Poll: DIGITAL ID - It's coming *** NO GENERAL POLITICS TALK - ONE AND ONLY WARNING ***

Are you for or against the new Digital ID


  • Total voters
    395
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Oh thank god @Maple Leaf has brought some yellow text to the thread for some balance.

Those are hyperlinks, which you would know if you could be bothered to click on them.

Do you have any useful information to contribute to this discussion? Or are you just going to whinge about the colour of some text and engage in slagging off other posters as usual?
 
Those are hyperlinks, which you would know if you could be bothered to click on them.

Do you have any useful information to contribute to this discussion? Or are you just going to whinge about the colour of some text and engage in slagging off other posters as usual?

No, I don't have any useful information to add to the thread, and neither do you.
 
Been to 2 car parks today all cash machine paying was out and only ones working was card payment. Its going to go cashless soon with these id cards.
 
covid lockdowns was a test to see how many would comply and for how long. They are just pushing how far they can go now but think a lot have woken up to the covid and media guv lies.

Been to 2 car parks today all cash machine paying was out and only ones working was card payment. Its going to go cashless soon with these id cards.


And this, ladies and gentlemen, is what happens when you're scared of a few yoofs and never go outside.
 
And this, ladies and gentlemen, is what happens when you're scared of a few yoofs and never go outside.
I been out side and not scared lol. I guess you voted for in the poll lol and stop brining old topics into every comment i make its getting old now. Admins do something about it please he keeps brining the old topic in every comment.

The comment i made is just my opinion and im allowed an opinion just like every one else even if you dont agree its still my opinion thanks.
 
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The moment I was issued my Dutch government ID they did bad things to me or something.
I love having a single government login to anything (DigiD) and my single proof of ID which I can just used for everything. I've seen no downsides and wouldn't want it any other way. It's just an extension of social security number which is tied to all you details anyway.
 
The moment I was issued my Dutch government ID they did bad things to me or something.
I love having a single government login to anything (DigiD) and my single proof of ID which I can just used for everything. I've seen no downsides and wouldn't want it any other way. It's just an extension of social security number which is tied to all you details anyway.
but in the UK it will not be... it will be a digital passport for the internet... to protect the kids init.

only way for the online safety act to work


apparently having access to a photo id, bank statement and utility bill/rent statement etc is too much for some people...
and you need to use them like once every blue moon, so hard. so difficult

is it because you might have to talk to people in a bank and ask for statements etc? oh noes


even chatgpt knows what its really about

its about streamlining migrants into work

ChatGPT said:​

Exactly — the “streamlining” angle in government messaging isn’t really about saving existing citizens a lot of hassle, since, as you point out, employers can already check a passport or biometric residence permit.

The pitch is mainly about migrants entering the workforce:

  • Right to Work checks: At present, employers have to physically inspect original documents (passport, visa, biometric card) or use the Home Office’s online service (which requires the worker to share a one-time “share code”). This creates extra steps, especially for people without UK documents yet.
  • With a digital ID tied to immigration records, an employer could confirm eligibility instantly via a scan/lookup in a consistent system, rather than juggling multiple document types.
  • The government argues this reduces fraud (fake documents), speeds up hiring, and makes compliance checks less burdensome for employers.
  • Politically, it’s being framed as part of “clamping down on illegal working” while simultaneously fast-tracking legal migrants into jobs where shortages exist.
So the “streamlining” is less about improving convenience for everyone, and more about tightening control + making the labour market onboarding process for migrants faster and harder to evade.

Would you like me to break down how the current system (passport + share code) compares step-by-step with the proposed digital ID flow? That would make the differences clearer.
 
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Just like with the planned disability benefits, Kier will u-turn if enough Labour MPs kick up a stink about BritCard {cringe} and threaten to vote against the Bill, whenever it's introduced after the consultation period... If that happens in time before the expected 2029 General Election!

For a bit on context, Blunkett announced an ID plan in 2005, it barely got off the ground by 2010 having had ~£5Bn spent on it before the Tory/Libs coalition ditched it promptly.

I've not seen much Labour MP discontent so far, but BBC is my main news outlet and their choice of "big stories" is getting odder by the day IMO.

There's nothing that screams Reform more than BritCard. Just for the name, Labour should be embarassed.
 
Against it.

It's proposal to secure jobs is completely redundant, you already have to prove citizenship with ID, to work.

It forms the basis, the backbone, of more future control. Once implemented there will be no stopping it being tied to bank accounts, payment portals, travel, phones, facial recognition and maybe most scary of all, social media or any avenues of personal expression. It's a necessary puzzle piece of a dystopian future, if we let this slide then we'll let worse slide in future.
 
People who want the ID card don't seem to realise that these people working illegally will still work illegally and the ID card will do nothing to deter them or dodgy employers from employing them.

The simple fix is stop the people coming in for 10 years and sort this mess out properly.
 
So there's an important point here.

* Digital Identity - a number that ties together your digital presence, I can accept. The concept is that your digital identity enables you to quickly verify (without giving leaking information or documentation to the requestor) that your a national for example.

* Digital "identity" App - which has no reason to exist. That's actually a security problem and I can't accept. It's not actually about identity as an app will not one trusted to define your government identity and a phone app with government identity documentation stored on it is an absolute ridiculous security risk.
Imagine walking around with all your passport, pension, drivers licence, and medical data in a folder that someone on a motorbike can steal - or worse - simply hack a phone over the air. Next up is that the app's access permission will be beyond what is needed for a wallet, making it a security nightmare.

It is bad to have all documentation in one place both "in the cloud" and "on the app" (same app across everyone = single target for a hacker).

I've developed and delivered critical national infrastructure, services with security levels above your normal commercial levels, and even defence quantum security. I would not be happy with a government identity documentation 'wallet' on my phone. It also increases the risk and threat to me as an individual to theft abroad as gangs know UK citizen phones have their identity documentation in a wallet on the device.

Security principles include minimising attack 'surfaces' and minimising the amount of data that can be accessed (think layers of an onion). This is why it doesn't make sense. If Starmer is going down the Planitir route it's risking making the US and US tech companies threat actors to UK data sovereignty.
 
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Just renewed my license online and its all done through the GOV portal. Seems pretty much all connected and only a small step from the Digital Id anyway
 
some of you lot would be happy to walk around with an RFID chip that constantly broadcasts your identity wherever you go and without it you can't access places?
that's basically what the digital passport is going to become...


do you people really believe its just another ID... it's crazy most of the population are allowed to vote.

coming so soon after the failure of an online safety act, they won't tie it in with VPNs and everything else, the internet isn;'t already segregating us because of our government and this is the only way to put a system in place that gives the gov what it wants...


Calling it an ID in the place is a flat out lie, its a digital passport you will have to show to sites so they can protect the children, wont someone think of the children?

they are giving it a tiny real world use just so they can claim its not what it is.


also it doesnt need to be an app, it could be a QR or some other form of code. it doesn't have to sit on your phone with permissions.

but then the gov wanted a backdoor in apple/google so..
 
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