Christian Horner sacked!

Scam said:
No need to be on the fence mate the world and his dog knew he did it deliberately :p But it was Rosberg's immediate reading of the situation/punishment that was spot on. I have a memory like a sieve so I'm probably wrong, but he does generally seem on the money with his opinions. It's just he takes himself so damn seriously and is just so.. what's the word... annoying :o
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You're right. It should have been a black flag if the race director himself wasn't so on the fence :D As for Rosberg, like most brits I wasn't particularly fond of him when Lewis was stomping his way through WDC after WDC but as a commentator it's nice to hear anyone go hard left or right on something. I guess in hindsight any broadcaster, whether it's Sky UK, BBC or Ch4, they have to remain "mostly" neutral and so that leaves open the oppturnity for any guest commentator to pull the hard punches instead.
 
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Kelt said:
According to the Daily Mail, Horner is to be sacked imminently by Red Bull. :eek:

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In light of the warning above... there is nothing I can say :-D
 
Everyone's favourite, Dr Marko, has commented on Horner's sacking (video in German) saying that the sacking was down to performance and that the decision came from above ("gesellschaftsführer", in this context CEO? I think? Not sure). He also commented that Mekies will have a more limited role than Horner, concentrating more on racing which seems like a hint that there was a wider goal in sacking Horner and perhaps bringing the team under more centralised control?
 
Mr Jack said:
Everyone's favourite, Dr Marko, has commented on Horner's sacking (video in German) saying that the sacking was down to performance and that the decision came from above ("gesellschaftsführer", in this context CEO? I think? Not sure). He also commented that Mekies will have a more limited role than Horner, concentrating more on racing which seems like a hint that there was a wider goal in sacking Horner and perhaps bringing the team under more centralised control?
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Its pretty clear that Red Bull "Austria" want to take more control over the team; I've heard it mentioned by quite a few journo's etc that often Red Bull Racing was almost referred to as "Team Horner" rather than Red Bull due to the way it ran totally independent of the rest of Red Bull.

Personally I think its a mistake for more corporate ******** - Red Bull have done a pretty poor job getting much success out of their football teams so far and Oliver Mintzlaff has been boss of that part for a while.
 
chrismscotland said:
Personally I think its a mistake for more corporate ******** - Red Bull have done a pretty poor job getting much success out of their football teams so far and Oliver Mintzlaff has been boss of that part for a while.
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Yeah, arms length is the way to go I think. But I guess that a certain arrogance is required to become top brass in these kind of companies, as well as a certain paranoia. My guess is that its less that they want more control than they didn't like Horner having so much control. Disarming a potential rival rather than a desire to run it better.

Not relevant to the point, but: RB Leipzig have done exceptionally well, I'd say. Their rise from the lower leagues to the Bundesliga was nothing short of meteoric, and whilst they have yet to land the title, just fighting at the top of the league is an impressive achievement, as is twice winning the DFB-Pokal.
 
kar said:
Horner was good TV. But even good tv can get old if that's all thats on.
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He wasn't good TV. He was a droning, whiny ***** with takes that were impressively free of facts while remaining extremely boring. Now, in that regard he fitted right in with modern F1 commentary to be fair...
 
I think its a matter of time until he's back on the grid now that he's officially left Red Bull, that's a massive pay-off to be receiving; could be back in F1 before the second half of 2026 apparantly (as per his agreement)

Edit: In fact I'm even more convinced he'll be back as several articles suggests he negotiated the financial settlement down in order to reduce the period before he can come back into the sport.
You don't do that unless your planning something.
 
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BBC says he had a 12million a year salary. So I guess this means they payed off his salary till the contract ends (5 years x 12 million =60million.


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I'm not sure where he goes though? Mercedes would be pretty funny, and possible if its true that Toto had been planning to step down from the Team Principle position. McLaren are surely doing too well and I can't see Horner wanting to play the Ferrari game. Aston seems unlikely given that they recruited people who seemed to want to get away from Horner. Cadillac maybe? He could go to Alpine, it's toxic enough, but I can't imagine Horner and the Cheat both cramming their egos into the same team without causing constant conflict.
 
Thats a very valid statement by Horner, far from his biggest fan but that is a hell of an achievement when you read it like that.
My biggest satisfaction has been assembling and leading the most amazing group of talented and driven individuals and seeing them flourish as a subsidiary of an energy drinks company and seeing them take on and beat some of the biggest automotive brands in the world."
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