Gaming PC advice

tamzzy said:
Modular is overrated lol. That case is big enough to make stashing the cables a non-issue.
650w is also overkill for a 7600+9060xt (could even run this on a 450w PSU if desperate)

Unless theres a more than reasonable chance of swapping over to a xx70xt or xx70ti class graphics card...not really worth spending more on the power supply. The ab650n is good enough and the extra outlay for a higher wattage psu is wasted money IMO.
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When I'm finally done with my spaghetti monster/kraken of a PSU I'm mailing you the thing so you can understand my trauma. :p

That said, the main reason for the extra power would be upgrade potential as he stated his son might go down a rabbit hole. Replacing the PSU is a bit of a PITA if he decides to jump up a tier or two, 750W should be good for any 5070ti/9070XT level GPU launched in the next few years. I actually think the MSI ABN PSU's are stellar for the asking price, probably the best "budget" units on the market tbh, especially compared to some of the plap put out by Kolink and even bigger names like Corsair.
 
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Gray2233 said:
When I'm finally done with my spaghetti monster/kraken of a PSU I'm mailing you the thing so you can understand my trauma.
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I've built many a pc with fixed cables with zero issues :cry:
Happy to have a free PSU if you're offering though :D

Gray2233 said:
That said, the main reason for the extra power would be upgrade potential as he stated his son might go down a rabbit hole.
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No disputing that lol. Just putting it out there as well as need to balance the chance of upgrading and actually upgrading. Most people won't, and the ones that do usually only upgrade to the same class of card (eg 2060 - 5060) and hence similar power usage and no need for a beefier PSU IE wasted money.
 
tamzzy said:
I've built many a pc with fixed cables with zero issues :cry:
Happy to have a free PSU if you're offering though :D
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You have not experienced the Bitfenix Formula Gold.

If you were magically transported to ye'olden times you could beat a bloke in full plate armour to death from a good meter + away with the thing and it'd probably still work afterwards. :cry:

It honestly has the longest and stiffest cables I've ever come across on a PSU by a huge margin, they're bloody bulky/thick too.
 
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7600 is a retail CPU so doesn't it come with a wraith cooler?

So is the £30 cooler worth it other than RGB or better spent on something else?


Also that monitor Overclockers made a boo boo...
If you open the link the url lists it under 1440p monitors but the page says its a 1080p monitor, on the right hand side of the screen it says its a VA panel under the picture on the left it says its a IPS panel... But its a great price for 180Hz if thats right.
 
NetMan said:
7600 is a retail CPU so doesn't it come with a wraith cooler?

So is the £30 cooler worth it other than RGB or better spent on something else?


Also that monitor Overclockers made a boo boo...
If you open the link the url lists it under 1440p monitors but the page says its a 1080p monitor, on the right hand side of the screen it says its a VA panel under the picture on the left it says its a IPS panel... But its a great price for 180Hz if thats right.
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Part of my recommending the Thermalright is that it's an extremely strong air based HSF but also very cheap for what it offers, it might not be entirely necessary but it will work with most future upgrades the OP's son might go down. I've autistic family/friends and often familiarity/consistency is as important as anything else, so buying a good HSF from the get go might help in that regard too if more CPU power became a requirement.

As for the monitor? I honestly don't know what they're thinking, it showed up under 1080P/gaming for me but the site is often off spec wise for a lot of products lately. For £70 I'd take a TN panel with those specs, and I'm a hardcore IPS or OLED fan that doesn't like the VA it's claimed to be. If it's BS spec-wise on delivery it's an easy return and OCUK would even cover the return fees if necessary, however it does look to be a variant of the model range and should at the least offer the base specs if not panel type.

Edit: It should be this model: https://www.acer.com/us-en/monitors/gaming/nitro-kg1/pdp/UM.QX1AA.303#pdpSpecs
 
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Gray2233 said:
Part of my recommending the Thermalright is that it's an extremely strong air based HSF but also very cheap for what it offers, it might not be entirely necessary but it will work with most future upgrades the OP's son might go down. I've autistic family/friends and often familiarity/consistency is as important as anything else, so buying a good HSF from the get go might help in that regard too if more CPU power became a requirement.

As for the monitor? I honestly don't know what they're thinking, it showed up under 1080P/gaming for me but the site is often off spec wise for a lot of products lately. For £70 I'd take a TN panel with those specs, and I'm a hardcore IPS or OLED fan that doesn't like the VA it's claimed to be. If it's BS spec-wise on delivery it's an easy return and OCUK would even cover the return fees if necessary, however it does look to be a variant of the model range and should at the least offer the base specs if not panel type.

