Poll: DIGITAL ID - It's coming *** NO GENERAL POLITICS TALK - ONE AND ONLY WARNING ***

Are you for or against the new Digital ID

  • For

  • Against

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Decades ago I was for a national ID, but back then it would have been a card.

Making it digital means it now stores unlimited data and so will be used for a lot more. Passport, Drivers License, I see no reason not to add this stuff to it or any other data that would make sense to be on it. Would we still have to pay to "renew" a passport or drivers license even though they are now digital, you bloody well know we would.

Now what makes me opposed to it is what else it could be, and frankly will be used for. Don't have ID to verify yourself to look at r/beers because of the online safety bill? obviously just use your digital ID! look at Pornhub? digital ID! etc

Now remember you live in Britain, a country that just won't keep it's nose out of your business. Now your digital ID is your portfolio and mobile dox machine that's been logging everything you've done with it and has your life history. Lets say you're in an area where a theft has just taken place and the police stop you and want to check your digital ID "well sir/madam we can see you were arrested in 1992 for shoplifting a Kinder Egg when you were 8. "And oohhhh well well well then! what's this! you're subscribed to the LockPickingLawyer on YouTube and watched 21 videos just yesterday, we have reasonable cause to place you under arrest"

No.. no way. I cannot put that trust in the Government and don't think I ever can. Too easily they undermine what the public want.
 
Gray2233 said:
Look, I know it's a thing many do or scream about but I'm legitimately done.

I've career options in east-asia and could easily relocate (SK particularly). I just never really wanted to, but I'm tired of the UK mate, living here is starting to feel like a job in of itself.
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Yeah, I'm not making fun (beyond the Toto reference).... I voted remain and and while I'll take the loss, I think we've lost a lot (both economically and freedom of movement etc....)
I've kinda bumbled along, but if I had an easy route out, I'd be weighing the options :)
 
TrojanWhore said:
Yeah, I'm not making fun (beyond the Toto reference).... I voted remain and and while I'll take the loss, I think we've lost a lot (both economically and freedom of movement etc....)
I've kinda bumbled along, but if I had an easy route out, I'd be weighing the options :)
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I voted to leave, but my reasoning and intent were to focus on other economic markets (there are/were many) and to stop mass migration, which the EU was pushing at the time. Germany especially, and kidding aside they've managed to do with the pen what they couldn't with the sword. I feel like many have voted against mass-migration a million times only to be ignored.

The Gov' decided to not do any of the things I actually wanted or felt were reasonable.

I don't hate or dislike people that voted for different things. We're all part of the same whole, I'm just tired of being ignored as a what is a legitimate majority in certain regards.

I've not voted since because it became clear that it didn't matter.
 
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The only apolitical AAA+ Youtuber I know of addressing this exact topic.


Everyone should check out the rest of his content regarding the farce of the media and ONS in either manipulating or misreporting economic data to cover for this Labour government and the state of the UK economy.

At the same time certain high priest influencers (my 'favourite' being An Alternative Bias on Youtube) and mainstream rags like the Guardian (and The Metro, The London Economic), gas light hard alleging this Labour Government's every move is 5D chess in a world of hostile Tory / right wing media / populist sentiment.

Seems the primary anxiety any virtue-signalling zealot should have about the state of the nation is that the plebs, misunderstanding the lofty work of the Labour government, might end up voting Reform if Labour isn't putting on a good enough show of pretending to address their 'misguided populist fake news' concerns.

As said in the above video, the digital ID is being introduced under false pretences. It will have no effect on illegal immigration and the shadow economy whatsoever. It will, however, ensure that those who have surrendered to a DBS check, full ID and work history check, are contributing via PAYE or otherwise to the government coffers and already have a NI number - are in the crosshairs. It's us who the technocratic control grid via digital ID is targeting, and any condition can be imposed upon us via this more malleable Digital ID. Vaccine status, travel restrictions, green credentials + mileage restrictions, non-crime hate speech / social media violation tallys, failure to comply with a military draft - the possibilities are endless.

As many sceptics have said, there's basically no tangible benefit to Digital ID, but it is a fantastic foundation for the government's future plans for all of us who are at the mercy of the state (aka you're a legit tax payer, property owner, PAYE employee, etc).

The way I see it is that this Labour government is once again trying their hand at over-reaching with their unearned majority, as they have no interest in solutions to fix this country or address any legitimate voter concerns.
 
p1RATE said:
Did you watch the video? or are you just trying to be a contrarian?

You have a direct quote and are still rejecting it. "By better linking taxpayer data, a digital-ID ecosystem could help close the UK’s tax gap by pre-populating tax returns. This would save citizens time while also helping to avoid the tax-filing errors that cost the Exchequer several billion every year. In addition, by making it easier to link complex datasets, a digital ID could enable HMRC to better target tax-compliance activity, helping to crack down on under-taxed offshore income, for example." what you are questioning is mentioned both in a direct video from the institute and a blog post with an additional video of a barrister breaking down why this is a bad idea.

