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What the hell? I'm jumping across to Apple this iteration, and have just noticed that you don't even get a damn charger with it. For a phone costing £1399 that is ******* abhorrent.
I must have at least 10 USB-C chargers around the house, I don't need many more. With that said, I barely charge my phone via USB, I have a magnetic bedside charger.
 
What the hell? I'm jumping across to Apple this iteration, and have just noticed that you don't even get a damn charger with it. For a phone costing £1399 that is ******* abhorrent.
Eh? It’s £1199 for the pro max from
Apple. And there’s been no charger included for awhile.
 
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Eh? It’s £1199 for the pro max from
Apple. And there’s been no charger included for awhile.

256GB is 1199 but the 512GB is 1399.

And yes I'm still a little torn on the charger thing. On the one hand I do feel that the phone should come with one, but at the same time I've got countless USB-C chargers lurking around anyway, including about 5 or 6 genuine Apple ones. If my new phone came with one, I don't think I'd even take it out of the box.

I'm on O2 Switch Up and have been kind of looking for an excuse to move away from it because let's face it, O2's network sucks but then Switch Up itself is just really good and no other network has anything like it. As my wife said, it's a bit like a toxic relationship. You know you should get out of it but you can't. I've got no problem buying myself out of the contract but being able to change phone 3 months down the line just because I feel like it is quite nice.

Anyway O2's preorder situation was the worst I've ever seen it this year (for me anyway) but I was considering getting an Air instead of a Pro Max just to try out for a few months. In the end I did manage to get a Pro Max and I chose to mainly because of battery life but I was contemplating trying something new although I'm concerned about missing the extra screen size and resolution. I know when I moved from an 11 Pro Max to a standard 12 Pro back in the day I definitely regretted it. What is interesting to me is that all of the Airs seem to be available for launch day on O2 - I'm wondering if this is a case of them simply having more stock or if people just aren't interested. Anyone decided to try an Air instead of a Pro or Pro Max this time around?
 
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It’s called being eco friendly. Everyone has one. You forget yours, everyone has one at work, at your friends house etc.

I think it’s really good they arnt included anymore.
 
What the hell? I'm jumping across to Apple this iteration, and have just noticed that you don't even get a damn charger with it. For a phone costing £1399 that is ******* abhorrent.
You must also be jumping across from 2021 because the major players haven’t included a charger in the box since then :p
 
It’s called being eco friendly. Everyone has one. You forget yours, everyone has one at work, at your friends house etc.

I think it’s really good they arnt included anymore.
This is legit tragic, do you really think Apple did this to save the planet... or to make another few cents on the dollar for shareholders?

I'd rather have a new lead and plug each time than not, it's not exactly going to make a dent in the global electronics waste.
 
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This is legit tragic, do you really think Apple did this to save the planet... or to make another few cents on the dollar for shareholders?

I'd rather have a new lead and plug each time than not, it's not exactly going to make a dent in the global electronics waste.
Does not really bother me as have stacks of wireless chargers here plus all the big companies doing the same thing now. Would probably sooner buy me own anyway
 
This is legit tragic, do you really think Apple did this to save the planet... or to make another few cents on the dollar for shareholders?

I'd rather have a new lead and plug each time than not, it's not exactly going to make a dent in the global electronics waste.

Also means the boxes can be half the size so they can ship twice as many units in the same physical space. No doubt any cost benefits from that are not passed on to us though :D
 
This is legit tragic, do you really think Apple did this to save the planet... or to make another few cents on the dollar for shareholders?

I'd rather have a new lead and plug each time than not, it's not exactly going to make a dent in the global electronics waste.

I think it was actually something forced upon them. So long a go I can’t recall.

Yes they save some cash, same as not including those naff headphones.

It’s not really a biggy. Cables are everywhere. Actual chargers are expensive due to their complexity. TBH I have used MagSafe only for the last 3 years. My ports been used a handleful of times.

I get that if you’ve just realised this being use to Chinese phones (I had one plus for years) but it’s good overall.
 
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I think it was actually something forced upon them. So long a go I can’t recall.

Yes they save some cash, same as not including those naff headphones.

