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Chelsea going to get battered going into the stadium for Their champion league game!!
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That’s shelvey isn’t it?
Now that we’ve hit the international break, it feels like a good time to take stock of our opening three fixtures and the close of the transfer window. Two points from a possible nine isn’t ideal — in fact, it’s our worst start since 2008–09 under King Kev’s second spell before Chris Hughton stepped in.
However, it's also one of the hardest run-ins we've had for a few seasons, and we knew it wasn't going to be easy. Saying that, it’s hard to swallow when, in at least two of the three games, we were the better side but couldn’t turn that into a win. With Isak playing, I think we win all three. Even without him, I’d back us to beat Liverpool if we’d managed to keep eleven men on the pitch. But we can't be relying on one player to win our matches, so I'm glad we've (hopefully) addressed that with our new signings.
The Liverpool game has left its mark, though — Gordon’s suspension and the injuries piled up, and we really felt the absence of those key players against Leeds. For all the depth we’re building, the backups still aren’t at the first-choice level. They’ve got the potential, and Eddie Howe has proven he can develop players, but they didn't click against Leeds.
Elland Road is never an easy place to go, and Leeds are strong at home (even if that record is in the Championship). A draw might look better once we see how the other top sides get on there, but it still feels like the sort of game we should be finding a way to win.
There were some individual frustrations, too. Bruno looked off the pace — maybe fatigue after Liverpool, maybe just one of his "late kick-off away from home against a lower-table team" off-days, but he wasn’t dictating the midfield the way he normally does. Murphy didn't find his rhythm either, but then he hasn't had much game time. And with Osula, you can see why he didn’t start the first two matches — he’s raw, not the finished article, but there’s something there, and it’s good we kept hold of him. The bigger issue was the obvious lack of an experienced out-and-out striker.
The transfer window at least brought reinforcements. We’ve strengthened across the squad, and now the question is which of the new strikers starts against Wolves — Woltemade, young and raw like Isak when he first arrived, or Wissa, who brings proven Premier League experience. Beyond them, Ramsey has impressed, and Elanga has plenty of potential — the extra depth will be important given the demands of Champions League football. For now, though, there’s a lot of bedding-in to do.
So it’s a frustrating start — but also too early to panic. Howe’s teams have often started slowly before improving as the season goes on. With fresh faces learning the system and key players returning, I’m cautiously optimistic. Let's see where we're at by Christmas.
However, it's also one of the hardest run-ins we've had for a few seasons, and we knew it wasn't going to be easy. Saying that, it’s hard to swallow when, in at least two of the three games, we were the better side but couldn’t turn that into a win. With Isak playing, I think we win all three. Even without him, I’d back us to beat Liverpool if we’d managed to keep eleven men on the pitch. But we can't be relying on one player to win our matches, so I'm glad we've (hopefully) addressed that with our new signings.
The Liverpool game has left its mark, though — Gordon’s suspension and the injuries piled up, and we really felt the absence of those key players against Leeds. For all the depth we’re building, the backups still aren’t at the first-choice level. They’ve got the potential, and Eddie Howe has proven he can develop players, but they didn't click against Leeds.
Elland Road is never an easy place to go, and Leeds are strong at home (even if that record is in the Championship). A draw might look better once we see how the other top sides get on there, but it still feels like the sort of game we should be finding a way to win.
There were some individual frustrations, too. Bruno looked off the pace — maybe fatigue after Liverpool, maybe just one of his "late kick-off away from home against a lower-table team" off-days, but he wasn’t dictating the midfield the way he normally does. Murphy didn't find his rhythm either, but then he hasn't had much game time. And with Osula, you can see why he didn’t start the first two matches — he’s raw, not the finished article, but there’s something there, and it’s good we kept hold of him. The bigger issue was the obvious lack of an experienced out-and-out striker.
The transfer window at least brought reinforcements. We’ve strengthened across the squad, and now the question is which of the new strikers starts against Wolves — Woltemade, young and raw like Isak when he first arrived, or Wissa, who brings proven Premier League experience. Beyond them, Ramsey has impressed, and Elanga has plenty of potential — the extra depth will be important given the demands of Champions League football. For now, though, there’s a lot of bedding-in to do.
So it’s a frustrating start — but also too early to panic. Howe’s teams have often started slowly before improving as the season goes on. With fresh faces learning the system and key players returning, I’m cautiously optimistic. Let's see where we're at by Christmas.
I still feel like it's preseason. League starts in 10 days.
I think looking purely at results in isolation they are as good as I would have expected. We are nowhere near the point where results against Liverpool are season defining like they are for Arsenal and City. Expected a loss there as I did away to Villa. Leeds will target wins at Elland rd. to keep them up and a point there for a club like us is a good result but teams with real top 4 aspirations are going there to win and whether it was to rest players (after 2 games) or what, but Howe went there for a point.
