I'd try going into the bios and disabling the igpu from the 9600x and see how that goes as you don't need it having the 9060xt. i had some conflicts myself...initially i turned off hardware acceleration in chrome which actually fixed problem(I didn't notice and change in performance tbh), but also once had a prob with a game that defaulted to cpu gpu, not my 9070xt...went in and turned off the cpu gpu to get rid of that conflict. turned hardware accerlation back on in chrome to see and still had no issue...worth a try at leastThe main issue I'm having is when a game is running in the background and I alt+tab into Chrome or discord, part of the display gets stuck (only sometimes) like this video shows (this video isn't mine, it's taken from Discord with someone that was having the same exact issue as me)
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Would like your opinion on this please after doing some more testing
Running the RAM with EXPO on and then downclocking it to 5600MHz seems stable now, I can load games up fine, no anti-cheat errors etc. When I had the RAM with just EXPO on and a default 6000MHz, I was getting a lot of anti-cheat errors. Downclocked the RAM to 5600MHz and they stopped straight away
Could this POSSIBLY be a bad set of RAM or is it more likely a weak CPU memory controller? From reading around online a weak memory controller would be the least likely option
I've got replacement RAM coming tomorrow but unfortunately this replacement RAM isn't on the QVL list either, not sure how much that matters
My next option was going to be to send the motherboard back and go for a different one, most likely the MSI B850M GAMING PLUS WIFI6E mATX
Urrrgh, sorry your build experience has been terrible 
Essentially as you have said, the issue lies with either the CPU, RAM or motherboard.
IMHO the most likely cause is the CPU because:
(1) The ram is rated to run at 6000c36, so unless they chips are binned wrongly this is unlikely to be the issue
(2) You're not going for monster over clocks, and the mobo supports 6000 ram, yes there are sporadic reports of incompatibility, but these are usually the very vocal minority (ie no one will post if the board works fine...if there was a more endemic issue we would, I hope, have heard more about it seeing as the b650m HDV/m.2 was very very popular)
(3) Leaving the CPU as the most obvious culprit as you are indeed asking it to run out-of-spec with an overclock
Essentially as you have said, the issue lies with either the CPU, RAM or motherboard.
IMHO the most likely cause is the CPU because:
(1) The ram is rated to run at 6000c36, so unless they chips are binned wrongly this is unlikely to be the issue
(2) You're not going for monster over clocks, and the mobo supports 6000 ram, yes there are sporadic reports of incompatibility, but these are usually the very vocal minority (ie no one will post if the board works fine...if there was a more endemic issue we would, I hope, have heard more about it seeing as the b650m HDV/m.2 was very very popular)
(3) Leaving the CPU as the most obvious culprit as you are indeed asking it to run out-of-spec with an overclock
Urrrgh, sorry your build experience has been terrible
Essentially as you have said, the issue lies with either the CPU, RAM or motherboard.
IMHO the most likely cause is the CPU because:
(1) The ram is rated to run at 6000c36, so unless they chips are binned wrongly this is unlikely to be the issue
(2) You're not going for monster over clocks, and the mobo supports 6000 ram, yes there are sporadic reports of incompatibility, but these are usually the very vocal minority (ie no one will post if the board works fine...if there was a more endemic issue we would, I hope, have heard more about it seeing as the b650m HDV/m.2 was very very popular)
(3) Leaving the CPU as the most obvious culprit as you are indeed asking it to run out-of-spec with an overclock
Hmm yeah, thanks. Appreciate the input. I certainly could look at getting the CPU returned, that might be my next option after trying the replacement RAM tomorrow, if the same occurs then it almost certainly has to be the CPU you'd expect
You'd be surprised lol. Sometimes just changing something minor can get everything to work perfectly, even if all the parts are actually working correctly in isolation. Just one annoying PC things we put up with as PC people
Just another thing I forgot to mention in my last post, how concerned should I be about the reports that some Asrock boards are killing 9000 series CPU's? I'm using a 9600x, I know it's not as powerful as the 9800x3d's but is it still an area of concern?