Edit: It should be this model: https://www.acer.com/us-en/monitors/gaming/nitro-kg1/pdp/UM.QX1AA.303#pdpSpecs
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I wasn't knocking your recommendation, there's always something a bit better if you spend a little more it could have been on the PSU or that keyboard for instance. The keyboard is fine I've purchased dozens of them when I was working in education and have one on my desk, as long as they dont start mashing dozens of keys at once its still a cheap office style kybd at the end of the day.

Good call on consistency I have a relative that can find changes to routine, things being in the "wrong" place etc difficult so the cpu and psu could be upgraded in the future if needed and it would still look exactly the same.


Your link says 1080p IPS HDR10 180Hz; Overclockers page is all over the place I'd take IPS over the VA but the HDR10 would be a bit dissapointing over (edit got that wrong the HDR10 supports 10 bit colour not 8 bit so should be better than the hdr400...) the HDR400 overclockers lists - I guess the work experience kid was working the day they uploaded it lol.

Edit: ok now I give up HDR400 should be 400 nits but is only 8 bits according to the site I looked at and HDR10 should be 10 bits so should have better colour reproduction. But Acers site says the monitor is "6-bit+FRC" and only 250nits but is still listed as HDR10...


At some point I will build myself a new PC hence my interest in the build threads; its just mad how quickly the price rockets when you add a bit extra here and a bit extra there when 1k only gets you an entry level PC now.
 
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NetMan said:
At some point I will build myself a new PC hence my interest in the build threads; its just mad how quickly the price rockets when you add a bit extra here and a bit extra there when 1k only gets you an entry level PC now.
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NetMan said:
So is the £30 cooler worth it other than RGB or better spent on something else?
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If it helps, the way I'd see it, is that if the £30 buys you a better part that will be noticeable in gaming or limit how long the PC will last (e.g. 8GB or 16GB 9060 XT) then I'd dump the cooler.

If there's nothing else that matters budget wise, then I'd consider "quality of life" using the PC, because e.g. a stock cooler ramping up/down whirrrr whir whir, can be pretty darn annoying.

It does depend on usage though, I mean, a pure gaming PC it doesn't matter that much because other fans may drown out the noise anyway.

Not all stock coolers are made equal, AMD's stock coolers used to be pretty good, but they've been downgraded a few times (most models just come with the stealth now, the most basic) and these latest chips run pretty hot on "out of the box" settings. Intel also used to have several variants for the same cooler and some fans were excellent, while other fans.., not so much.
 
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Tetras said:
If it helps, the way I'd see it, is that if the £30 buys you a better part that will be noticeable in gaming or limit how long the PC will last (e.g. 8GB or 16GB 9060 XT) then I'd dump the cooler.

If there's nothing else that matters budget wise, then I'd consider "quality of life" using the PC, because e.g. a stock cooler ramping up/down whirrrr whir whir, can be pretty darn annoying.

It does depend on usage though, I mean, a pure gaming PC it doesn't matter that much because other fans may drown out the noise anyway.

Not all stock coolers are made equal, AMD's stock coolers used to be pretty good, but they've been downgraded a few times (most models just come with the stealth now, the most basic) and these latest chips run pretty hot on "out of the box" settings. Intel also used to have several variants for the same cooler and some fans were excellent, while other fans.., not so much.
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I don't want to hijack his thread, I've got the cash to build a new PC and would like to get back into gaming so will decide what I want and treat myself at "somepoint".

I'm just aware there's nothing going back into the piggy bank at the moment but also aware that we aren't on this little blue ball for long then poof we are gone and you can't take it with you.

As nice as the blingy RGB can look I'm from an era of beige towers so would probably also choose function over the bling at any given price point but will probably end up with some RGB as it seems almost mandatory these days.
 
NetMan said:
I don't want to hijack his thread, I've got the cash to build a new PC and would like to get back into gaming so will decide what I want and treat myself at "somepoint".
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HDR in these monitors should be largely ignored, it's never going to look good unless you're on OLED or a good rare FALD display. For £70 with those specs I'd buy one just to hang off an arm for data purposes, if the specs are accurate it's a fantastic first monitor for a kid.

If you do want to make a new build please follow the this: https://forums.overclockers.co.uk/threads/read-first-build-and-upgrade-advice-template.19002453/

We want to help you, and this will streamline that.
 
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Reliability is really important for us, we had a bad experience a few Christmases ago, buying a meta quest headset. Ive certainly made good use of the warranty on that! But having loved things unavailable is a hassle I don't want. I'll take the cooler. Any recommendations on a better keyboard, without breaking the bank?
 
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