New Windows Update could brick your SSD

AthlonXP1800 · 1 Sep 2025 at 21:39

Latest Jay2cents video is interesting, he said the issue happened to his Asrock X870E Taichi motherboard on testbed and I was surprised XPG SX8200 Pro was on SSDs affected list. My niece got XPG SX8200 Pro 2TB on ASUS TUF Z790 Plus Wifi ran latest Windows Updates had no issues.

So I think AMD are only affected, maybe it could be related to bugged Asrock BIOS updates, AGESA updates or bad AMD chipset drivers.

Uther · 2 Sep 2025 at 14:36

MS are denying it but I've uninstalled the update for now.

deviation · 2 Sep 2025 at 14:42

Uther said:
MS are denying it but I've uninstalled the update for now.

Get a backup done as well if possible.

cyber69 · 2 Sep 2025 at 18:00

I've got a SK Hynix P41 as my Windows OS drive, seems to be behaving itself with no issues this past week but i've just done a backup with Macrium just incase.

I used a USBC 1TB NVMe in a caddy to backup to, booting off a Macrium restore USB and 112GB backup took 5min ? Checked the backup file size and it's 50GB so seems to have done the trick.

Changed my mobo recently so i'm on B850, backup speed was 15Gbps to USBC so I guess i'm just astounded by the speed lol.

10 minutes work to backup and done!

mattyfez · 2 Sep 2025 at 19:32

Aside from j2c weeing his pants, is there any decent info about this?

Rroff · 2 Sep 2025 at 19:41

cyber69 said:
I've got a SK Hynix P41 as my Windows OS drive

I'm not using them for Windows but have several in use for things like games drives, having no problems so far - though I did have a issue about a year ago with a Windows update which was resulting in them occasionally disappearing from the OS until rebooting which I'd forgotten about - can't remember which update though now - I rolled it back and it hasn't been an issue with subsequent updates.

Connected to what AthlonXP1800 mentioned above the only information I can find related to this or might be related to this involves ASRock AMD boards so I wonder if there is some specific configuration to it of update + drivers.

Spleen Sauce · 2 Sep 2025 at 21:52

mattyfez said:
Aside from j2c weeing his pants, is there any decent info about this?

Mutterings on Reddit about it but nothing concrete as far as I can tell. I’ve got two supposedly affected NVMe drives but I’m only in Windows for the occasional game that doesn’t work on Linux these days.

booner · 3 Sep 2025 at 16:50

Is this thread title accurate? 'Bricking' implies complete death - is it not the case that all these reported incidents are where a reboot brings it all back again, or in the worst cases the drive contents can become corrupted? (where a reinstall/restore would get you back).

Not seen this on any of my drives yet (multiple up to date W11 machines). I also think Jayz likes to sensationalise, but he does appear to have a repeatable problem in his latest video - though it could be completely unrelated to any windows update.

Rogueywon · 3 Sep 2025 at 19:52

I've just been hit by this on a Samsung 990. I was downloading the new Mechwarrior 5 DLC from EGS when the SSD slowed right down and then vanished. The PC auto-restarted and couldn't find a boot drive. After a full power cycle, it came back. Pretty much exactly the same progression as J2C saw.

mattyfez · 3 Sep 2025 at 20:00

Rogueywon said:
I've just been hit by this on a Samsung 990. I was downloading the new Mechwarrior 5 DLC from EGS when the SSD slowed right down and then vanished. The PC auto-restarted and couldn't find a boot drive. After a full power cycle, it came back. Pretty much exactly the same progression as J2C saw.

Might be helpfull to the thread if you listed your system specs

Rogueywon · 3 Sep 2025 at 20:05

mattyfez said:
Might be helpfull to the thread if you listed your system specs

Sure:

Case CORSAIR iCUE 5000T RGB MID TOWER GAMING CASE
Processor (CPU) AMD Ryzen 9 7950X3D 16 Core CPU (4.2GHz-5.7GHz/144MB w/3D V-CACHE/AM5)
Motherboard GIGABYTE X670 AORUS ELITE AX (AM5, DDR5, PCIe 4.0, Wi-Fi 6E)
Memory (RAM) 96GB Corsair VENGEANCE RGB DDR5 5200MHz (2 x 48GB) KIT
Graphics Card Palit Gamerock 5090
1st M.2 SSD Drive 4TB SAMSUNG 990 PRO M.2, PCIe 4.0 NVMe (up to 7450MB/R,
6900MB/W)
2nd M.2 SSD Drive 4TB SAMSUNG 990 PRO M.2, PCIe 4.0 NVMe (up to 7450MB/R,
6900MB/W)
1st Storage Drive 22TB SEAGATE IRONWOLF PRO 3.5", 7200 RPM 256MB CACHE
Power Supply CORSAIR 1200W RMx SHIFT SERIES™ MODULAR 80 PLUS GOLD, ULTRA QUIET

Running a fully updated Win11 24H2

Edit: The drive is just under 18 months old and just under 60% full. Crystaldiskinfo reports 99% health.

darael · 3 Sep 2025 at 23:59

darael said:
Well, I've two things going for me:

I have a Samsung 990 Pro which doesn't appear to be affected by this issue

I'm on Windows 10

Rogueywon said:
I've just been hit by this on a Samsung 990. I was downloading the new Mechwarrior 5 DLC from EGS when the SSD slowed right down and then vanished. The PC auto-restarted and couldn't find a boot drive. After a full power cycle, it came back. Pretty much exactly the same progression as J2C saw.