As far as I am aware it's the b850 boards not the b650 boards that has the issue and it only applies to the x3d chips not the vanilla chips. Also this has been fixed with the latest updates.
looking on reddit some people saying still happenning..1 guy says had his x3d replaced under warranty 911 days ago) but asrock wont replace the mobo, claiming it's fixed...personally i wouldn't touch an asrock mobo. there's a reason they're cheaper now..no one wants to risk it..doesn't bode well for 2nd hand prices either. If i had one and an x3d cpu died, i certainly wouldn't be putting my replacement in the same mobo..and watching the gamernexus interview with asrock did not fill me with confidence....but agree with rest...b850 boards and x3d cpu's as far as i've read...does effect other manufactures as well but far higher failure on asrock boards (my understanding anyway)
Ah fair enough I'd not seen the GN interview
Good to know that my CPU is safe with the B650 then
So tomorrow, when the replacement RAM comes and if my system is still unstable at 6000Mhz, should my priority be to replace the CPU? The only thing I would slightly be concerned by is that the RAM is not on the QVL list of my current mobo. It's going to be a dice roll between the CPU or motherboard I suppose
So tomorrow, when the replacement RAM comes and if my system is still unstable at 6000Mhz, should my priority be to replace the CPU? The only thing I would slightly be concerned by is that the RAM is not on the QVL list of my current mobo. It's going to be a dice roll between the CPU or motherboard I suppose
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The rabbit hole gets a bit deeper (sorry for another ping)
I didn't do a memtest86+ on the RAM until now because I used Windows built in memory tool and it passed. Anyway, I kept the RAM at 5600MHz and memtest86+ passed without any errors at all. Turned the RAM speed back up to 6000Mhz and it failed with 4 errors
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Now does this mean that the RAM is absolutely the culprit for the instability at 6000MHz or could it still very well be as you suspect, a weak CPU memory controller?
Thanks
No worries mate
with the memtest errors it could be either the ram or CPU unfortunately. The only way to tell one or the other is with a known fully working set of ram that will run 6000 without errors
Edit: just had a look at the memtest screen. I would suspect that because the errors affect both sticks of ram (errors at 165mb and 17.4gb) that the cause is indeed the CPU.
with the memtest errors it could be either the ram or CPU unfortunately. The only way to tell one or the other is with a known fully working set of ram that will run 6000 without errors
Edit: just had a look at the memtest screen. I would suspect that because the errors affect both sticks of ram (errors at 165mb and 17.4gb) that the cause is indeed the CPU.
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Ahhhhh... and here we go again /yawn
Long story short. Replacement RAM didn't arrive today due to retailer delay. Should be tomorrow hopefully. But late last night on live chat they offered me to exchange the current motherboard (b650 HDV M.2) with a board of my choice. I went for the B850M Gaming Plus Wifi. Board came today. Installed the board, installed windows. Updated bios to the latest version. Turned EXPO on in BIOS, ran memtest86+ and.... Yup, failed. It failed so much memtest actually crashed, never seen that happen before. This is the picture I was able to take before it crashed, not sure if it makes anymore sense to you compared to the last one https://imgur.com/a/faZPrh8
Going to try the RAM 1 stick at a time now just to see if I can narrow it down to being a problem with the RAM. Really wanted to replace the CPU as a last resort because it was purchased from a 3rd party seller through the retailer and it would take much longer to get a refund - typical
EDIT - Tried both RAM sticks 1 at a time, they both fail straight away. The 2nd stick finds way more errors than the 1st one. I imagine 2 RAM sticks both being faulty is very very unlikely. It's almost certainly the CPU isn't it?
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I mean...I told you so
Would you agree that both RAM modules being defective is highly unlikely? It would have made much more sense for the issue to be RAM related if only 1 stick had errors and the other passed
Christ on a bike. I've built a fair few systems over the years and I've never, ever, had issues like this. I just hope it isn't PSU related with me only using a cheap PSU (MSI A650BN).
I was going to hold out for the replacement RAM to arrive but I just think I'm wasting more time. I'll start the return process on the CPU. Safe to say that my nephew won't be getting this system and I'll now encourage him to pay extra and get a pre-tested pre-built. It's just so much easier
Is that testing the RAM with EXPO enabled (at 6000), or running them at stock?
That's testing the RAM with EXPO enabled at 6000Mhz
If I run the RAM with EXPO off, or even EXPO on @ 5600MHz, they seem to be rock solid stable
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