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I did drive it whenever but just felt like I was devaluing it all the time, and it became less special/more normal
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2018.
73k miles
It’s some sort of blue grey colour
Nice spec but not amazing.
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I am really glad I bought cheap that will be easy to move on. Its a nice car and good to keep for a little while but not a long term car for me.
I think its a 992 that will do it for me in the future.
well, I'm a week into the 981 S, my thoughts:
- Ignore the madness about steering. Its absolutely fine. Sure, it has a different feel to the hydraulic setup in the 987, but mine feels fantastic, and that is with old Eagle F1s on the front and an unknown alignment. I'm rectifying both as soon as our house completes and I expect a step change in improvement.
- PASM is excellent. I will almost certainly fit the X74 springs and anti roll bars to this setup to sharpen it up a bit though at some point. I'll see how the alignment goes and review in the summer next year.
- PSE is a riot. Its obviously a bit fake, but it sounds glorious when thundering through a section of road that has got tree coverage. The 981 sounds a lot more... exotic... than the 987.1 M97 engines.
- PTV... can I feel the diff? I don't know yet, I've not pushed it hard enough. However, it feels *so much more* composed than my 987 did, and that was a very well maintained car.
- Power. I will definitely be doing the remap to remove the limitations of the standard map. The decision is do I just go map and BMC filters... or do I get 200 Cell cats too - 350 vs 370 bhp there. I think that will absolutely transform the car.
- PDK - excellent. With the sport design wheel it feels really involving. I'm not missing manual at all.
- Seats. I went from 14 way Hardback Sports Seats to the 18 way Sports Plus seats. They are incredibly comfortable and hold me really well. Definitely worth seeking these out.
- Brakes. I've gone from a GT3 Master Cylinder, Braided Hoses and posh fluid on my 987 to the stock setup on the 981. The feel is excellent. No dead zone at the top. I will probably do braided hoses when the next fluid change is due, and swap into some Brembo HP2000 pads.
The short version? the 981 S is an *excellent* car.
- Ignore the madness about steering. Its absolutely fine. Sure, it has a different feel to the hydraulic setup in the 987, but mine feels fantastic, and that is with old Eagle F1s on the front and an unknown alignment. I'm rectifying both as soon as our house completes and I expect a step change in improvement.
- PASM is excellent. I will almost certainly fit the X74 springs and anti roll bars to this setup to sharpen it up a bit though at some point. I'll see how the alignment goes and review in the summer next year.
- PSE is a riot. Its obviously a bit fake, but it sounds glorious when thundering through a section of road that has got tree coverage. The 981 sounds a lot more... exotic... than the 987.1 M97 engines.
- PTV... can I feel the diff? I don't know yet, I've not pushed it hard enough. However, it feels *so much more* composed than my 987 did, and that was a very well maintained car.
- Power. I will definitely be doing the remap to remove the limitations of the standard map. The decision is do I just go map and BMC filters... or do I get 200 Cell cats too - 350 vs 370 bhp there. I think that will absolutely transform the car.
- PDK - excellent. With the sport design wheel it feels really involving. I'm not missing manual at all.
- Seats. I went from 14 way Hardback Sports Seats to the 18 way Sports Plus seats. They are incredibly comfortable and hold me really well. Definitely worth seeking these out.
- Brakes. I've gone from a GT3 Master Cylinder, Braided Hoses and posh fluid on my 987 to the stock setup on the 981. The feel is excellent. No dead zone at the top. I will probably do braided hoses when the next fluid change is due, and swap into some Brembo HP2000 pads.
The short version? the 981 S is an *excellent* car.
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You can have the GT3 steering software coded, which is much better supposedly.
I found the steering to be the biggest weakness of the 981 but it wasn’t as bad as everyone made out. Still miles ahead of the BMW one, for example.
I wouldn’t have X73 springs installed as they’ll lower the height another 10mm - I don’t think the car suits it having test driven one with X73.
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I normally get mine from the OPC, and they are pretty competitively priced.
I've had them match online places before as well, between the two OPCs which I use.
The X73 sports chassis option typically also features thicker ARBs, as I specified mine with that option on the GTS.
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In previous discussions about 981 and 718s, I’d talked about the fact that the 718 is the all round better car, and even if it doesn’t have the 6 cylinder howl, it still sounds immense.