Welp! It looks like I've only got one thing going for me now. :eek:

Oh well, I just hope that this Windows 11 bug - or whatever it is - is fixed by the time I decide to move to Windows 11. It doesn't bode well for Microsoft, especially if they're either denying that this is even an issue or can't reproduce the fault themselves in order to fix it.

Rogueywon · 4 Sep 2025 at 00:30

darael said:
Welp! It looks like I've only got one thing going for me now.

Oh well, I just hope that this Windows 11 bug - or whatever it is - is fixed by the time I decide to move to Windows 11. It doesn't bode well for Microsoft, especially if they're either denying that this is even an issue or can't reproduce the fault themselves in order to fix it.

I think some of the original bug reports were misleading. They pointed to a specific controller and said it was related to downloading 50+ gigs.

It seems to affect all drives and it looks like it can occur in a range of scenarios, possibly where both CPU and disk usage are high.

And it's no surprise MS's telemetry couldn't measure it. You can't save an error report to a drive that your PC can't detect.

Grim5 · 4 Sep 2025 at 00:34

Rogueywon said:
I've just been hit by this on a Samsung 990. I was downloading the new Mechwarrior 5 DLC from EGS when the SSD slowed right down and then vanished. The PC auto-restarted and couldn't find a boot drive. After a full power cycle, it came back. Pretty much exactly the same progression as J2C saw.

But that's not a Phison drive

Rogueywon · 4 Sep 2025 at 00:53

Grim5 said:
But that's not a Phison drive

It's not just Phison. The original bug report was wrong. The 50GB download thing also has nothing to do with it.

AthlonXP1800 · 4 Sep 2025 at 01:09

Rogueywon said:
Sure:

Case CORSAIR iCUE 5000T RGB MID TOWER GAMING CASE
Processor (CPU) AMD Ryzen 9 7950X3D 16 Core CPU (4.2GHz-5.7GHz/144MB w/3D V-CACHE/AM5)
Motherboard GIGABYTE X670 AORUS ELITE AX (AM5, DDR5, PCIe 4.0, Wi-Fi 6E)
Memory (RAM) 96GB Corsair VENGEANCE RGB DDR5 5200MHz (2 x 48GB) KIT
Graphics Card Palit Gamerock 5090
1st M.2 SSD Drive 4TB SAMSUNG 990 PRO M.2, PCIe 4.0 NVMe (up to 7450MB/R,
6900MB/W)
2nd M.2 SSD Drive 4TB SAMSUNG 990 PRO M.2, PCIe 4.0 NVMe (up to 7450MB/R,
6900MB/W)
1st Storage Drive 22TB SEAGATE IRONWOLF PRO 3.5", 7200 RPM 256MB CACHE
Power Supply CORSAIR 1200W RMx SHIFT SERIES™ MODULAR 80 PLUS GOLD, ULTRA QUIET

Running a fully updated Win11 24H2

Edit: The drive is just under 18 months old and just under 60% full. Crystaldiskinfo reports 99% health.

Ahh another case all pointed to AMD!!!

What is your motherboard revision? GIGABYTE X670 AORUS ELITE AX has 4 revisions 1.0, 1.1, 1.2 and 1.3.

Did you updated to latest BIOS F37b released on 29 August 2025?

Did you updated to latest AMD chipset driver 7.06.24.2226 released on 25 August 2025?

Rogueywon · 4 Sep 2025 at 07:28

AthlonXP1800 said:
Ahh another case all pointed to AMD!!!

What is your motherboard revision? GIGABYTE X670 AORUS ELITE AX has 4 revisions 1.0, 1.1, 1.2 and 1.3.

Did you updated to latest BIOS F37b released on 29 August 2025?

Did you updated to latest AMD chipset driver 7.06.24.2226 released on 25 August 2025?

Not sure on mobo revision - how would I check? I can't see anything in system info.

I've certainly not updated the BIOS or AMD chipset driver. I tend to leave those well alone unless anything is broken.

AthlonXP1800 · 4 Sep 2025 at 08:32

Rogueywon said:
Not sure on mobo revision - how would I check? I can't see anything in system info.

I've certainly not updated the BIOS or AMD chipset driver. I tend to leave those well alone unless anything is broken.

You will find revision on rear corner of motherboard next to F_AUDIO connector, you may need to use mobile phone with magnifier to read it.

Your is already broken. :cry:

You didnt updated your 2 Samsung 990 PRO SSDs firmwares to latest version 4B2QJXD7? :eek:

Better saved your BIOS settings to your profile, backup BIOS to file then update both latest BIOS and AMD chipset driver to see if fix your SSDs issues.

andshrew · 4 Sep 2025 at 10:48

I would look in the Application and System Event Logs in the moments leading up to the drive disappearing and see if that reveals anything.

ED209 · 4 Sep 2025 at 12:20

Rogueywon said:
Not sure on mobo revision - how would I check? I can't see anything in system info.

I've certainly not updated the BIOS or AMD chipset driver. I tend to leave those well alone unless anything is broken.

Another place to check is the box, they normally have a sticker on them with the serial numbers and motherboard details.

Maybe easier than trying to find it on the board