Bets soundbar under £500?

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I don't have a ton of room or money so a proper sound system is probably out of the question but I'd like to replace my cheapo soundbar. 99% of it's use is film and tv coming from Plex on my Shield TV, if music sounds alright that's just a bonus. My main gripe with my current soundbar is constantly having to turn the volume up for dialogue and then back down again for explosions, loud music etc. so ideally the new soundbar would address this.

Any suggestions/advice would be most welcome.

Thanks
 
You'd need a soundbar with night mode/dynamic range compression, and ideally one with "dialogue enhance" as well as you can enable or both. Night mode brings the loudest and lowest parts closer together so you don't get that quiet and loud blasting difference. And dialogue enhance boosts the frequencies where human voice resides in, so it helps with movies like tenet

I'd recommend a soundbar with standard subwoofer pre out, so you can change or use any regular active subwoofer. Avoid the wireless ones- as that sub and soundbar is tied together.
 
Do you want a standalone soundbar or would you be interested in one with a sub and/or rear satellite speakers?

One with a sub would be fine but rear speakers not really just because the room its in makes things awkward.

You'd need a soundbar with night mode/dynamic range compression, and ideally one with "dialogue enhance" as well as you can enable or both. Night mode brings the loudest and lowest parts closer together so you don't get that quiet and loud blasting difference. And dialogue enhance boosts the frequencies where human voice resides in, so it helps with movies like tenet

I'd recommend a soundbar with standard subwoofer pre out, so you can change or use any regular active subwoofer. Avoid the wireless ones- as that sub and soundbar is tied together.

Do those dialogue features work without reducing the audio quality or is there a trade-off?
 
Night mode reduces the dynamic range, that's how it functions, but typically you have variety of settings, from off, low medium high etc.

Dialogue enhance works well.

Not sure what soundbars have those options, some AVR's do. My old av pre amp had dialogue enhance you could enhance speech by upto 6db. This isn't simply "turning up the center louder" it only boosted vocal frequencies and it worked really well for Tenet and other Nolan movie. But I'd certainly look for a audio product with both of those.

I never used night mode. :D

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"Night Mode" on an Audio-Visual Receiver (AVR) is a function that compresses the dynamic range of audio signals, making loud sounds quieter and soft sounds louder to allow for clearer dialogue and an immersive theater-like experience at low volume levels without disturbing others. This feature, also known as Dynamic Range Control, is especially useful for late-night movie watching, reducing the need to constantly adjust the volume. You can typically enable it from the receiver's main menu or directly from the remote.
How it Works

Compresses Volume Swings:
The primary function of Night Mode is to reduce the difference (or swing) between the loudest and quietest sounds in a movie or show.

Boosts Soft Sounds:
It increases the volume of quiet sounds, such as dialogue or footsteps, to make them more audible.
Maintains Dialogue Clarity:
By raising soft sounds and keeping sound effects from being overly loud, Night Mode ensures you can still hear important dialogue even at low volume settings.

When to Use It

Late-Night Listening:
The most common use is when watching movies or shows late at night, allowing you to enjoy the experience without disturbing others who are sleeping.
Low-Volume Environments:
It helps retain a theater-like experience when you need to keep the overall volume low, for example, in an apartment or shared living space.


To improve dialogue in movies and TV on an AVR, use the "Dialog Enhancer" feature, which increases the center channel's frequency band to make voices clearer. To activate it, go to the AVR's option menu and select the feature, then choose a level like Low, Medium, or High. However, some factors like poor room acoustics, speaker placement, and complex film mixes can also affect dialogue clarity, so addressing these issues can also significantly help.
 
One with a sub would be fine but rear speakers not really just because the room its in makes things awkward.

I'd probably look at one of the Klipsch ones and then you could add a sub later if you feel it neccesary.

Alternatively you could get something like the Samsung Q930F and just not use the rears but have them handy if circumstances change.
 
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I'd probably look at one of the Klipsch ones and then you could add a sub later if you feel it neccesary.

Alternatively you could get something like the Samsung Q930F and just not use the rears but have them handy if circumstances change.

That Samsung is double my budget, the Q600F is £500 at most places so that's the one i'd have to go for.

Anyone have any opinions on the Samsung Q600F?
 
OP best go to Richer Sounds or AV store, ask for a AVR setup, specifically asking about one that has night mode and dialogue enhance, have a test of those two features listen to the effect and ask which soundbar has those features.
 
Is "used" an option?

