Intel equivalent to AM5

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Hi,

I'm out of touch with pc specs but looking to build a nothing fancy AM5 build.

Ive only been looking at AM5 with AMD but just thought why don't I look at Intel.

Can I get more for my money with intel ?

What is AM5 in the intel world ?

Thanks Ben
 
BEN_UK said:
Hi,

I'm out of touch with pc specs but looking to build a nothing fancy AM5 build.

Ive only been looking at AM5 with AMD but just thought why don't I look at Intel.

Can I get more for my money with intel ?

What is AM5 in the intel world ?

Thanks Ben
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Arrow lake is Intels current gen (Core 200 series) CPU, the previous 14th and 13th gen Intel CPU's had problems so lots of people will tell you to avoid them.



Arrow lake wasn't well received because it was slower than 14th gen cpus and AM5 beats it.


New reports say that there will be refresh of Arrow lake next year on the same socket then later on in 2026 Nova lake should be released which will need a new motherboard.



AMD's AM5 socket has another gen of CPU's planned so still has an upgrade path and currently has entry level 6 core CPU's, up to 16 core CPU's and their x3d gaming CPU's to pick from.



As above if you post a budget, what you want to use it for, monitor resolution, and the spec of your current PC in case anything can be re-used people will post you some system build suggestions for you to consider.
 
NetMan said:
Arrow lake wasn't well received because it was slower than 14th gen cpus and AM5 beats it.
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That's partially true but not entirely, the 265K Core Ultra is very well priced right now and a very strong productivity CPU depending on tasks.

Puget Systems offers some good reviews in that regard, but suffice it to say it to say the processor matches or exceeds the likes of the 9900X and even 9950X in at least some tasks for a lot less money. That does however make it a pretty niche offering so by and large you're spot on, for gaming Arrow Lake should be ignored entirely and even outside of it there's an argument where platform longevity for future upgrades are considered even assuming the AMD offering is slower for certain tasks.
 
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Gray2233 said:
That's partially true but not entirely, the 265K Core Ultra is very well priced right now and a very strong productivity CPU depending on tasks.

Puget Systems offers some good reviews in that regard, but suffice it to say it to say the processor matches or exceeds the likes of the 9900X and even 9950X in at least some tasks for a lot less money. That does however make it a pretty niche offering so by and large you're spot on, for gaming Arrow Lake should be ignored entirely and even outside of it there's an argument where platform longevity for future upgrades are considered even assuming the AMD offering is slower for certain tasks.
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Fair point, I was just basing it on things I've read in the past but looking at some of the bench mark sites the 265k does very well against the 9700x which is probably its closest price point match on Overclockers.

Even mostly matching the 9700x in games in a YouTube video I just watched but that might have changed slightly since the video was made. Oddly I was expecting the intel CPU to draw a lot more power than it seemed to in the video because of its TDP.

I think AMD know they are on to a good thing with the x3d chips so are milking it a bit with their prices, but everything is expensive these days when £1k only gets you an entry level gaming PC.

The fall out from Intel’s 13th and 14th gen problems has probably put people off but it will be interesting to see what they do with Nova lake and what AMD do with their next round of chips.
 
NetMan said:
Fair point, I was just basing it on things I've read in the past but looking at some of the bench mark sites the 265k does very well against the 9700x which is probably its closest price point match on Overclockers.

Even mostly matching the 9700x in games in a YouTube video I just watched but that might have changed slightly since the video was made. Oddly I was expecting the intel CPU to draw a lot more power than it seemed to in the video because of its TDP.

I think AMD know they are on to a good thing with the x3d chips so are milking it a bit with their prices, but everything is expensive these days when £1k only gets you an entry level gaming PC.

The fall out from Intel’s 13th and 14th gen problems has probably put people off but it will be interesting to see what they do with Nova lake and what AMD do with their next round of chips.
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As I mentioned you're not wrong in the general sense but it's absolutely worth noting more niche scenarios. There's an odd one where (don't quote me on this) the AMD 9700X is actually the best CPU at stock settings for certain Photoshop usage, even when facing higher end AM5 chips.

It's rare that I advocate the Core Ultra series and I do not the prior gen for the reasons you've pointed out, but there are valid reasons to buy into Core Ultra (usually the 265K tbh), Intel dropped prices a fair bit.

For a general workstation with no gaming use my lean would be Intel unless there were specific software usage which skewed the other way.
 
Yeah the problem with Arrow Lake is definitely price, though that is can be slower than the 13th/14th gen while costing more was a big factor in the derision it got - that and how much Intel talked it up and then it didn't deliver.

CPUs are in a pretty mad place right now and you have to really look at what works best for your usage case and budget and you also have to bare in mind that while the 8 core / 16 thread X3D chips are the gaming CPUs right now they are at the end of the day 8 core / 16 threads and in some gaming usage i.e. if you multi-box game clients and/or have a lot of other stuff running while gaming, etc. you might get a better experience with a different CPU.

Also the X3D chips are most effective at lower resolutions and/or with the very high end GPUs - if you are running at say 1440p or 4K with something like a 4080 or 9070 [XT] and do stuff other than gaming you may again find a different CPU the better overall option.
 
Rroff said:
Yeah the problem with Arrow Lake is definitely price, though that is can be slower than the 13th/14th gen while costing more was a big factor in the derision it got - that and how much Intel talked it up and then it didn't deliver.

CPUs are in a pretty mad place right now and you have to really look at what works best for your usage case and budget and you also have to bare in mind that while the 8 core / 16 thread X3D chips are the gaming CPUs right now they are at the end of the day 8 core / 16 threads and in some gaming usage i.e. if you multi-box game clients and/or have a lot of other stuff running while gaming, etc. you might get a better experience with a different CPU.

Also the X3D chips are most effective at lower resolutions and/or with the very high end GPUs - if you are running at say 1440p or 4K with something like a 4080 or 9070 [XT] and do stuff other than gaming you may again find a different CPU the better overall option.
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I actually think if you're ready to research or ask the right people, we're at the best point in the history of tech for buying a CPU. When Intel nuked the prices the 265K became super competitive in some scenarios.

A good CPU is the one thing you can get something really good for almost any X scenario at a reasonable price, same with motherboards and until recently RAM and storage drives which have been heavily spiking in cost.

The only really crap component to buy has been the GPU imo.
 
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