Alien TV series (Alien Earth) : 2025

Devils advocate but maybe the majority of the time was spent going planet to planet, locating the aliens in the first place....once they had them the trip back might not have been that long?
 
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Aliens implies faster than light travel because they arrive at Hadley's Hope and Newt isn't in her 20's. If it took 20 years to get to the nearest star sending colonial marines would be kind of pointless.

Maginot however has a 60+ year mission it can't possibly be worthwhile moving anything backwards and forwards on that time frame. Technological change alone would be massive. It's a minor gripe and a piece of plot I just largely choose to ignore.
 
VincentHanna said:
Devils advocate but maybe the majority of the time was spent going planet to planet, locating the aliens in the first place....once they had them the trip back might not have been that long?
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I initially thought they had two crews, one in cyro whilst one did a six month shift or something. Probably didn't help ep1 should have been ep2, with 5 being 1.
 
I've been really enjoying this and the latest episode was excellent, it felt more like a short film. There are a few dumb things but luckily not too many and it's got me hooked with where it's going. Definitely the best thing on TV at the moment.

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This is a crossover I would watch. Especially if there was a Haroldmoph!
 
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PlacidCasual said:
Aliens implies faster than light travel because they arrive at Hadley's Hope and Newt isn't in her 20's. If it took 20 years to get to the nearest star sending colonial marines would be kind of pointless.

Maginot however has a 60+ year mission it can't possibly be worthwhile moving anything backwards and forwards on that time frame. Technological change alone would be massive. It's a minor gripe and a piece of plot I just largely choose to ignore.
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I guess its worthiness would depend upon the value of what it is they are moving, are these the first intelligent alien life forms mankind has ever encountered? If so, 60 years to get real , intelligent alien life, is a very small price to pay in terms of time. Its 60 years since we won the World Cup, thats a small comparative timespan to achieve the greatest discovery ever for mankind :)
 
hornetstinger said:
ah yeah good point, all those should have been put in cyro too, I guess the cylinders/glass cases have their own cyro systems.

Pretty lax bio hazard routine...no hazmat suits, food, drink etc, tranferring items from the lab to elseware duh

FTL isn't shown in Aliens universe, it's just a vague FTL name drop/
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It might not even be FTL, a 60 year mission would be 30 years out and 30 years back, so if the planet in question is say 35 light years away (for the record LV426 from Aliens is 37 light years) , then if the ship was say 0.8 the speed of light, so close to light speed but not faster than lightspeed, a 60 year 2 way mission would be about right for the amount of time to travel to the LV426 system
 
PlacidCasual said:
One problem I have with the overall premise of the Magniot is the 60+ year mission. This just doesn't feel right. How can you have an economy in the 2100's that has space travel taking decades, how can it possibly be economic and how can terraforming pay when travel times are soooo long. I know Ripley was in hibernation for 50+ years between Alien and Aliens but I put that down to it being an escape pod and not being found. One assumes Ripley for instance didn't sign up for a mission where she would miss the entirety of her daughters life, I had always assumed months or a year at most for the journey of the Nostromo.

But accepting the premise; Tang is a weirdo because they are all weirdo's I mean who else signs up for a 60 year mission where all of your Worldly connections will be gone by the time you return.
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People have signed up to worse fates, for less. I'd assume there was some kind of signing on bonus to set you family up for life kind of thing.
Tombstone said:
It might not even be FTL, a 60 year mission would be 30 years out and 30 years back, so if the planet in question is say 35 light years away (for the record LV426 from Aliens is 37 light years) , then if the ship was say 0.8 the speed of light, so close to light speed but not faster than lightspeed, a 60 year 2 way mission would be about right for the amount of time to travel to the LV426 system
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Exactly. Plus, FTL doesn't mean Warp 9.9 or instantaneous flight times either. Going multiples of the speed of light could still easily involve decades long travel times to stars.
 
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I swear some people can just enjoy stuff for what it is…science fiction

Not everything needs to be pristinely accurate and delved into constantly.

Working out light speed jumps, the specimens wouldn’t survive 30 years

Well one there alien so who knows but also just enjoy it for what it is in that type of scenario fiction

Even if any of this became possible in the future we will all be dead
 
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Tombstone said:
It might not even be FTL, a 60 year mission would be 30 years out and 30 years back, so if the planet in question is say 35 light years away (for the record LV426 from Aliens is 37 light years) , then if the ship was say 0.8 the speed of light, so close to light speed but not faster than lightspeed, a 60 year 2 way mission would be about right for the amount of time to travel to the LV426 system
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Most likely they went to several planets / solar systems.

