well yes it is if you're one of those living under the illusion we should be pushing for a top 4 position. but that's not where utd currently are. the squad is plenty good enough not to be entertaining talk of relegation again this season.
Poll: AmorIn or AmorOut?
- Thread starter Robbo
- Start date
Last season was really quite bizarre. Amorim struggled badly but it was sort of glossed over in the hope we'd win the Europa League. In fairness it is an awkward job and he got the benefit of the doubt, perhaps too much.
I believe we have a reasonably strong set of players that can do a lot better than this. It's inexplicable people are talking about relegation.
Agreed on the last point, they need to take decisive action so I think the situation is probably being analysed on a game-by-game basis...
If they boot amorim they'll (the like of wilcox and berrada) will have egg on their faces, don't forget the little coup in getting rid of ashworth because he ddidnt think amorim was up to the task, the current man utd leadership team don't strike me as the types to admit they are wrong particularly.
Very true but also is Utd bigger problem and one reason I think ever manager has struggled, the club just isn’t run right and hasn’t been for a decade now.
Utd have had multiple good managers and all faced similar problems only thing that’s not really changed much is the ones above over the years
Dodgy keeper(s), young striker, no midfield. Amad looks poor, Dalot is poor, Dorgu no end product, Ugarte poor, OAP Casemiro. It's not a high quality team.
And the biggest issue - lack of fight in the team. No pace, no strength, very little desire apart from in the first match.
Remember when people said it couldn't get worse than EtH? Things can always get worse.
Last edited:
U w0t... They're world class M8
We laugh, but I 100% think Southgate for a few seasons would have been the better appointment when they booted ten hag
As a Liverpool supporter they are world class to meU w0t... They're world class M8
I don’t think he would go, any manager with sense wouldn’t wanna go there atm not unless infrastructure was changed.
Amorim should stay least till there relegated then his job is done and he can leave.
over all, no it most certainly isn't, certainly not of the quality required to push for a top 4 league position. but the quality is not that poor that they should be anywhere near relegation.
agreed. we still look too emotionally fragile. there's no players willing or capable of 'grabbing a game by scruff of the neck' when things start to go pear shaped. almost like there's not real leadership on the pitch.
pace i don't think is an issue. the lads that have come in are no slouches, amad can put the afterburners on too so pace shouldn't be an issue. but yea, physical and mental strength seem desperately lacking. both cunha and mbuemo certainly seem much more robust physically and much harder to push off the ball, their mental strength will undoubtedly be put to the test this season
ohhh there's a whole lot more 'worserer' to come, with or without Amorim in charge.
there's still seemingly something fundamentally wrong at the core of the club, whether that be ineos or the glazers i really don't know. but the club is more like somewhere players and managers go to die. Old Trafford has turned from fortress to graveyard and until the root cause of that is sorted it won't matter what players the club buy or who they appoint as a manager.
Just on your first point what are you basing that on? You were near relegation last season and 95% of your squad is the same.
Why are you along with other utd fans (not all) getting this impression from?
I’m not saying this as a Liverpool fan to wind you up. It really does seem like part of utd fan base problem is not accepting your position from a football playing term.
This squad is that bad last season form showed it and it’s continued.
If they get beat by Chelsea (highly likely) playing the standard formation (again highly likely) - I think the questions then need to be asked of the manager
Best player in the last 5 years has been Bruno - the system clearly doesn't suit him deeper playing.... The wing backs just simply don't produce any end product - whether that's a shot/cross/thru ball etc.
Like Keane said yesterday - players in glove, chewing gum, strolling around after the game like nothings happened, no yellow cards.... It's meant to be a derby against your biggest local rivals.... But it just looked like another match to the players on that pitch...
Best player in the last 5 years has been Bruno - the system clearly doesn't suit him deeper playing.... The wing backs just simply don't produce any end product - whether that's a shot/cross/thru ball etc.
Like Keane said yesterday - players in glove, chewing gum, strolling around after the game like nothings happened, no yellow cards.... It's meant to be a derby against your biggest local rivals.... But it just looked like another match to the players on that pitch...
Just basing it on my own opinion of the apparent abilities of the individual players currently at the club.
You really think the United squad is relegation quality? While there are obviously glaring holes in the squad, quality wise, I don’t buy that the rest aren’t good enough to be pushing top 10. And certainly performing a whole lot better than they are.
You’re basically saying the squad is performing at its expected level, rather than underperforming - I’d put that claim in the same bracket as the United fans thinking we’d be top 4 this season.
Last edited:
I think on there current performance most of your squad is yes as a collective unit.
Do I think the players themselves are all relegation quality no. Your squad does not function well as a unit and that’s the problem.
I can’t stand Bruno as player but he isn’t relegation bad nor is Casemiro but again stick all your players together and they don’t work.
That’s on this manager and the ones before him and the rubbish structure above. There is no signs of that changing either hence me saying utds current squad could very easily stay in exact position in now if not worse relegation
If the gulf between the championship and prem wasn’t so massive, we’d have been down last season. No penalty against blood Burnley and we’d be in the relegation zone now.
You seriously don’t think we could get relegated? I think we absolutely could if Amorin doesn’t drastically turn things around.
Soldato
- Joined
- 21 Sep 2020
- Posts
- 5,146
I thought everyone was coming around to the idea that they actually are relegation quality. The players are awful compared to other players in the league.
We’re even getting main media reporting it’s the players and not the system now.
I think you and I are actually in agreement - it’s just maybe got lost.
I’d agree the current results would suggest maybe relegation material - but if the squad were performing more as an actual team, and the keepers weren’t prone to howlers almost every game there is enough quality there that relegation shouldn’t be an issue.
The footballing ability is there not to be relegated - whether the mentality or character of the team or indeed ability of the manger is the same is definitely still up in the air.
Everyone?? Maybe you’re all correct and it’s only me but I don’t believe that at all. There’s more than enough ability in the team not to be in a relegation scrap.
Amorim won't be here much longer without a swift upturn in results. No matter what the club say they won't allow him to have us in 14th/15th place come October.
It's my view that our strongest XI are easily top half under a good manager. Put the players in their natural positions and coach them properly - things will start to improve. Amorim is currently overloading them with useless information and people suddenly think they're Championship quality - they aren't.
As for the board/people above, that's a whole other issue (and a serious one) but in terms of results every week, Amorim is the more immediate problem unless he tries to change something.
I know we had all of this under ETH but it's likely just the case that ETH wasn't actually very good, and Amorim has taken this job on too early in his career and can't handle it. There's nothing more to it than that.