Borderlands 4 (2025)
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Wonder if its a 5090 thing, no crashes yet on my 5070TI (fullscreen), no crashes yet on my other halves 4070TI (fullscreen).
No idea. Anecdotal, but it appears people using RTX 4000 series cards ( and AMD GPUs ) are having fewer issues.
We spent 18 hours playing in 3-way co-op on LAN over the weekend. All using 9800X3D CPUs but I have a 4090 whereas my friends both have 3090s.
Friends had quite a few crashes over the weekend whereas I didn't have a single one. Make of that what you will.
There is an in-game FPS counter you can utilise. Normally I use Afterburner/Rivatuner though.
Note also that, with the full in-game FPS counter, if you're using framegen then the GPU still displays the raw frametime in milliseconds so you can see how much the framegen is boosting/helping (divide the GPU figure into 1000 for 'raw' fps)
No crashes yet on my 5090, after around 9 hours of play, in borderless windowed mode.
Have to say I'm with Randy on the 4K thing - why is everyone so obsessed with "4K gaming"?
I get that for some types of game, like RTS or world-building stuff, the high resolution is very desirable. For 'action' style games though, it's a total waste of time, sapping FPS for no real visual benefit. DLSS is so good these days you can't tell the difference from native 99% of the time. I've been using DLSS Quality with BL4 and literally can't tell the difference from native resolution.
I'm actually intending to get a 5K2K monitor at some point but for productivity usage. When it comes to games, I'm not expecting to run fast-paced games at native 5120x2160 most of the time and will instead be leaning more heavily on DLSS.
I find it amusing how disparaging people are about upscaling or framegen.
I get that for some types of game, like RTS or world-building stuff, the high resolution is very desirable. For 'action' style games though, it's a total waste of time, sapping FPS for no real visual benefit. DLSS is so good these days you can't tell the difference from native 99% of the time. I've been using DLSS Quality with BL4 and literally can't tell the difference from native resolution.
I'm actually intending to get a 5K2K monitor at some point but for productivity usage. When it comes to games, I'm not expecting to run fast-paced games at native 5120x2160 most of the time and will instead be leaning more heavily on DLSS.
I find it amusing how disparaging people are about upscaling or framegen.
It would be a fair point if the graphics were super amazing wow fab groovy, but they’re nothing to write home about. What’s all the GPU power being used on? I don’t think BL4 is a particularly well optimised game
That hidden UE5 magic.
No crashes on my 4090 yet, put in 5 hours now, seems stable so far. Running full screen, HDR, DLSS Quality, Frame Gen on and Badass preset
Shader compilation was also quick, took 30 seconds and no crashing during it
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always RTSS
Strongly disagree. I got rid of my 3440*1440 OLED after using my 4k screen on games because it looked terrible in comparison, some games worse than others, Hogwarts was a standout.
Saying there's no real visual benefi just sounds like someone who hasn't actually a b tested their games, or can't play at 4k so dismisses it.
Much like how people dismiss RT until they get a card that can do it well and then suddenly it's a good thing.
I've just read his tweet and it sounds like he's trying to do damage control and doing the opposite lol.
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When I had my 4k monitor, it definitely looked better, ultimately though the drop in fps was just too much for me and I returned to my ultrawide oled 1440. Didnt look as good (apart from the colours looked better on my oled than my 4k) but way more fps. I just couldnt justify the percentage loss of fps vs the percentage gain in image quality. One day, when theres more oomph in the boxes, I'll no doubt return to 4k, mind you, by then people will be gaming on 8k monitors 
When I had my 4k monitor, it definitely looked better, ultimately though the drop in fps was just too much for me and I returned to my ultrawide oled 1440. Didnt look as good (apart from the colours looked better on my oled than my 4k) but way more fps. I just couldnt justify the percentage loss of fps vs the percentage gain in image quality. One day, when theres more oomph in the boxes, I'll no doubt return to 4k, mind you, by then people will be gaming on 8k monitors
That's the point I was trying to make, that sometimes you're far better off dropping the res to improve FPS.
Of course 4K or RT will look better, the point is that quite often 1440p with high FPS will be a far better overall experience than 4K with low FPS and people lose sight of this. If they can't run a game at 4K/RT with everything on, then it must be broken.
If you can lean on DLSS to upscale to your display's native res then even better and frankly I'd challenge anyone to tell the difference between 4K native and DLSS Quality in a fast-paced game, yet there still seems to be so much disdain targetted towards using DLSS versus "native" rendering.
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Doesn't have to be a choice, you can have both. That's where I agree with Randy about people expecting too much with order hardware.
I think you're onto something ... perhaps some of the "power" is being siphoned off to keep Epic's Fortnite servers running
It still is a fair point, but yes the game does appear to be poorly optimised.
That said they’ll always be the 8GB old hardware crowd that’ll waaah no matter how a game performs.
I mean one wouldn’t turn up to Santa Pod in a Ford Fiesta and expect a 9 second quarter mile time.
Right tool for the job and all that.