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E.g Kia/hyundai you need to have a main dealer service according to their schedules and little leeway. MG needs the same and has apparently more exclusions
They can't force main dealer only, it's against the law. Just needs to be a VAT registered garage/mechanic and serviced to manufacturer spec.
 
Ford Puma-E down even further. I doubt this will ever be beaten, even by a BYD etc.

£139 inc VAT on a 1+23.


@jpaul when you are you placing your order, you were going to get one when they dropped below £350... ?
 
Damn. If only that came out a month earlier... :(
I'd have totally got that gen-e and waited a couple of years to swap to a highland model 3
 
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Ford Puma-E down even further. I doubt this will ever be beaten, even by a BYD etc.

£139 inc VAT on a 1+23.


@jpaul when you are you placing your order, you were going to get one when they dropped below £350... ?
The charge cable is 1 micron to thin for him
 
Damn. If only that came out a month earlier... :(
I'd have totally got that gen-e and waited a couple of years to swap to a highland model 3

It's a pretty crazy deal under £3.4k for two full years, take off the fuel savings if moving from a 50mpg ICE car for just 10k miles and you are at a shade over £2.2k, or ~£92 per month.
 
It's a pretty crazy deal under £3.4k for two full years, take off the fuel savings if moving from a 50mpg ICE car for just 10k miles and you are at a shade over £2.2k, or ~£92 per month.
It'll have paid for itself coming from my 32mpg (combined, real world) 440i lol
 
Ford Puma-E down even further. I doubt this will ever be beaten, even by a BYD etc.

£139 inc VAT on a 1+23.


@jpaul when you are you placing your order, you were going to get one when they dropped below £350... ?
Well the Atto is hardly competition in many ways https://www.topgear.com/car-reviews/byd/atto-2
 
So missus has just signed up for a iX1, coming from an X1 2.3 xDrive, not cheap at £500 a month but she was paying £525 a month so a little saving and the fact we can change to an EV tariff and no longer have to fill it she’ll be ok, she’d done nearly 8k miles I 2 years so an electric makes sense
 
I'm sure it been discussed to death on here but recommendations for a home EV charger?

My wife took the handbrake off, not noticing the charger was still plugged in to the car and rolled down our drive, taking the wall charger with her. (To be fair there was a skip in front of the car and it was not obvious it was plugged in)

Only requirements are that it must be compatible with Intelligent Octopus Go. From a quick look around the Ohme Home Pro is cheapest at £530, or the Hypervolt Home Pro 3 at £630.
 
I'm just curious, the list price for the gen-e select model is £30k
So if one is paying £3.4k for 2 years, and factoring in depreciation and admin overheads...how the hell are they making any money?

A dealership is not paying list price from the factory…
 
The list price on most modern cars is also pure fantasy to the point it’s almost pointless.

It unnecessarily pushes up BIK costs for company car drivers and VED in the at £32-40k range (real price).
 
So had a drive of the CLA 250+ AMG Pro this morning. Coming from an ioniq 5, I was curious about the interior space especially for the driver. It does fell more enclosed than my Ioniq 5, but TBH most cars do, but once inside seating position and view was great and sisnt feel as closed in as I did in a polestar 2. Driving was impressive, doesn't have double glazed windows, but the glass was very thick and when driving it was extremely quiet. Regen braking was good and the low/no regen mode had very impressive rolling resistance, much better than my Ioniq 5. Economy (if that's the correct term) was great, when I was going up and down the A1 it was giving me a good mid/high 4s and in town well over, this is probably an easy 400+ mile car 450 probably achievable if being a bit sensible. Few things I wasn't fond of the OS was a bit confusing, but alerts etc was easy to turn off as was the AC. Rear seat space will be an issue for people over 6 foot and its probably only suitable for 2 adults or 3 small kids, door opening isn't that wide so child seats might be a problem, dont have kids but didn't look to be much room. Driving the car was great, quick enough for most, steering was on point, suspension setup was a great compromise and was a nicer drive than my ioniq 5, The strange noises it plays when accelerating was fun at first, but soon turned them off lol. All in a good car, the new drive system is a massive upgrade to older electric Mercs I've driven, and was a good upgrade drive wise to my ioniq 5, just wish it was abit bigger, but that will come with other models.
 
You can also factor in the fines they'd theoretically get (per vehicle) for selling too many ICE cars compared to EV under the ZEV mandate - they may well be happy to absorb some loss on these to help on that front.

You also have the simple "we want to get the car out there and look popular" marketing approach that leads to lots of deals being available.
 
A dealership is not paying list price from the factory…

I know they won't be, but it has to be significantly cheaper for it to make any sense though.

Say the depreciation is 40% after 2 years from list price, that's £18k.
£18k + £3.4k = £21.4k and that's just to break even and not taking admin/profit into account.

They'll have to be paying sub-£20k for the sums just to work I'd suspect.

Assuming that no parties are making a loss, 33% off list price for a brand new model is crazy lol...yet another case of rip-off Britain...
 
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