It’s not really a biggy. Cables are everywhere. Actual chargers are expensive due to their complexity. TBH I have used MagSafe only for the last 3 years. My ports been used a handleful of times.

I get that if you’ve just realised this being use to Chinese phones (I had one plus for years) but it’s good overall.

Any eco gain from not including has been paid for by the losses from mag charging.

I still use cables where I can, but a mag battery bank is pretty clean use.
 
I must have at least 10 USB-C chargers around the house, I don't need many more. With that said, I barely charge my phone via USB, I have a magnetic bedside charger.
The last time I used the phone port was with my iPhone XR. I have been fine with wireless charging all these years.
 
Done my yearly upgrade so I should get the 17 PM 2TB in Silver on launch day and an Ultra 3 on launch as well hopefully, iPhone prices are getting insane. Will sell my 16PM and Ultra 2 so I'll make a decent ammount back.

While the orange one is not that far off the colour of my car, I really didn't like it on a phone.

Wozer what you using on your phone that takes 2TB ? Frequent prores recording or you just enjoy max spec stuff?
 
256GB is 1199 but the 512GB is 1399.

And yes I'm still a little torn on the charger thing. On the one hand I do feel that the phone should come with one, but at the same time I've got countless USB-C chargers lurking around anyway, including about 5 or 6 genuine Apple ones. If my new phone came with one, I don't think I'd even take it out of the box.

I'm on O2 Switch Up and have been kind of looking for an excuse to move away from it because let's face it, O2's network sucks but then Switch Up itself is just really good and no other network has anything like it. As my wife said, it's a bit like a toxic relationship. You know you should get out of it but you can't. I've got no problem buying myself out of the contract but being able to change phone 3 months down the line just because I feel like it is quite nice.

Anyway O2's preorder situation was the worst I've ever seen it this year (for me anyway) but I was considering getting an Air instead of a Pro Max just to try out for a few months. In the end I did manage to get a Pro Max and I chose to mainly because of battery life but I was contemplating trying something new although I'm concerned about missing the extra screen size and resolution. I know when I moved from an 11 Pro Max to a standard 12 Pro back in the day I definitely regretted it. What is interesting to me is that all of the Airs seem to be available for launch day on O2 - I'm wondering if this is a case of them simply having more stock or if people just aren't interested. Anyone decided to try an Air instead of a Pro or Pro Max this time around?
Almost seems pointless as the price is almost the same. Unless you really really value the thinner size. Considering most people just use a case anyway for protection it just seems really niche.
 
Could anyone tell me am i right in thinking the 17 comes with Esim as well as a physical sim slot?

Read it seems to be but then else read it doesn't .

Thank you
 
Could anyone tell me am i right in thinking the 17 comes with Esim as well as a physical sim slot?

Read it seems to be but then else read it doesn't .

Thank you
Yes. It supports two eSIMs and one physical SIM (but only two at the same time).

 
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I hate that we get a 17 PM with a physical sim slot, which means we get shafted with less battery life. I haven't used a physical sim in around 7 years, so paying the same price for a phone with less battery life bloody annoys me. If I worked it out right, we get about 5% less battery life than the eSIM only US models on the PM.
 
Yep I still use a physical SIM because there’s been no real point in changing to eSIM. If we got an eSIM only phone that would obviously be reason enough to do it, but gaining marginally better battery life as a knock on effect would make the whole thing worthwhile.
 
Yep I still use a physical SIM because there’s been no real point in changing to eSIM. If we got an eSIM only phone that would obviously be reason enough to do it, but gaining marginally better battery life as a knock on effect would make the whole thing worthwhile.
More secure and less chance of simjacking was a good enough reason for me.
 
Never heard of sim jacking?

AFAIK yu can’t transfer an eSim to another phone unless you go through the whole transfer of the entire phone. QR codes are one time use and you need to have the phone near by to do set up via another phone. Some companies don’t even allow the transfer to a new phone either and you have to get a new number then transfer the number across.

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I’d rather they just got rid of the sim and gave that little bit of a bigger battery and would force networks/carriers to improve.
 
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