Poll: DIGITAL ID - It's coming *** NO GENERAL POLITICS TALK - ONE AND ONLY WARNING ***

Are you for or against the new Digital ID

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It won’t have any real impact on illegal work — it’s not being introduced for the reasons they’re claiming.

As long as cash exists, there will always be ‘off the books’ work.

That’s why this feels more like a precursor to eradicating cash down the line, or paving the way for even more restrictive measures when this inevitably fails.

People will dismiss that as ‘tin foil hat’ talk, but remember: we already see arrests over social media posts, and we now have to show photographic ID just to access adult content.
 
Are the people opposed to this the same people as are complaining about illegal immigration?

Because it strikes me that an easy way to identify someone as an illegal immigrant would be a good thing... unless they have some other measure of how to identify such?
 
Shadowness said:
And how difficult was that to overcome?!
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I'm not sure of your point.
Sinbad2000 said:
Are the people opposed to this the same people as are complaining about illegal immigration?

Because it strikes me that an easy way to identify someone as an illegal immigrant would be a good thing... unless they have some other measure of how to identify such?
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I would think everyone is complaining about illegal immigration, no?

If someone’s here legally, there’ll be a record to prove it. If there isn’t… well, that’s your answer.
JonRGV250 said:
This is going to be Starmers Poll tax.
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I said this yesterday evening. I would be amazed if it wasn't. It's got to be the final nail in the coffin.
 
Demon said:
The majority of Illegal (boat) migrants already get food, spending money, phones and healthcare.. so again.. who is this aimed at?
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Just to pick up one one of your points.

Firstly, illegal boat migrants don't get given phones.

They get less than £10 a week if they are provided with food at their accomodation.

If they don't get food, they get less than £50 a week.

We can't exactly leave them to starve, otherwise they will turn to crime.
 
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Hunterlit said:
It won’t stop illegal immigration, and it wouldn’t surprise me if they’re given a digital ID as soon as they step off the boat. This is a very slippery slope indeed: first it’s introduced for one thing, and then it will inevitably be used for other, more nefarious purposes.

I also noticed that the BBC was one of the first to joyfully broadcast the news. Could that be because they hope to use it to police the TV licence? For example, you buy a TV and are required to show your ID, so they immediately know you need to buy a licence.

It’s quite dangerous that some people here think nothing of this. The company that wins the contract probably won’t have security at the forefront of their minds- only government contract £££ signs. I will give it a month before some kind of data breach happens.
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They used to check when buying TVs years back. People dodging it either gave someone else's address or bought a used one...
 
VincentHanna said:
Just to pick up one one of your points.

Firstly, illegal boat migrants don't get given phones.

They get less than £10 a week if they are provided with food at their accomodation.

If they don't get food, they get less than £50 a week.

We can't exactly leave them to starve, otherwise they will turn to crime.
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That sounds like a great way to dissuade them from coming/staying to me.
 
It beggars belief that with all what is going on at the moment and the general sentiment of the country, he has been advised to roll this out.

The timing could not have been worse.

They may as well hand the keys to Reform at this point.
 
steve_c said:
It beggars belief that with all what is going on at the moment and the general sentiment of the country, he has been advised to roll this out.

The timing could not have been worse.

They may as well hand the keys to Reform at this point.
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Alternative way to look at it, get all the unpopular stuff done now and if you do a few more popular things later in your term, people will have forgotten this stuff by the time the next election rolls around
 
VincentHanna said:
Just to pick up one one of your points.

Firstly, illegal boat migrants don't get given phones.

They get less than £10 a week if they are provided with food at their accomodation.

If they don't get food, they get less than £50 a week.

We can't exactly leave them to starve, otherwise they will turn to crime.
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All fair points.

However, they do get given phones. Just not taxpayer funded communication devices, it's from charities.

This isn't an illegal immigration thread. Unless we are talking about these phones being used by people with no legal right to work in the UK, gettng a digital ID to PROVE they have no right to work in the UK. Which they won't, because they are not stupid. They are smart and will stay "off the grid" of Digital ID, like all the cash in hand bros around the nation. Once it becomes apparent it doesn't work for this purpose the government will tighten the noose to make life impossible without one of these IDs.

Illegal imiigiration is a smokescreen.
 
In some ways, it feels like this gem of an "idea" has been let loose, to distract the masses from some potentially very negative Labour news.
 
Kenai said:
Alternative way to look at it, get all the unpopular stuff done now and if you do a few more popular things later in your term, people will have forgotten this stuff by the time the next election rolls around
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I think that ship has sailed but I could be wrong.
 
Kenai said:
Alternative way to look at it, get all the unpopular stuff done now and if you do a few more popular things later in your term, people will have forgotten this stuff by the time the next election rolls around
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Another alternative is they don't (forget about all this stuff), this stuff passes and gets adopted, then you have a Reform government with this level of power over citizens.

Once you give away something like privacy/power/ownership, you never get it back without a fight, and likely not a fair fight.
 
Fubsy said:
Another alternative is they don't (forget about all this stuff), this stuff passes and gets adopted, then you have a Reform government with this level of power over citizens.

Once you give away something like privacy/power/ownership, you never get it back without a fight, and likely not a fair fight.
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If the UK votes Reform in, then to be frank we deserve what we get.
 
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