Drums

Waiting to get into the rehearsal studio yesterday the band finished their last song, we knocked on the door and walked straight in. Immediately me and the drummer looked over at the drumkit and this is how he had been playing
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We watched him remove his bass pedal and throne so he didn't have time to move anything else around. We think he was probably a bass player
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Waiting to get into the rehearsal studio yesterday the band finished their last song, we knocked on the door and walked straight in. Immediately me and the drummer looked over at the drumkit and this is how he had been playing
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We watched him remove his bass pedal and throne so he didn't have time to move anything else around. We think he was probably a bass player
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JRSiCjq.jpeg.png

Dear lord that hurts to look at, the wrap looks pretty cool though!
 
Waiting to get into the rehearsal studio yesterday the band finished their last song, we knocked on the door and walked straight in. Immediately me and the drummer looked over at the drumkit and this is how he had been playing
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We watched him remove his bass pedal and throne so he didn't have time to move anything else around. We think he was probably a bass player
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Can only imagine the type of music they were playing....
 
My son decided he wanted to learn the drums so we signed him up for lessons and he's been progressing well, so we picked up an electronic yamaha kit for €48. Its basic but for a complete beginner it seems more than enough.

Well naturally with a setup I started hitting stuff and found it somewhat enjoyable, so...where to start? I'm picking through r/drums, and have picked up a few basic technique books. I've pretty extensive experience in a number of instruments so I am happy with setting up my own practice routines, and I'll definitely get a teacher at some point, but I'm reading good things about drumeo. @redeye I saw you recommended it a while ago, a while on now would you still recommend it?
 
My son decided he wanted to learn the drums so we signed him up for lessons and he's been progressing well, so we picked up an electronic yamaha kit for €48. Its basic but for a complete beginner it seems more than enough.

Well naturally with a setup I started hitting stuff and found it somewhat enjoyable, so...where to start? I'm picking through r/drums, and have picked up a few basic technique books. I've pretty extensive experience in a number of instruments so I am happy with setting up my own practice routines, and I'll definitely get a teacher at some point, but I'm reading good things about drumeo. @redeye I saw you recommended it a while ago, a while on now would you still recommend it?

I found a Roland V-drums with mesh heads decent enough, the key here is time for practice. The more you can practice the better you'll pick things up.

A real kit is great but the sound levels end up being too much for normal houses/appartments, even with padding/sound deadening.

You will want a stick bag to protect the ends of the sticks. The more the tips wear/damage the faster it will damage the heads. Helps to keep the drum key wrench in there too so you can find the damn thing easily.

Lastly get something you can record yourself. It's very easy to fool yourself that you're on time or not changed timing. Use it, even when doing normal practice and warm up. The attention to timing will then pay dividends later.
 
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My son decided he wanted to learn the drums so we signed him up for lessons and he's been progressing well, so we picked up an electronic yamaha kit for €48. Its basic but for a complete beginner it seems more than enough.

Well naturally with a setup I started hitting stuff and found it somewhat enjoyable, so...where to start? I'm picking through r/drums, and have picked up a few basic technique books. I've pretty extensive experience in a number of instruments so I am happy with setting up my own practice routines, and I'll definitely get a teacher at some point, but I'm reading good things about drumeo. @redeye I saw you recommended it a while ago, a while on now would you still recommend it?

Nice! Well done for supporting him.

There is so much information online, and so many different opinions. What I liked about Drumeo when I started was there are courses there for the absolute beginner to advanced. All in one place. With thousands of songs to play along with as well. Think it was 2 years ago they released the Drumeo "Method" which is literally starting from nothing.. how to hold sticks, how to play a basic beat, how to count etc. Yes you can get it on youtube and some other places too, but I like the website, the community and they have soooo many pros doing lessons as well. My brain learns from seeing and doing more than reading a book.. so in that way, yes I still highly recommend it. Just be aware they did lose a lot of songs due to ongoing copyright fights between labels and what's fair use etc. Drumeo got hit by these more than others, and a number of very loud members are now badmouthing the platform everywhere. It's not as big a resource for songs as it once was (sure it'll come back), but as a learning resource, the sheer amount of content and being to get you from nothing to something.. it can't be beaten in my mind.

As others have said the way to get "ok" at the drums is practice.. spend 60% on rudiments, time keeping, technique etc and 40% ish playing songs. Make sure you do both though, and as Maccy says from day one get used to a metronome and learn drum score notation (it's very easy). And have fun!

I had a Roland TDX-17 Vdrum kit for 3 years in a flat. It took me from absolute begininner to where I am today.. a decent kit in my garage I play every day. So nothing wrong at all with starting with an electric kit.

I still have in person lessons.. that really helps, but I also still use Drumeo every other day because the resource is so huge. Currently doing some funky Polyrhythm's.
 
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We got the Yamaha DTXplorer in France, and I'm looking at a Roland TD something or other for the UK. Zero point investing much at this point in time, and I'm more than happy to learn on the electric, and more than happy for my kids to as it'll be quieter... ;).

Am very experienced with a metronome, I think I plan on breaking sessions down into 15 minutes of rudiments/day, 15 minutes of technique and then I'll pick a song or two to try and master, to begin with. Got a long way to go until I can play along to Ghost (my fav) but am pretty determined to get competent :). I think I'll give the drumeo trial a go and see what its like. Thanks.
 
Tell you what I am impressed with this bit of kit. I'm sure to a proper drummer they'd be able to find plenty wrong with it but the sound is great, the pedals are nice and its really very easy to use. Can fit a second kick pedal out of the box as well and since most of the things I want to bash along to need one I suspect I'll treat myself sooner rather than later ;).
 
During Covid my band bought a second hand Gear4Music for £70 and our drummer used it for live gigs, he played as hard as John Bonham and Keith Moon but it still stayed up..
Pubs were being funny that you can't use proper kits and we all had to sit down.
What I found amazing was when it was plugged into a DAW via the USB all the drums had their own separate channel.
 
Tell you what I am impressed with this bit of kit. I'm sure to a proper drummer they'd be able to find plenty wrong with it but the sound is great, the pedals are nice and its really very easy to use. Can fit a second kick pedal out of the box as well and since most of the things I want to bash along to need one I suspect I'll treat myself sooner rather than later ;).
They’ve improved so much over the years, when you start experimenting with EZ Drummer or whatever, it gets even better! And then you discover that you can start purchasing more packs…
 
During Covid my band bought a second hand Gear4Music for £70 and our drummer used it for live gigs, he played as hard as John Bonham and Keith Moon but it still stayed up..
Pubs were being funny that you can't use proper kits and we all had to sit down.
What I found amazing was when it was plugged into a DAW via the USB all the drums had their own separate channel.

There's a limit to MIDI (ie one channel of digital so when the 'note' comes thought is a little quantised). So multiple channels is a sure fire way to remove that limitation as USB is far higher transfer rate than MIDI.. so even if it's multiple MIDI channels over USB (or multiple audio/controllers) it will work far better than the older single MIDI connection for the entire kit.

I suspect most will be a multi-channel proprietary protocols over USB then have a DAW plugin which allows full on processing and nuances that MIDI doesn't. It makes the kit cheaper, but needs a DAW..
 
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