What is this cure?
The rise of Ozempic
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Starvation diet, I suspect.
Yes it is. Can you tell me what this magic CURE is?That cant be a serious question?
And then you can tell me how this CURE will work for people with certain diseases like hypothyroidism which effects upto 10% of the population. Or people with Cushings syndrome or PCOS.
NOT EVEYONE THAT IS FAT IS LAZY!!!
Unfortunately the NHS just doesn't want to prescribe these drugs unless you are diabetic. You can meet every other criteria and NHS GPs still flat out refuse to prescribe them unless they can tick the T2D box.
It's private care or bust with these things. I've personally given up trying after I moved GP 3 times all to get the same responses, but at least it's spurred me to make lifestyle changes to a small success (with a long way to go).
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Why add the word 'magic' in?
The science of weight loss is pretty clear and it doesn't require starvation. While you can mention diseases like that, not everyone with hypothyroidism, Cushing's syndrome or PCOS is overweight. So, how do they manage to keep the weight off?
I actually have no issue with people taking these jabs to help them, what I do have an issue with is people acting as if it's impossible/almost impossible without them. It isn't, it just takes longer and requires more effort. In this day and age, it's obvious why people don't or won't choose that option.
The science of weight loss is pretty clear and it doesn't require starvation. While you can mention diseases like that, not everyone with hypothyroidism, Cushing's syndrome or PCOS is overweight. So, how do they manage to keep the weight off?
I actually have no issue with people taking these jabs to help them, what I do have an issue with is people acting as if it's impossible/almost impossible without them. It isn't, it just takes longer and requires more effort. In this day and age, it's obvious why people don't or won't choose that option.
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To be fair, they are fairly new drugs, so it will take some time before they are going to be widely prescribed by a public health body. I wouldn't be surprised if, in 5-10 years' time, there is far more widespread use of them and the NHS is then able to procure them at a more reasonable cost.
Your correct, But there are many many other reasons why people can be overweight. Its not just about walking more and eating less. Yes there are some that are going to abuse the system. Lots of celebs and "influencers" for instance which is why most people think its a cheat. Because its very obvious some really dont need it
You are right but most of them have bad habits.
People on these jabs are not the exception to the rule with the diseases you mentioned. Drugs for people in first world countries surrounded by an over consumption of food.
If an famine hit us tomorrow, we see how fast these jabs will no longer be needed.
Sure people are going to tell me "AHH!!! YOU DON'T UNDERSTRAND!!! Yes, I don't understand. Just the same way I don't understand why people take drugs, smoke, vape, over consume alcohol beverages. You only get one body, one life, so why the hell does anyone want to destroy or poison it, you basically handicapped yourself. Then expect the NHS to fix you and have the cheek start question why the health system is collapsing. Failing you, failing everyone!
There are people out there with genuine diseases but its not most of them.
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Not if diabetes kills them off first
Cannibalism will be the new drug and their fat content will be like heroin.
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I was getting a bit carried away with drinking, especially on lunch breaks and after work. Tried Mounjaro for that reason and completely cut down, I can now barely drink half a pint so I don't bother.
Mounjaro, alongside Huel meal replacement shakes, have literally changed my life. It's not always about being lazy, or greedy with zero willpower. It was the massive reset I needed after a worrying liver scan.
110kg to 84.5kg since January. First time I've been under 14st in 13 years.
I'm sleeping better, have more energy throughout the day and have drastically reduced my liver fibrosis & steatosis levels.
Cutting out the junk food and alcohol would achieve the same without these jabs. However, if people need the jabs to get them started then why not?
Obesity and obesity-induced diabetes are gobsmackingly expensive to treat. They don’t kill you very easily, just completely wreck your body so you end up having limbs amputated and are a colossal burden on the NHS.
Paying for these weight-loss drugs to prevent all these issues, the diabetes, the wrecked joints and orthopaedics etc, this is excellent value for the NHS.
The alternative is tax rises, more sugar tax etc.
It's cost that glorious pink shirt though, are you sure it was worth it?Mounjaro, alongside Huel meal replacement shakes, have literally changed my life. It's not always about being lazy, or greedy with zero willpower. It was the massive reset I needed after a worrying liver scan.
110kg to 84.5kg since January. First time I've been under 14st in 13 years.
I'm sleeping better, have more energy throughout the day and have drastically reduced my liver fibrosis & steatosis levels.
NO it wouldn't!
I dont drink and I dont eat junk food. But my HBA1C was still 74
Now its 34.. Go figure!!
The fact a lot of people are paying for these jabs out of their own pocket is even better for the NHS in the long run