Alien universe does have FTL it's not shown like Star Wars or Star Trek.

LV426 is apparently set in real place, about 40 light years away, yet it only took 3 weeks to get there (solaco Aliens) so multiple FTL

Plus Newt would have been a old woman by the time they go there
 
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Tombstone said:
Could be that only military vessels have FTL
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If cargo ships/passenger ships DON'T have FTL it still would take f thousands of years

"Therefore to go 1 light year at the speed Voyager 1 is going, would take 17,000 years.
To go 40 light years, would take 700,000 years. "

So civilian ships must have FTL.
 
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Or maybe they went in a direction of space where FTL doesn't work for some reason... or the type of ship... or.... something else.

I really wouldn't get too caught up in it... you'll end up choking your enjoyment.
 
hornetstinger said:
If cargo ships/passenger ships DON'T have FTL it still would take f thousands of years

"Therefore to go 1 light year at the speed Voyager 1 is going, would take 17,000 years.
To go 40 light years, would take 700,000 years. "

So civilian ships must have FTL.
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It wouldnt take thousands of years if it was going near but sub light speed.

It takes 1 year to go 1 light year at light speed, so if they had sublightspeed vessels travelling at 0.9 x the speed of light it wouldnt take thousands of years. It would take 1.11 years to go 1 light year. So a 37 light year journey would take 41.07 years
 
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Nitefly said:
Or maybe they went in a direction of space where FTL doesn't work for some reason... or the type of ship... or.... something else.

I really wouldn't get too caught up in it... you'll end up choking your enjoyment.
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I'm not. But they do have FTL but it's always been vague, they don't show it like Star Wars or Star Trek. Time frame of Hadleys Hope incident, xeno infestation, to WY losing contact, meeting, creating a time, launching a ship and arriving wasn't months. They must also have FTL communication.

And "17 days" overdue, meaning a ship would arrive not much later than that...they didn't act as they would be on their own for months/years.

Newt didn't age between father being face hugged and Ripley arriving.
 
hornetstinger said:
I'm not. But they do have FTL but it's always been vague, they don't show it like Star Wars or Star Trek. Time frame of Hadleys Hope incident, xeno infestation, to WY losing contact, meeting, creating a time, launching a ship and arriving wasn't months. They must also have FTL communication.

And "17 days" overdue, meaning a ship would arrive not much later than that...they didn't act as they would be on their own for months/years.

Newt didn't age between father being face hugged and Ripley arriving.
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Certainly seems that military vessels at least have FTL, but as I say, might be just military vessels.
 
Tombstone said:
Certainly seems that military vessels at least have FTL, but as I say, might be just military vessels.
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AI answer

The USCSS Nostromo traveled at a speed of 0.42 light years per sidereal day (LYSD) when unladen and 0.12 LYSD while towing a heavy cargo refinery, which translates to approximately 46 times the speed of light (C) for a laden state. This speed is achieved through its Rolls-Royce N66 Cyclone thrust engines and is crucial for its function as a commercial hauler.

Speed Breakdown

Unladen: 0.42 light years per sidereal day (LYSD)

Laden (towing refinery): 0.12 light years per sidereal day (LYSD)
Calculation: 0.12 LYSD is approximately 46 times the speed of light (46x FTL).

Engine and Propulsion

The ship was equipped with Rolls-Royce N66 Cyclone thrust engines.

These engines provided the thrust needed for its interstellar travel, which was important for transporting large refinery equipment.
 
hornetstinger said:
AI answer

The USCSS Nostromo traveled at a speed of 0.42 light years per sidereal day (LYSD) when unladen and 0.12 LYSD while towing a heavy cargo refinery, which translates to approximately 46 times the speed of light (C) for a laden state. This speed is achieved through its Rolls-Royce N66 Cyclone thrust engines and is crucial for its function as a commercial hauler.

Speed Breakdown

Unladen: 0.42 light years per sidereal day (LYSD)

Laden (towing refinery): 0.12 light years per sidereal day (LYSD)
Calculation: 0.12 LYSD is approximately 46 times the speed of light (46x FTL).

Engine and Propulsion

The ship was equipped with Rolls-Royce N66 Cyclone thrust engines.

These engines provided the thrust needed for its interstellar travel, which was important for transporting large refinery equipment.
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Maybe the ship they were in wasnt a commercial hauler then, maybe their one wasnt FTL capable. Have they said yet what class their vessel was? I might have missed it.

Thats the thing with scifi and horror, theres always a "maybe" get out :D
 
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