Especially the lycra clad time trialers and electric bike/scooters who speed past you with inches to spare totally unconcerned that you have a dog or young children with you.
Does something need to be done about dogs?
- Thread starter Dis86
- Start date
I never said they were a deterrent. Just I think people get them thinking they are.
Man of Honour
- Joined
- 29 Mar 2003
- Posts
- 57,746
- Location
- Stoke on Trent
I've been cycling to work since 2010 and no dog walker/pedestrian will ever accuse me of speeding past them.
From day one I knew I was the lowest form of carbon life on the roads/paths and always slow down to walking pace when going past humans, tiny humans and dogs, I mostly stop for those dogs who approach me for a pat.
I've even had arguments with cyclists who have taken no notice of potential dangers.
I also go out on the road with the same attitude of "I shouldn't be here, motorists own the roads because they think they pay a special road tax" so avoid any road riding if I can.
You are one of the cyclists that I appreciate (I also used to ride a bike many, many years ago when you had to ride on the road). It's not everyone on a cycle who is the problem, just a minority but the problem does seem to be growing. Keep riding as long as you can.
Yep it is always the owners that cause all these problems for sure. This woman clearly has a thing for big dogs. The Alsatian they had did one break through the fence once and chase me round my own garden before I was able to dash in to the house. All the while the bloke was stood there doing nothing as it was trying to bite me, scared of it as per the current Rottweilers. The council dog wardens were called after that and they at least put a proper gate up with dog warning signs. I grew up in a house with 14 dogs at one point, my mother used to show and breed, so I am used to them, but when they start trying to jump the fence to get you you do have to react accordingly.
I still remember when I was waiting for a taxi to get home on a busy road, a guy had tied up his Alsatian loosely to the handrail at the entrance to the nearby Library.
Nearly everyone walking by was crossing the road refusing to walk anywhere near it, a women who wanted to go in the Library asked me if it was my dog, when I said no she then crossed the road after telling me how brave I am.
At least this dog was clearly allowed out its home though and had a degree of exercise.
I am still on the fence to places like parks, I feel there needs to be segregated areas for off the lead dog roaming. But of course these things cost money and I think would largely be ignored by society anyway, as an example the allotment my dad used to use near where he lives, at both entrances is dogs must be on lead's signs, and they pretty much ignored by everyone taking their dogs through the area.
Same with beaches, specific sections for dogs, other sections for no dogs, but again I think would be ignored.
Nearly everyone walking by was crossing the road refusing to walk anywhere near it, a women who wanted to go in the Library asked me if it was my dog, when I said no she then crossed the road after telling me how brave I am.
At least this dog was clearly allowed out its home though and had a degree of exercise.
I am still on the fence to places like parks, I feel there needs to be segregated areas for off the lead dog roaming. But of course these things cost money and I think would largely be ignored by society anyway, as an example the allotment my dad used to use near where he lives, at both entrances is dogs must be on lead's signs, and they pretty much ignored by everyone taking their dogs through the area.
Same with beaches, specific sections for dogs, other sections for no dogs, but again I think would be ignored.
Soldato
- Joined
- 11 May 2007
- Posts
- 9,234
- Location
- Surrey
Something needs to be done about owners.
A Pomeranian/Frieze thing attacked my dog yesterday. I’d crossed the road to get past them because I know that dog is aggressive. Somehow the dog, on a retractable lead, managed to run across the road and get to her.
I hoisted mine in the air (she’s in a harness) and grabbed the other one by the scruff of the neck.
Owners were apologetic but it’s not really good enough. I told them that it shouldn’t be on a retractable lead (due to previous encounters) and that it can’t happen again (boxing stance). ‘She’s not very good at coming back…’ No, you’re just not very good at controlling your dog.
I noticed they didn’t once do anything to keep the dogs attention on them, no ‘leave’, and no reprimand after the incident.
A Pomeranian/Frieze thing attacked my dog yesterday. I’d crossed the road to get past them because I know that dog is aggressive. Somehow the dog, on a retractable lead, managed to run across the road and get to her.
I hoisted mine in the air (she’s in a harness) and grabbed the other one by the scruff of the neck.
Owners were apologetic but it’s not really good enough. I told them that it shouldn’t be on a retractable lead (due to previous encounters) and that it can’t happen again (boxing stance). ‘She’s not very good at coming back…’ No, you’re just not very good at controlling your dog.
I noticed they didn’t once do anything to keep the dogs attention on them, no ‘leave’, and no reprimand after the incident.
And then they cry when someone in a car overtakes them with only a 1.49 meter gap
This is definitely a thing, at least with many beaches in Wales. As you say though, most people are scumbags and will just ignore it.
Soldato
- Joined
- 14 Aug 2008
- Posts
- 4,255
- Location
- North Sea
The next door neighbours had 2 Shih Tzu’s when we moved in back in 2018, which were really chilled, friendly and approachable dogs we never heard a peep out of. However, since then they added a Bichon Frise pup, that’s a highly-strung, yappy little **** that barks for literally no reason, which then also sets off the previously chill Shih Tzu’s. They’ve then since added to the menagerie, but also started a dog-grooming/doggy daycare business from home, so there’s always several dogs at their house at anyone time now, not sure how many are theirs or are their clients, while they also seem to look after other people’s dogs overnight some times as well.
