Gamers Nexus deep dive on Asrock motherboards killing Ryzen CPUs

might have to change my choice of motherboard.
I like the Asrock M-ATX B 850 - G , mostly because its white.
I bought it already. But I dont want to be bothered with
it potentially ruining the 9800x3d Im getting.
 
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Epburpee said:
might have to change my choice of motherboard.
I like the Asrock M-ATX B 850 - G , mostly because its white.
I bought it already. But I dont want to be bothered with
it potentially ruining the 9800x3d Im getting.
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Cant find the Asrock M-ATX B 850 - G motherboard anywhere is that correct model ?
 
Tetras said:
Why does he mention about idle running and sleep maybe being a problem?
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It seems a lot of people have had issues when using sleep or coming out sleep, whether this is simply a coincidence we have no idea but it does seem to have some correlation. I always turn sleep off so at least that part is mitigated my side.
 
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This is all quite worrying since I have an ASRock motherboard and a 9950X3D (which I assume is potentially affected even though the 9800X3D is the one that's always mentioned). I had been hoping that I would be unlikely to have any problems since I set it to 105W TDP (actually 140W PPT) for unrelated reasons, but GN's video makes it sound like the cause might not be peak power or current.

Maybe there's some latch-up problem in these CPUs, which I know can happen under really obscure and highly specific conditions.
 
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As I posted in the other thread - they generated graphs of the reports on Reddit and while there is a high correlation with ASRock boards it is far from only happening on ASRock boards, there does seem to be a high correlation with batch numbers and/or purchase date but that may be skewed by purchasing in the release window, etc. but it is not entirely confined to older purchases, the BIOS version has some implication but the problems appear to be far from isolated to being purely related to older ASRock BIOSes.

Most likely explanation so far is an edge case manufacturing issue which can be exacerbated by more than one condition.

Currently 9800X3D return rates are well under 1% with most retailers only seeing about half their returns being consistent with this failure - one retailer has reported 0.2% failures with over 20,000 units of the CPU sold.
 
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Epburpee said:
might have to change my choice of motherboard.
I like the Asrock M-ATX B 850 - G , mostly because its white.
I bought it already. But I dont want to be bothered with
it potentially ruining the 9800x3d Im getting.
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I bought my Asus b650e-f right at the time when gamer nexus was investigating the first lot of exploding cpus....solid motherboard and my CPU hasn't exploded
 
On Holiday said:
Initially they had a problem with stability - random power-offs.
They push a BIOS update to address that.
Now the issue is too much voltage frying poor-quality components. The unlucky ones also get long-term damage to the CPUs from being over-volted too long.
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Ironically there is an aspect of that with the Intel 13th and 14th gen CPU degradation - there was a problem with some early production CPUs having marginal stability with stock voltages so they updated the microcode to increase the voltage, which then pushed some other CPUs outside of the safe voltage range the other way and there is no way for them to distinguish between those CPUs.
 
It has sadly put a dampener on owning an Asrock motherboard.

Even worse because the 7800X3D and 9800X3D are good prices right now.

Didn't even feel comfortable recommending an Asrock motherboard to my lad who wants to build a PC for music production.
 
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