Where did I ask "In which case what difference would it make if anyone were to "stop gaming as a protest to this"?"
Are you ok?
Post #156 - your question "So when you all going to stop gaming as a protest to this?" being a strong implication that stopping gaming would be a protest to this
On the off chance that you are actually struggling to follow the discussion (instead of just being deliberately obtuse as it appears on the surface), I'll lay it out for you chronologically with some analysis to make it a bit easier:
Noxia - 11/09/2025 @ 21:59:
So when you all going to stop gaming as a protest to this?
The initial poster poses a question as to when "you" (i.e. the participants in the thread) are going to stop gaming in protest; the implication being that stopping gaming will send the message to those (payment processors) who are controlling access to certain content that they do not find their censorship of said content acceptable.
Haggisman - 15/09/2025 @ 10:03:
Stop gaming? Don't be ridiculous.
Refusing to financially support those who sell games? That's a different question...
To quote the big man (Gabe) himself:
"We think there is a fundamental misconception about <redacted>. <redacted> is almost always a service problem and not a pricing problem,"
The responding poster responds to the question posed above, with the stance that stopping gaming is unnecessary, and suggests that it is possible to continue to do so through "other means" which do not involve supporting the payment processors, along with a quote from a very well known individual in the game development & sales sector, summarising the fact that most people only use "other means" of procuring content when doing so by legitimate means becomes too onerous.
Noxia - 15/09/2025 @ 10:25:
Visa don't sell games, nor do Mastercard. If Steam can't process payment due to policies set by those companies I hardly think it's their fault.
The initial poster responds with an irrelevant statement pointing out that the payment processors do not sell games, and that it is not a specific games distributor's fault if they are unable to process payments due to the payment processors' refusal to allow payment for censored content.
Haggisman - 15/09/2025 @ 10:31:
In which case what difference would it make if anyone were to "stop gaming as a protest to this"?
Visa/Mastercard will lose out on any processing fees if people stop buying games, whether from Steam or anywhere else.
The responding poster becomes confused at the initial poster's response (the initial question strongly implied that stopping gaming would send a message, this subsequent statement directly conflicts with that implication), and asks them to clarify their position. The responding poster then also clarifies their position, that while the payment processors do not directly sell games, they still gain financial from the fees applied through games sales, and that this is not specific to any particular games distributor.
Noxia - 15/09/2025 @ 10:37:
Is that a serious question?
The initial poster seems to have become confused and/or is unable/unwilling to clarify their position, apparently forgetting that it was their original question which started the particular discussion.
Haggisman - 15/09/2025 @ 10:50:
I don't know, you originally asked it.
The responding poster attempts to remind the initial poster that it was their original question which started the particular discussion.
Noxia - 15/09/2025 @ 10:56:
Where did I ask "In which case what difference would it make if anyone were to "stop gaming as a protest to this"?"
Are you ok?
The initial poster becomes further confused, and becomes increasingly hostile, asking if the responding poster is "ok", in an attempt to divert from the fact that they are struggling to follow the flow of discussion.
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Let me know if that clears it up for you, or you need any more help