So, you’ve got a lot of dogs together in one place, not all of which are familiar with each other and know the pecking order, so obviously it kicks off and dogs start fighting among themselves, which can happen multiple times per day, with the cacophony of the dogs barking, but also the neighbours screaming at them, as they can’t control them it seems. They both also work, one working shifts in security and the other a part time instructor at a gym or something, which means their daily routine is that they’re usually up and out early, meaning that they’ll let their dogs out into their gated front garden around 6.00, where they’ll bark, while the neighbours themselves talk loudly, shout at the dogs etc. They’ll then go to work, leaving the dogs shut in the house, where they’ll bark, howl, whine etc until someone comes home early afternoon. They also do this letting their dogs out into the front garden thing before bed as well, usually around 9.30-10.00, but because it was raining on Saturday night they waited until 11.30 to do it, which with this being a semi, they’re right under our bedroom window.
I’ve had words with them in the past, they’re always apologetic and things will improve for a few days, but then they just seem to lapse back into old habits, and we’re right back to square one. I don’t want to go down the formal noise complaint to the council route as that will flag up should we ever try to sell this place, which I want to do for other reasons as well this, but I’m starting to run out of road really. A polite word isn’t working.
So, you’ve got a lot of dogs together in one place, not all of which are familiar with each other and know the pecking order, so obviously it kicks off and dogs start fighting among themselves, which can happen multiple times per day, with the cacophony of the dogs barking, but also the neighbours screaming at them, as they can’t control them it seems. They both also work, one working shifts in security and the other a part time instructor at a gym or something, which means their daily routine is that they’re usually up and out early, meaning that they’ll let their dogs out into their gated front garden around 6.00, where they’ll bark, while the neighbours themselves talk loudly, shout at the dogs etc. They’ll then go to work, leaving the dogs shut in the house, where they’ll bark, howl, whine etc until someone comes home early afternoon. They also do this letting their dogs out into the front garden thing before bed as well, usually around 9.30-10.00, but because it was raining on Saturday night they waited until 11.30 to do it, which with this being a semi, they’re right under our bedroom window.
I’ve had words with them in the past, they’re always apologetic and things will improve for a few days, but then they just seem to lapse back into old habits, and we’re right back to square one. I don’t want to go down the formal noise complaint to the council route as that will flag up should we ever try to sell this place, which I want to do for other reasons as well this, but I’m starting to run out of road really. A polite word isn’t working.
![[FnG]magnolia](/styles/overclockers/avatars/9.png){kind=avatar}
Caporegime
- Joined
- 29 Aug 2007
- Posts
- 28,769
- Location
- Auckland
Someone better versed in law than I will be able to point out that using your home as a business comes with responsibilities and legal obligations (I believe - UK might be different to here). A noise complaint would be my first call, given they've obviously ignored your polite approach, and then escalate from there.
RSPCA?
This I agree with, have they got insurance for the business they are operating? Public Liability is required.
Report regarding this attack has been published:
Girl, 10, dies after being bitten by family dog
Despite attempts to save the girl, she suffered serious injuries and died at the scene.www.bbc.co.uk
Another one. Quite a toll again this year. 10 is no tiny toddler or baby either. Poor kid.
BBc news report
Some statements in the report though show just how dangerous these dogs are:
"heard the six-year-old dog, called Biggie, had been neutered and certified in accordance with the law, and there had been no previous incidents where the pet had shown aggression."
"Savannah was in a foetal position in the address and the dog was present and covered in blood"
"A post-mortem examination on the dog, which was put down by a vet following the fatal attack, found no "physical or pathological alterations" that would have caused a "burst of aggression", the inquest heard."
So an XL that shows no form of aggressive traits, still murders a 10 yr old girl because they were left alone with the girl?
Sounds like the public should decide themselves if they wish to keep these dogs or not.... This is sarcasm, all XL bully's need to be destroyed.
Soldato
- Joined
- 21 Oct 2011
- Posts
- 22,525
- Location
- ST4
One of our new porters got bitten by a patient's 'assistance' dog yesterday, on his first day. It sunk it's teeth into his arm and punctured the skin. Thing is, we all know it isn't an assistance dog and she's just bought the harness from Temu or something.
Soldato
- Joined
- 11 Sep 2013
- Posts
- 12,666
Why do you think breed matters?
About 17 kids under-10 have been killed by dogs, of various different breeds... but all after being left unsupervised by their parents.
Soldato
- Joined
- 11 Sep 2013
- Posts
- 12,666
Denial of what?
Are you saying you think it's ever OK to leave a young child alone with any kind of dog?
Still living rent free in your head I see, I put a single post in here and you MUST reply haha.
I put you on ignore months ago, you were told to do the same thing, but you just cant let it go can you?
Love how you ignored this bit. The breed is naturally dangerous regardless of human intervention, something you spent hundreds of replies arguing against.
Knew you would bite immediately though, thanks for allowing me to laugh at you again.
Last edited:
Soldato
- Joined
- 11 Sep 2013
- Posts
- 12,666
It was suggested we ignore each other.
And the facts & stats haven't changed - Leaving any breed alone with a young child can, and on over a dozens occasions did, result in death.
So that's the reason you took me off ignore?