Having said all that after watching the games they were all there for the taking, we didn't play well at Leeds but were certainly the better side in the first two games. I think with a good centre forward we win them both which sees us sitting on 7 points.
The squad is going into the new season (which starts in ten days
) in a stronger position than where it ended last season and in fact in a stronger position than after all but 1 of the last 6 transfer windows.
I think Howe will start Wissa but he has generally been very careful with new signings, even with those used to the premier league. We saw it with Tino and Barnes (who he barely starts even now). Took him nearly a year to put Hall in the team. I think we will see a slow introduction for Woltemade who probably won't be in the no 9 position anyway.
The transfer window and how the club handled it embarrassed me. It played right up to the stereotype other fans and media have of Newcastle fans. A couple of top 5 finishes, a mickey mouse cup win by the standards of the big teams and we think we are suddenly the Barcelona of the North fully cemented at the top table where we belong. Elbowing clubs that have been there for decades out of the way.
The reality of that is very different. The club don't have the financial, historical or geographic pull to land the real top targets. We did it once in 1996 with the world's best player who was always going to sign for us, despite what Man Utd fans think. The only advantage Newcastle has over others is the extraordinary gravitational pull it has on the local boys who have grown up in a one club football mad town which is quite unlike any other.
I did like the way they didn't initially give in to player power but it became apparent even to outsiders quite quickly that the only resolution was he was going to leave. The club must have known this post cup final and had plenty of time to engineer the best solution for all concerned. I don't actually think they could have made a worse job of handling it. Then to make bids, however serious, on players who had sights set at bigger clubs thinking we could somehow woo them was naive at best and just added to the general circus.
Howe has delivered a stat defying escape from relegation, two champions league qualifications, two cup finals and a trophy since the end of 2021. The backing he has belatedly received in the transfer market means expectations are high but while Liverpool, City, Arsenal and Chelsea remain immune from the Protek Shun Racket (PSR) then what does success look like for Newcastle United this season? Battling it out with Spurs, Man Utd, Villa and Brighton for a European spot and go one better than last season and bag the FA cup. Will be difficult with the extra games the CL brings with it. You like to hope they can somehow fluke their way to a seeded playoff game to get into the next round of that.
Away from the pitch the club need to get on with the appointment of a team of execs that a club with regular Champs league qualification aspirations should have. Make good on their promise of improved training facilities and put to bed this talk of a new stadium. I don't think they need one, really want one or have anywhere viable to put it.
They also need to radically invest or revamp the youth set up which has been failing for 20 years or more. Newcastle is by far the biggest club in the geographical real north of England and should be able to hoover up and support all the talented players in the area and be first port of call for them, for too long better kids have been produced by both Sunderland and Middlesbrough. You see youth players at other prem clubs on loan in the championship or some of Europe's lesser leagues, meanwhile Newcastle's kids are out on loan at clubs like Coleraine and Ashington.
Not only is this going to become imperative for PSR reasons but the club don't actually have enough home grown players to field a full squad for the champions league games. Pathetic.
Can't wait for the season to start though with what looks like 4 winnable league games in a row. HWTL
I think looking purely at results in isolation they are as good as I would have expected. We are nowhere near the point where results against Liverpool are season defining like they are for Arsenal and City. Expected a loss there as I did away to Villa. Leeds will target wins at Elland rd. to keep them up and a point there for a club like us is a good result but teams with real top 4 aspirations are going there to win and whether it was to rest players (after 2 games) or what, but Howe went there for a point.
Having said all that after watching the games they were all there for the taking, we didn't play well at Leeds but were certainly the better side in the first two games. I think with a good centre forward we win them both which sees us sitting on 7 points.
The squad is going into the new season (which starts in ten days
) in a stronger position than where it ended last season and in fact in a stronger position than after all but 1 of the last 6 transfer windows.I think Howe will start Wissa but he has generally been very careful with new signings, even with those used to the premier league. We saw it with Tino and Barnes (who he barely starts even now). Took him nearly a year to put Hall in the team. I think we will see a slow introduction for Woltemade who probably won't be in the no 9 position anyway.
The transfer window and how the club handled it embarrassed me. It played right up to the stereotype other fans and media have of Newcastle fans. A couple of top 5 finishes, a mickey mouse cup win by the standards of the big teams and we think we are suddenly the Barcelona of the North fully cemented at the top table where we belong. Elbowing clubs that have been there for decades out of the way.
The reality of that is very different. The club don't have the financial, historical or geographic pull to land the real top targets. We did it once in 1996 with the world's best player who was always going to sign for us, despite what Man Utd fans think. The only advantage Newcastle has over others is the extraordinary gravitational pull it has on the local boys who have grown up in a one club football mad town which is quite unlike any other.
I did like the way they didn't initially give in to player power but it became apparent even to outsiders quite quickly that the only resolution was he was going to leave. The club must have known this post cup final and had plenty of time to engineer the best solution for all concerned. I don't actually think they could have made a worse job of handling it. Then to make bids, however serious, on players who had sights set at bigger clubs thinking we could somehow woo them was naive at best and just added to the general circus.