How can you be so obtuse?
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I think it’s you being obtuse. Nothing quoted says they will use digital ID to take money from your accounts, ironically it’s money you would have owed anyway and not paying it is a criminal offence (tax evasion)

However, the massive irony is HMRC already do the thing being quoted without digital ID and have been for well over a decade.

They even recently consulted on adjusting the information they get on bank interest and credit card sales (for business, not individuals) so they can better match it to tax records and more accurately collect tax that is due. No digital ID required.
www.gov.uk

Better use of new and improved third-party data

This consultation seeks views on opportunities for improving the quality of data acquired under HMRC’s bulk data gathering powers for tax administration.
www.gov.uk www.gov.uk

Digital ID wouldn’t crack down on offshore income because it only applies domestically.

If data was linked to digital ID, it might make it easier/more accurate but in practice, they already do it en-mass and don’t actually need it.

They also have powers to take money from people’s bank accounts directly if thy refuse to pay and have done for a decade again. No digital ID needed.
 
b0rn2sk8 said:
I think it’s you being obtuse. Nothing quoted says they will use digital ID to take money from your accounts, ironically it’s money you would have owed anyway and not paying it is a criminal offence (tax evasion)

However, the massive irony is HMRC already do the thing being quoted without digital ID and have been for well over a decade.

They even recently consulted on adjusting the information they get on bank interest and credit card sales (for business, not individuals) so they can better match it to tax records and more accurately collect tax that is due. No digital ID required.
www.gov.uk

Better use of new and improved third-party data

This consultation seeks views on opportunities for improving the quality of data acquired under HMRC’s bulk data gathering powers for tax administration.
www.gov.uk www.gov.uk

Digital ID wouldn’t crack down on offshore income because it only applies domestically.

If data was linked to digital ID, it might make it easier/more accurate but in practice, they already do it en-mass and don’t actually need it.

They also have powers to take money from people’s bank accounts directly if thy refuse to pay and have done for a decade again. No digital ID needed.
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Exactly, so they aren't taking money from personal accounts of people on PAYE.

The only people that need to be concerned are those self employed or company directors who aren't paying their declared tax and too bloody right!

As for Emlyn being against this and being Chinese(?)...your country already has ID cards and UK citizens have far more freedom of speech than the average Chinese citizen.
 
I’m not Chinese. I’m for sure ashamed of the direction the UK is going.
As I said before. A government should ultimately work for the country, not for their personal gain and their pedo mates.
 
Emlyn_Dewar said:
Same. My mum has been desperate for me to come back for years to visit, and I’d planned to this year. I’ll never come back with the current leadership though.
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Errrr you sure its not because of a string of police charges to do with hanging around in bushes and girls changing rooms?
 
Not that I trust anything from labour, I am one that would welcome an ID card and hopefully one that will hold more information, like illness, blood type, ICE, allergies and the like, rather than just a photo.

Money on the original budget and time scale going up from £900m to £billions and 6 months to 6 years*

* These figures were just made up as an example.
 
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Was just watching Kier Starmer on Sunday with Laura Kuenssberg. Laura put the question directly to him how mandatory ID would reduce illegal immigration and prevent people working illegaly. He literally couldn't answer the question and looked visibly uncomfortable trying to dodge it because he clearly knows it wont.

www.bbc.co.uk

BBC One - Sunday with Laura Kuenssberg, 28/09/2025

Laura Kuenssberg is joined by prime minister Sir Keir Starmer and James Cleverly MP.
www.bbc.co.uk www.bbc.co.uk

We all know Digial ID won't reduce illegal migration/employment and he knows it won't either. So given the schme is being rolled out on the back of an outright lie you'd have to ask what the intention behind it is?
 
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Are the rumours true that Tony Blair's son will benefit and profit from this ID scheme at the tax payers expense?

Also Larry Ellison gave Blair a load of cash to his institute and he is one of the richest people alive. It also seems he is going to benefit extremely from this and might even end up having the contract for this.

This all stinks to high heaven when digital ID cards are about the 1000th thing of a list that needs tax payers money spending on it.

Government doesn't even want to reduce immigration. None have for the past 30 years. It is the easiest GDP growth for the pyramid scheme that we live in today.
 
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If you put the word rumour and Tony Blair in a sentence the chance are it’s not true.

Not that I have any love for the guy but you really need to stop taking your gossip from social media.
 
adam cool dude said:
Are the rumours true that Tony Blair's son will benefit and profit from this ID scheme at the tax payers expense?
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It’s reported that Euan Blair (co founder and CEO) of Multiverse which has been chosen to handle the digital id app.
No idea how true it is, although it’d be hardly surprising.
 
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