The 6 cylinder was very addictive and enticing, but I could never get away from the steering - it felt completely numb.
Test drove a Boxster and Boxster S back to back recently (both 718s) and came to the conclusion that the 718 is the better of the two on standard suspension.
Not only can you enjoy pushing it a bit more without breaking the speed limit so quickly, it deals with the road better, being 10mm higher than the S.
Fancier turbo on the S is nicer but not worth the overall extra money.
Agreed a price on a 718 recently and hope to collect it soon. Reasonable spec and reasonably low miles.
The 6 cylinder was very addictive and enticing, but I could never get away from the steering - it felt completely numb.
Test drove a Boxster and Boxster S back to back recently (both 718s) and came to the conclusion that the 718 is the better of the two on standard suspension.
Not only can you enjoy pushing it a bit more without breaking the speed limit so quickly, it deals with the road better, being 10mm higher than the S.
Fancier turbo on the S is nicer but not worth the overall extra money.
Agreed a price on a 718 recently and hope to collect it soon. Reasonable spec and reasonably low miles.
I genuinely feel that you will convince yourself into whatever decision you want to make with the 981 /718 argument. I’ve owned a 981 S for 8 years and there is absolutely no way I would change it for an equivalent 718 even though I’ve driven plenty of them over the years and openly acknowledge they are the better steering, better handling car. For me, they miss the theatre of a flat 6. I’ll admit, I haven’t driven a 718 4.0, but been a passenger and they still don’t deliver the aural effect for me.
Am I biased? Of course but aren’t we all? End of the day, every boxer/cayman is actually a special car for the very reasonable costs they command these days and frankly you cannot make a bad choice.
Am I biased? Of course but aren’t we all? End of the day, every boxer/cayman is actually a special car for the very reasonable costs they command these days and frankly you cannot make a bad choice.
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I hear what you’re saying, but having owned both now, the 718 is a much better car for me personally. Still sounds great, better everywhere else.
Have bought some replacement washer jets as I’d forgotten how pants the originals are. Spray water everywhere except the screen
I’ve also emptied the washer tank completely and filled it up with the washer fluid I use - I do this on any car I purchase to avoid mixing different products in the tank.
Rear tyres are at 3.5mm so they’re on the list.
Won’t be putting on PS4S as I can’t stand the dull feel of them, and they’re silly money too (though about 950 at Costco atm).
It’ll either be Conti SC7 or Asy2 N rated. Not sure there’s anything else worth looking at.
Have bought some replacement washer jets as I’d forgotten how pants the originals are. Spray water everywhere except the screen
I’ve also emptied the washer tank completely and filled it up with the washer fluid I use - I do this on any car I purchase to avoid mixing different products in the tank.
Rear tyres are at 3.5mm so they’re on the list.
Won’t be putting on PS4S as I can’t stand the dull feel of them, and they’re silly money too (though about 950 at Costco atm).
It’ll either be Conti SC7 or Asy2 N rated. Not sure there’s anything else worth looking at.
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Ermmmm
Approx. £10k at the dealer for 2 replacements.
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Ermmmm
The more I look at it the more I sort of like it
. Techart have a history of making very silly body kits for the 911. Wouldn't be seen dead in one mind you!Argh! I don't know what's wrong with me, but I actually quite like the green 992 Carrera on their site.
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So... after I decided my gift to myself for my 40th (will be Jan 2027) would be the Cayman GTS 4.0 about 6 months ago - I've been keeping my eye on autotrader prices as I was, apparently mistakenly, expecting the prices to slowly drop (the bottom end but still low mileage etc were running £45k+)..... They don't even start until £55k now... What in the actual? 
At this rate they're gonna be 80k by my 40th 
But really, does anyone know why they're shooting up? I'm assuming folks have cottoned on to what I saw -- it's a daily-drivable GT4 for two-thirds the cost (at least it was, the prices are MUCH closer now) but there could also be some other reason I just don't know about?
At this rate they're gonna be 80k by my 40th But really, does anyone know why they're shooting up? I'm assuming folks have cottoned on to what I saw -- it's a daily-drivable GT4 for two-thirds the cost (at least it was, the prices are MUCH closer now) but there could also be some other reason I just don't know about?