I picked up a new & sealed LG US90TY from Ebay for £350 last week, and the sound is great, no issues with dialog, and it reviews well: https://www.rtings.com/soundbar/reviews/lg/s90ty

I believe they were on a deal with LG TVs recently so, seem to be quite a few people selling them for a lot lower than RRP.

Not sure how it compares with a similar price Scamsung, but I'm certainly happy with it.
 
@Haggisman

I might look at used stuff if I can’t find anything suitable new.

Ok for the money. Little bit small speakers for my preference

 
I don't have a ton of room or money so a proper sound system is probably out of the question but I'd like to replace my cheapo soundbar. 99% of it's use is film and tv coming from Plex on my Shield TV, if music sounds alright that's just a bonus. My main gripe with my current soundbar is constantly having to turn the volume up for dialogue and then back down again for explosions, loud music etc. so ideally the new soundbar would address this.

Any suggestions/advice would be most welcome.

Thanks


Sounds like exactly the same problem I had even with my Sony HT-G700 soundbar that had a dedicated centre speaker in it, dialogue enhance with various levels, night mode etc. I ended up going the separates route for having full control over everything and the difference is huge. Not only is dialogue lovely and clear in almost all cases, but the overall the immersion has brought my love of movies back to life.

However, if it has to be a soundbar then I've heard good things about those top end Samsung ones, so I wouldn't dismiss a used one. I would still try and demo some and ideally with some movies that you are currently struggling to hear dialogue with. A little trick I did was go to Currys and connect to their soundbars using Bluetooth on my phone and then play the same set of movie clips from YouTube. Not ideal, but gives you a rough idea of how they perform using the same source footage.


EDIT: I found my old thread showing the same problem and the journey I took: https://forums.overclockers.co.uk/threads/sony-ht-g700.18990246/
 
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Sounds like exactly the same problem I had even with my Sony HT-G700 soundbar that had a dedicated centre speaker in it, dialogue enhance with various levels, night mode etc. I ended up going the separates route for having full control over everything and the difference is huge. Not only is dialogue lovely and clear in almost all cases, but the overall the immersion has brought my love of movies back to life.

However, if it has to be a soundbar then I've heard good things about those top end Samsung ones, so I wouldn't dismiss a used one. I would still try and demo some and ideally with some movies that you are currently struggling to hear dialogue with. A little trick I did was go to Currys and connect to their soundbars using Bluetooth on my phone and then play the same set of movie clips from YouTube. Not ideal, but gives you a rough idea of how they perform using the same source footage.


EDIT: I found my old thread showing the same problem and the journey I took: https://forums.overclockers.co.uk/threads/sony-ht-g700.18990246/
Thanks for that, i'll check it out when I get a minute.
 
Thanks for that, i'll check it out when I get a minute.

You have to think about it as well, once you get soundbar that's if you're stuck.

With what ninjatag has, if he's unhappy about a component he can replace just that one item, or add more

Not happy with L/R performance - replace with higher quality floostanders
not happy with center performance - replace with higher quality wider frequency response center
not happy with subwoofer- replace with higher quality subwoofer or add a second, third or fourth
HDMI standards change, want new decoding or channels - replace with newer higher end model
Want to re-use those L/R speakers from #1- just disconnect, buy a small D amp and reuse in bedroom.

Then factor in failures ie if AVR goes faulty, you just replace the AVR.

Multiple I/O with AVR's like 7 HDMI inputs, 2 HDMI outputs. Better room EQ. Multiple independent subwoofer outputs. AVR's now have streamers built in.
 
You have to think about it as well, once you get soundbar that's if you're stuck.

With what ninjatag has, if he's unhappy about a component he can replace just that one item, or add more

Not happy with L/R performance - replace with higher quality floostanders
not happy with center performance - replace with higher quality wider frequency response center
not happy with subwoofer- replace with higher quality subwoofer or add a second, third or fourth
HDMI standards change, want new decoding or channels - replace with newer higher end model
Want to re-use those L/R speakers from #1- just disconnect, buy a small D amp and reuse in bedroom.

Then factor in failures ie if AVR goes faulty, you just replace the AVR.

Multiple I/O with AVR's like 7 HDMI inputs, 2 HDMI outputs. Better room EQ. Multiple independent subwoofer outputs. AVR's now have streamers built in.

Do you think it's doable on a £500 budget to get a decent sound system if I went second hand? I dont much care (nor do i have anywhere to put rear speakers) for surround sound so I could save some money there.
 
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