract a penalty of 10grid positions at the next race. However, given that the driver had made an attempt to reduce his speed and to brake earlier, we took that into account as mitigating circumstances and imposed a 5 grid place penalty.

Competitors are reminded that they have the right to appeal certain decisions of the Stewards, in accordance with Article 15 of the FIA International Sporting Code and Chapter 4 of the FIA Judicial and Disciplinary Rules, within the applicable time limits.
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Kenai said:
Whilst it doesn't say so explicitly, reading between the lines, they're blaming Ferrari for not giving them data quickly enough.
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I'm not sure that makes any sense. As I understand it, the FIA has access to all transmitted data; anything else would necessitate the removal of the device that records things from the car itself. They're obviously not going to do that during the pre-race prep. I don't really see why they think they needed this data either; the FIA has speed, throttle, brake, and gear data so what extra detail are they asking for that would materially affect the decision to such a degree it was worth delaying the decision for?

(Anyway, this discussion probably belongs in the last thread, so I'll leave it there)
 
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I feel like the season is a bit meh now. It's fairly obviously going to be a Mclaren driver winning the WDC and Mclaren winning the constructors too. Hopefully they wrap up the constructors quickly so we can see gloves off between Lando and Piastri.
Not much more we can hope for other than Lewis getting some kind of decent weekend at some point, not that any result can repair what must be his worst season ever. A shame that the end of this era is not one where we see Ferrari, Merc, Mclaren and Redbull all competitive.
 
Mr Jack said:
He's got a few races yet before he catches up with Didier Pironi.
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I believe that is a separate record.

Hamilton currently holds the record for most races without a single podium for Ferrari, beating Ivan Capelli (14)

Pironi holds the record for longest race streak without a podium finish (19). However he had already got a Ferrari podium prior to this streak.

If Hamilton doesn’t get a podium in the next four races he will break Pironis record as well.
 
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BenjiSayers said:
I'm going to this, got a ticket for the prima variante grandstand over the weekend so if anyone has any tips it'll be greatly appreciated as it's my first F1 race.
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Be prepared to queue, I went in 2018 and entering the Monza Park at early morning the queues were massive. They were bag searching then and no food or drinks were allowed, I had to empty my water bottle as they just want you to buy inside as a captive audience. I don't know what the policy is like now.

We had a general access ticket and we walked the track along the inside of the circuit, I would recommend doing that if you can. As the path through the woods and over the historic track is amazing. You'll see people camping in the trees on the inside of the Lesmo corners over the weekend. Also seeing all the old historic park buildings is nice.

Walking down the inside of the back straight you can see into the support race paddocks pretty easily which is cool.

Walk the track after the race when they let everyone on, walk along the gravel traps on the exit of the corners and see if you can find any carbon fibre or pieces of cars that might have snapped off.

If you're staying in Milan, all trains leaving (including the intercontinental high speed trains) Milan Central stop at Monza on the Sunday, so you can get on any. They had a lot of multi-lingual speakers helping at the station over the weekend which helped. Look out for those.

What was hilarious is all the Tifosi on the Sunday morning would only get on red trains.

If you do go into Milan, the cathedral is amazing but watch out for all the usual tourist con-men. I had people trying to wrap friendship bracelets around my wrist and then charge me.

There were some nice Gelato stands around there too, try and learn some Italian as I noticed the locals were getting a cheaper price than the tourists asking in English :cry:
 
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jaybee said:
I feel like the season is a bit meh now. It's fairly obviously going to be a Mclaren driver winning the WDC and Mclaren winning the constructors too. Hopefully they wrap up the constructors quickly so we can see gloves off between Lando and Piastri.
Not much more we can hope for other than Lewis getting some kind of decent weekend at some point, not that any result can repair what must be his worst season ever. A shame that the end of this era is not one where we see Ferrari, Merc, Mclaren and Redbull all competitive.
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The thing is, the quicker Oscar and Lando get into it, the more we'll presumably see Max and others score points which will inherently make things a little more interesting. As it stands I just want to make sure it is Lando or Oscar that win then I can be happy.

I'd love to see Lewis improve but I'm not sure how that's going to happen this season. Mind you, worth pointing out it's not his worst season ever. He came 7th last year and he's currently 6th. One thing that a lot of people say is that he doesn't like ground effect cars - I can believe that. Could bode well for next year? /clutching at straws :p
 
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