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Intel Nova Lake (16th gen) on next gen platform/socket (LGA-1954)

I've ended up going back to my 265k build over my 9800X3D because of exactly this.

I love both - the 9800X3D gives me boatloads more FPS (some titles it's 50+ at 1440p) - but everything about the 265k just feels smoother and actually using my PC felt snappier, more responsive and just more enjoyable to use.
Shame you couldnt diagnose the issues!
 
If the rumors are correct, the 52 core + 288MB L3 cache will be a monster, probably £1K+ though.

16P cores & L3 cache should get Intel back the gaming crown. Though still interested to see what AMD can get out of Zen6, since that should be the competition for Novalake.
 
I find the gaming hype for 3D L3 hard to take. Most games run fine on even cheap low end CPU's, spending £400+ on an 8 core when a 16 core(AMD) is ~£450-500 just seems crazy to me. The (245/265)K CPU's look like much better options than the AMD chip's at the same price point, even if its a dead socket as most don't upgrade CPU's anyway.

Wonder if Intel will do a 52 core with and without the extra L3, wonder what the price difference will be?
 
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guys i know the current king for PC CPU is the Arrow Lake Ultra 9 and the 9950X3D

But is someone was buying a CPU today would you guys wait for the next line up, i mean do we even know how long it will be before the new stuff come out?
 
I find the gaming hype for 3D L3 hard to take. Most games run fine on even cheap low end CPU's, spending £400+ on an 8 core when a 16 core(AMD) is ~£450-500 just seems crazy to me. The (245/265)K CPU's look like much better options than the AMD chip's at the same price point, even if its a dead socket as most don't upgrade CPU's anyway.

Wonder if Intel will do a 52 core with and without the extra L3, wonder what the price difference will be?

The hype is actually very real. I sometimes think the 7800X3D in “gaming” rig is the work of witch craft. Silly fast in most scenarios and bonkers fast in games while hardly pulling 40 watts. It’s also available for closer to 300 than 400 which makes it a bit of a bargain in my book.
 
The hype is actually very real. I sometimes think the 7800X3D in “gaming” rig is the work of witch craft. Silly fast in most scenarios and bonkers fast in games while hardly pulling 40 watts. It’s also available for closer to 300 than 400 which makes it a bit of a bargain in my book.
Its not that its not good, its very good in limited scenarios and OK in everything else. (245K/265K or 7950X/9950X) smash most things and is more than good enough for any game.
 
Its not that its not good, its very good in limited scenarios and OK in everything else. (245K/265K or 7950X/9950X) smash most things and is more than good enough for any game.

It’s better than very good in any scenario. The 7800X3D is such a good chip it’s difficult to understand how AMD pulled this off. The performance for power use and price is just silly. You can drop a 7800X3D in an £40 A620 board, cool it with a £10 HSF and have stupid amounts of performance for peanuts.
 
It’s better than very good in any scenario. The 7800X3D is such a good chip it’s difficult to understand how AMD pulled this off. The performance for power use and price is just silly. You can drop a 7800X3D in an £40 A620 board, cool it with a £10 HSF and have stupid amounts of performance for peanuts.
7800X would be faster and cheaper for a lot of workloads
 
I've ended up going back to my 265k build over my 9800X3D because of exactly this.

I love both - the 9800X3D gives me boatloads more FPS (some titles it's 50+ at 1440p) - but everything about the 265k just feels smoother and actually using my PC felt snappier, more responsive and just more enjoyable to use.

Going back to this, related to a couple of recent videos by JayZ and others though a slightly different root cause, I recently found the reason a couple of AMD systems feel a bit sluggish is related to USB power management/selective suspend, the drivers (even though it is Windows which should be directing this) seem overly aggressive at putting devices into a lower power state or disconnecting then either hitching the input device or a brief system latency spike as they respond.
 
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Nova Lake delayed to 'late' 2026 and 'into' 2027.

 
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Goes from bad to worse

Yeah it's not good for Intel. AMD has had the ever important gaming performance crown for almost a year already and will likely have it for at least another 18 months.

That's a huge market share gain for them.

I think Intel will really go all out with Nova Lake's 52C X3D (LLC) flagship - it needs to retake the performance crown if Intel are to get out of this hole.
 
Goes from bad to worse

Not necessarily, AMD's Zen6 is also scheduled for early 2027

2026 is gonna be a dry year - likely no new GPU or CPU lineups from anyone. Nvidia does have its RTX5000 Super and Intel says it will refresh Arrow Lake, but I don't consider either of these as new products, they are meaningless

But that also means 2026 will be a poor sales year for Intel as AMD continues to hold the gaming crown

 
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Not necessarily, AMD's Zen6 is also scheduled for early 2027

2026 is gonna be a dry year - likely no new GPU or CPU lineups from anyone. Nvidia does have its RTX5000 Super and Intel says it will refresh Arrow Lake, but I don't consider either of these as new products, they are meaningless

But that also means 2026 will be a poor sales year for Intel as AMD continues to hold the gaming crown

There's gotta be something in 2026, shareholders aren't going to be happy otherwise!
 
Yeah it's not good for Intel. AMD has had the ever important gaming performance crown for almost a year already and will likely have it for at least another 18 months.

That's a huge market share gain for them.

I think Intel will really go all out with Nova Lake's 52C X3D (LLC) flagship - it needs to retake the performance crown if Intel are to get out of this hole.

its already around 50/50 for CPU sales I believe, possibly even more in AMD's favour and the number is only going to get higher
 
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