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So... after I decided my gift to myself for my 40th (will be Jan 2027) would be the Cayman GTS 4.0 about 6 months ago - I've been keeping my eye on autotrader prices as I was, apparently mistakenly, expecting the prices to slowly drop (the bottom end but still low mileage etc were running £45k+)..... They don't even start until £55k now... What in the actual?
But really, does anyone know why they're shooting up? I'm assuming folks have cottoned on to what I saw -- it's a daily-drivable GT4 for two-thirds the cost (at least it was, the prices are MUCH closer now) but there could also be some other reason I just don't know about?
The 718 GTS never really dropped from what I’ve tracked, other than having little wobbles.
Especially now that Porsche have ceased production of ICE Boxster/Caymans other than perhaps GT/RS models.
This is why prices are going up. Those cars that exist now will never be replaced with something else.
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Well, a not so great update.
When picking up the car, I diagnosed a faulty sensor. It was agreed that the dealer would pay for it to be sorted at a specialist near me.
When I got home, I noticed the AC does not work.
Booked into Precision Porsche and they’ve found a number of other problems including:
Faulty switch unit for AC, exhaust clamp cracked, coolant leak and coffin arms debonded.
Total estimated cost: £5,400!!!
This is going to be a fun conversation with the dealer
When picking up the car, I diagnosed a faulty sensor. It was agreed that the dealer would pay for it to be sorted at a specialist near me.
When I got home, I noticed the AC does not work.
Booked into Precision Porsche and they’ve found a number of other problems including:
Faulty switch unit for AC, exhaust clamp cracked, coolant leak and coffin arms debonded.
Total estimated cost: £5,400!!!
This is going to be a fun conversation with the dealer
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A warranty is absolutely essential on these cars as bills can rack up very quickly.
In my ownership of a 991.2 I've claimed on warranty for 4 new rear springs, an exhaust backbox, a catalytic converter, lambda sensor, engine out to fix an oil leak, engine out for 2 replacement turbos, replacement spark plugs and a £1000 bit of interior trim.
I've paid for myself 2 new air con condensers, a replacement rear light, front discs and pads, replacement brake lines for corrosion and of course, tyres.
In my ownership of a 991.2 I've claimed on warranty for 4 new rear springs, an exhaust backbox, a catalytic converter, lambda sensor, engine out to fix an oil leak, engine out for 2 replacement turbos, replacement spark plugs and a £1000 bit of interior trim.
I've paid for myself 2 new air con condensers, a replacement rear light, front discs and pads, replacement brake lines for corrosion and of course, tyres.
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Ouch. That's not good news.Well, a not so great update.
When picking up the car, I diagnosed a faulty sensor. It was agreed that the dealer would pay for it to be sorted at a specialist near me.
When I got home, I noticed the AC does not work.
Booked into Precision Porsche and they’ve found a number of other problems including:
Faulty switch unit for AC, exhaust clamp cracked, coolant leak and coffin arms debonded.
Total estimated cost: £5,400!!!
This is going to be a fun conversation with the dealer
Do you know where the coolant leak is coming from? The coffin arms being debonded is rather unusual - how old is this 718? The price does seem pretty high, in my opinion, but that depends upon the specifics of each issue...
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Car is a 16 plate with 22k miles.
Unsure where the leak is coming from but in my experience Precision Porsche are excellent when it comes to diagnosing correctly first time, and prefer to repair rather than replace.
Sensors are 450
AC switch pack is 1065 due to individual switch not being available
Tailpipe clamp 560
Coolant system 1200
Geo 375
Rear coffin arms 800
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Has it been parked outside in the winter historically? It's quite unusual for the arms to fail at less than 10 years of age with more than just a bit of play.
Is the tailpipe clamp being referred to as the clamps for the exhaust tip? Those are just two basic clamps and easily replaced with Mikalor clamps. Chisel or grind the spot welds off the clamps, then replace with Mikalor clamps. It's a 30 minute job and the clamps aren't even a fiver. 560 seems a bit mental if that is what's being replaced.
The rest seems pretty standard if they are genuine Porsche parts. You could save some cost by finding the Porsche OEM and buying the part from there instead.
I think the dealer will scoff at the £5400 bill and want to look at other options. Are they a reputable dealer with a good rep?