Howe has delivered a stat defying escape from relegation, two champions league qualifications, two cup finals and a trophy since the end of 2021. The backing he has belatedly received in the transfer market means expectations are high but while Liverpool, City, Arsenal and Chelsea remain immune from the Protek Shun Racket (PSR) then what does success look like for Newcastle United this season? Battling it out with Spurs, Man Utd, Villa and Brighton for a European spot and go one better than last season and bag the FA cup. Will be difficult with the extra games the CL brings with it. You like to hope they can somehow fluke their way to a seeded playoff game to get into the next round of that.
Away from the pitch the club need to get on with the appointment of a team of execs that a club with regular Champs league qualification aspirations should have. Make good on their promise of improved training facilities and put to bed this talk of a new stadium. I don't think they need one, really want one or have anywhere viable to put it.
They also need to radically invest or revamp the youth set up which has been failing for 20 years or more. Newcastle is by far the biggest club in the geographical real north of England and should be able to hoover up and support all the talented players in the area and be first port of call for them, for too long better kids have been produced by both Sunderland and Middlesbrough. You see youth players at other prem clubs on loan in the championship or some of Europe's lesser leagues, meanwhile Newcastle's kids are out on loan at clubs like Coleraine and Ashington.
Not only is this going to become imperative for PSR reasons but the club don't actually have enough home grown players to field a full squad for the champions league games. Pathetic.
Can't wait for the season to start though with what looks like 4 winnable league games in a row. HWTL
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There was so much good work getting overshadowed because of our Striker search and the Isak drama. We secured 3 long term targets and somehow managed to pull a rabbit out of the hat with the BFG and Wissa. I really think we needed it as the squad needed an overhaul and we brought in 6 players!! Moving forward we should be in a much better place to buy and trade players as we have sellable assets now instead of the junk left over from Mike Ashley.
We've just announced our new CEO. Which has felt a long time coming. Hopefully a sporting director is soon to follow and investments in infrastructure, youth and woman's team.
www.newcastleunited.com
We've just announced our new CEO. Which has felt a long time coming. Hopefully a sporting director is soon to follow and investments in infrastructure, youth and woman's team.
Newcastle United appoint David Hopkinson as new CEO - Newcastle United
Newcastle United are delighted to announce the appointment of David Hopkinson as the club's new Chief Executive Officer.
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Hopefully Wissa chooses his Geordie Princess a little better than his French one
www.bbc.com
Newcastle: Yoane Wissa 'never gave up' after acid attack
Yoane Wissa showed a "determination to succeed" after being a victim of an acid attack in 2021 - and that drive has been a constant factor in the career of Newcastle's new signing.
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Craig Hope ran an article last night about all the major updates. There’s an order they want to deliver keys updates on.
CEO - done
Sporting Director - expected to be Ross from forest.
New training ground- one offer has already been sent for land this year but they decided to move on due to cost. Two other sites getting looked at and announcement expected this autumn.
New stadium or St.James redevelopment- new stadium is still preferred but due to how complicated it is they don’t want to announce anything yet incase it has to change.
New club crest has been pushed out to 27/28.
Certainly starting to feels like we moving onto the next stage of this project finally.
CEO - done
Sporting Director - expected to be Ross from forest.
New training ground- one offer has already been sent for land this year but they decided to move on due to cost. Two other sites getting looked at and announcement expected this autumn.
New stadium or St.James redevelopment- new stadium is still preferred but due to how complicated it is they don’t want to announce anything yet incase it has to change.
New club crest has been pushed out to 27/28.
Certainly starting to feels like we moving onto the next stage of this project finally.
So still absolutely nothing on training ground or stadium. Other than some unknown site that may or may not exist, situated in what has historically been one of the poorest areas of England, was too expensive for the PIF to put their Champions League club on it. Reeto.
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You can believe it or not. Just repeating what Craig has been told. It’s a 200m plus investment that’s been mitted with mini Stadium for the Woman’s team. They hardly going to knock it up over night. They have hired Populous to design it.
Aye appreciate that but the appointments while welcomed are at least 12 months overdue. There is little other evidence that the club is moving onto the next stage. I admired Hopey when Ashley barred him from the club but he is sounding more like a club mouthpiece every week these days.
He'll have plenty of time as he's injured isn't heHopefully Wissa chooses his Geordie Princess a little better than his French one
Newcastle: Yoane Wissa 'never gave up' after acid attack
Yoane Wissa showed a "determination to succeed" after being a victim of an acid attack in 2021 - and that drive has been a constant factor in the career of Newcastle's new signing.
Knee good for them at the moment then?
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Talk this morning that wissa has done his ACL, typical Newcastle luck that we sign a player that hasn’t had an injury for almost 2 years and as soon as we sign him we loose him for 9 months