Poll: AmorIn or AmorOut?
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You don’t even have a goal keeper, a competent midfield or even a proven centre forward. Basically don’t even have a spin/core of a team, how can that be a a comfortably top half?
So you think if the team is playing as well as it can, it would be 14th? Interesting. I don't really want to sit listing players, but in a coherent formation, with some confidence, I think they can do a lot better, yes. Midfield is an obvious weak point, so play another man in there.
To be fair Gary Neville also predicted Utd would be top 4 this year.
The performance of that game was a depressing watch. Did I imagine it or did Utd start the season as a high energy pressing team...that has disappeared. It is saying a lot for me to say that game has got me more into the Amorim out camp than in the in camp.
It's just not happening, isn't it supposed to be a sign of madness if you repeat things even though it ends up in failure ?
And exactly why did we buy that keeper...was he bought as a 2nd keeper, not that Bayandir did anything wrong, but it just adds to the set of confusing decisions.
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He's always wrong.
And please remember this is a thread for discussing the managers future. I appreciate there will be some overlap with general talk about matches, performances etc but if all you're discussing is the game then we have the spoilers thread for that.
If anyone is interested in Neville's take:
He's usually blindly supportive of managers but he's clearly given up on Amorim here.
Edit: and to Sky -
www.skysports.com
He's usually blindly supportive of managers but he's clearly given up on Amorim here.
Edit: and to Sky -
Gary Neville on Manchester United's woes: You can't play Mason Mount wing back, it's ridiculous
In the latest edition of The Gary Neville Podcast, the Sky Sports pundit gives a scathing assessment of Uniteds current woes and worries under head coach Ruben Amorim; Man Utd lost again at Brentford on Saturday, in which Mason Mount featured at wing-back
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Think most people have given him enough chances to turn things around, thing is unlike some previous managers people actually like him which is probably why there's not been as much pressure.
Unless there's a miracle I think the bubble is going to burst
Unless there's a miracle I think the bubble is going to burst
The bubble burst when SAF left and we’ve been trying to ‘blow’ new ones ever since. All we’ve managed is stinky farts.
Leave Manchester and the smell out of it..
Can Eddie Howe get more out of the team than Amorim can?
I guess he can't stop the unforced errors but the rest, maybe he can.
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Why are Man UTD worried about paying off Amorin? Didn't he say he'd go with no compensation?
Amorin is writing his own downfall at present.
With zero interest in changing his formation, and he's not going to at any point he's made that clear, he's effectively saying it's my way and nothing else.
I think with the players we have a 4-2-3-1 would potentially work so much better. He's stifling Bruno at the moment in the deep position - there is literally no service/cross from the wingbacks.
Also another couple of howlers at the weekend from Bayındır means Lammens surely has to start the next game.
United have just 3 games in October - Sunderland/Liverpool and Brighton. At current the best I could hope for is a win against Sunderland, a loss against Liverpool and maybe a point again Brighton. If he looses at Sunderland and Liverpool, I think Brighton would be the last game for him.
Just zero progress - players and team look lost.
Yes - some blame lies with the players/their effort but overall, the manager sets the standards / formation etc - and at the moment, clearly for all the see, it's not working.
With zero interest in changing his formation, and he's not going to at any point he's made that clear, he's effectively saying it's my way and nothing else.
I think with the players we have a 4-2-3-1 would potentially work so much better. He's stifling Bruno at the moment in the deep position - there is literally no service/cross from the wingbacks.
Also another couple of howlers at the weekend from Bayındır means Lammens surely has to start the next game.
United have just 3 games in October - Sunderland/Liverpool and Brighton. At current the best I could hope for is a win against Sunderland, a loss against Liverpool and maybe a point again Brighton. If he looses at Sunderland and Liverpool, I think Brighton would be the last game for him.
Just zero progress - players and team look lost.
Yes - some blame lies with the players/their effort but overall, the manager sets the standards / formation etc - and at the moment, clearly for all the see, it's not working.
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At some point you just have to accept it's not working and it doesn't look like it will start to work any time soon.
I am all for giving a new manager time to settle but only if they are willing to accept that they need to change if things are not working.
I am all for giving a new manager time to settle but only if they are willing to accept that they need to change if things are not working.
Sunderland are playing well. I fully expect 0 points.
Isn't it more that he thinks the system isn't the reason why we're losing games?
I do think there's some truth to it, even with a new manager/formation Bayandir is still Bayandir. Onana etc. Bruno missing pen/having one saved is not a formation issue.
That's not to say Amorim isn't at fault.
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It’s tricky as there’s lots of individual errors but conversely we have been ‘saved’ by penalties and other teams playing poorly (Chelsea red card for example) too which mask things also.
But the eye test for me shows that we’re not comfortable with the system and have the mental toughness of a house of cards.
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It's obvious that he's currently putting square pegs into round holes, but if he changes to another formation, would it really lead to sustained improvement or just another temporarily blip? History says its more likely the latter.
The problem he's got is that there's not enough round pegs for the problem positions and unless performances improve, he won't last long enough to buy the players he likely needs.
You can say he should have prioritised better in the summer, but the priority had to be getting the "bomb squad" out and replacing them. Which is largely what was done with Mbeumo and Cunha.
Ineos' problem is where do they go next? If the plan is to set a philosophy around how the team should play, then any replacement has the same problem with square pegs as today. And even if they do backtrack completely and go in a different direction, who is the man for the job? The likes of Glasner seem to be doing more with the same system, but I don't see anyone who looks like a sure bet.
If I had to put my money somewhere, it would be for largely on more of the same for the foreseeable, whether he stays or goes.
The problem he's got is that there's not enough round pegs for the problem positions and unless performances improve, he won't last long enough to buy the players he likely needs.
You can say he should have prioritised better in the summer, but the priority had to be getting the "bomb squad" out and replacing them. Which is largely what was done with Mbeumo and Cunha.
Ineos' problem is where do they go next? If the plan is to set a philosophy around how the team should play, then any replacement has the same problem with square pegs as today. And even if they do backtrack completely and go in a different direction, who is the man for the job? The likes of Glasner seem to be doing more with the same system, but I don't see anyone who looks like a sure bet.
If I had to put my money somewhere, it would be for largely on more of the same for the foreseeable, whether he stays or goes.