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Upgraded to an AMD 9070 and now i'm getting mini freezes/hangs in game

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Hello, i have had my Asus 9070 for about 2 months now and i have been noticing something annoying, when playing games, the 2 i play currently are WoW and Deep Rock Galactic Survivor, both not very graphically intensive but every about 5minutes the games freeze for about 1 second. All other windows and applications keep running and update with audio and video so its not a whole system hang, its just that game I'm playing.

Prior to this card i had a 2060super which i ran DDU to get rid of all the drivers etc so it should all be fine and apart from this annoyance its been amazing, nothing phases the card and it never goes above 50c even at 100% utilisation, its insanely efficient.

Any advice would be great.
 
Hi mate, sorry that I can't help, but I will add my experience with this.
I would love to know what causes this, my friend has an AMD rig, and we went to play a game that we both own, and he had very high FPS, yet it would have these mini stutters that you mentioned? He has more VRAM than me too, so it wasn't that.

Before anyone says anything, no it isn't UE5 :P nor the 'games fault', as it doesn't do it on my Nvidia setup, and we both get decent FPS? Neither of us were using frame generation nor DLSS/FSR. Having tried it with DLSS/FSR it made no difference, his still did it with and without FSR on, and mine was still fine with and without DLSS.

I don't believe it to be a driver or game issue, as it did the same thing on the older drivers for my friend? And as aforementioned, if it was the game, then it'd happen to me on my rig, wouldn't it.
 
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Go into steam and delete all shader caches.
Go into ad remove programs and make sure all Nvidia programs are removed. Go into device manager and enable hidden devices remove any Nvidia programs. Disconnect any usb hubs and devices only leave mouse and keyboard to see if this make a difference. Do you have any fan controller software yep that can cause problems aswell. The holy trinity of motherboard bios chipset drivers and windows updates needs to be done. Check temps of all equipment and also uninstall any unnecessary programs. If you still
Have problems find a spare drive and install a fresh copy of windows as this has fixed a few peeps problems.
 
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eeii said:
Go into steam and delete all shader caches.
Go into ad remove programs and make sure all Nvidia programs are removed. Go into device manager and enable hidden devices remove any Nvidia programs. Disconnect any usb hubs and devices only leave mouse and keyboard to see if this make a difference. Do you have any fan controller software yep that can cause problems as well. The holy trinity of motherboard bios chipset drivers and windows updates needs to be done. Check temps of all equipment and also uninstall any unnecessary programs. If you still
Have problems find a spare drive and install a fresh copy of windows as this has fixed a few peeps problems.
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Couldn't have put it better. :cool:
 
If that doesn't work try a fresh windows install on a spare empty HD. If that sorts it, then you know something on your existing Windows install is causing the problem.
 
deviation said:
Hi mate, sorry that I can't help, but I will add my experience with this.
I would love to know what causes this, my friend has an AMD rig, and we went to play a game that we both own, and he had very high FPS, yet it would have these mini stutters that you mentioned? He has more VRAM than me too, so it wasn't that.

Before anyone says anything, no it isn't UE5 :P nor the 'games fault', as it doesn't do it on my Nvidia setup, and we both get decent FPS? Neither of us were using frame generation nor DLSS/FSR. Having tried it with DLSS/FSR it made no difference, his still did it with and without FSR on, and mine was still fine with and without DLSS.

I don't believe it to be a driver or game issue, as it did the same thing on the older drivers for my friend? And as aforementioned, if it was the game, then it'd happen to me on my rig, wouldn't it.
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post directly after yours, tell them to do this with the shader cache
might not be that BUT i see this so often that it has basically become one of the first things to check as it is fairly common
did he have a different gpu before he/she got the amd card they are using now?
 
mark 11:11 said:
post directly after yours, tell them to do this with the shader cache
might not be that BUT i see this so often that it has basically become one of the first things to check as it is fairly common
did he have a different gpu before he/she got the amd card they are using now?
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Hi mate, I'll text him and tell him to try clearing the shader cache, I'd totally forgot you could do that on AMD via the menu in Windows, thanks for that!
No it's always been this GPU bud, and a clean install not long ago with all games downloaded fresh off Steam.
 
You had a system that ran fine and purchased a new card that now causing problems so the time to try and fix this was within the return window for the card. Now you have to jump through a bunch of hoops to try and fix an issue that may not be able to be fixed for a GPU that should just work out of the box as now one is in a situation where you have to turn to the internet for help and returning the card is going to be trouble.
 
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You had a system that ran fine and purchased a new card that now causing problems so the time to try and fix this was within the return window for the card. Now you have to jump through a bunch of hoops to try and fix an issue that may not be able to be fixed for a GPU that should just work out of the box as now one is in a situation where you have to turn to the internet for help and returning the card is going to be trouble.
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I dont think it is a GPU issue. It'll be something left over from the switch from Nvidia. I always advocate a fresh os install but I think we're all just listing additional things to try before hitting that inevitablity.
 
deviation said:
Hi mate, sorry that I can't help, but I will add my experience with this.
I would love to know what causes this, my friend has an AMD rig, and we went to play a game that we both own, and he had very high FPS, yet it would have these mini stutters that you mentioned? He has more VRAM than me too, so it wasn't that.

Before anyone says anything, no it isn't UE5 :P nor the 'games fault', as it doesn't do it on my Nvidia setup, and we both get decent FPS? Neither of us were using frame generation nor DLSS/FSR. Having tried it with DLSS/FSR it made no difference, his still did it with and without FSR on, and mine was still fine with and without DLSS.

I don't believe it to be a driver or game issue, as it did the same thing on the older drivers for my friend? And as aforementioned, if it was the game, then it'd happen to me on my rig, wouldn't it.
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You say he gets very high fps which could be going past his monitors refresh rate. Enable vsync or limit fps to the same as the montiors frequency otherwise you will get microstutters since the monitor cannot display more frame than it's capable of.

As for OP's problem, use DDU to totally remove the old Nvidia drivers/software and reinstall. Also install latest AMD Chipset drivers.
 
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fs123 said:
You say he gets very high fps which could be going past his monitors refresh rate. Enable vsync or limit fps to the same as the montiors frequency otherwise you will get microstutters since the monitor cannot display more frame than it's capable of.
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His monitor has Freesync Premium, so that shouldn't be a problem and isn't in any other game, even when playing CS2 at silly high FPS. We have tried that though, and didn't solve it.
It also occurs on higher settings when he's only getting around 80-110FPS in said game. So it's a strange one for sure!
Clearing the shader cache helped a fair bit though :)
 
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eeii said:
Go into steam and delete all shader caches.
Go into ad remove programs and make sure all Nvidia programs are removed. Go into device manager and enable hidden devices remove any Nvidia programs. Disconnect any usb hubs and devices only leave mouse and keyboard to see if this make a difference. Do you have any fan controller software yep that can cause problems as well. The holy trinity of motherboard bios chipset drivers and windows updates needs to be done. Check temps of all equipment and also uninstall any unnecessary programs. If you still
Have problems find a spare drive and install a fresh copy of windows as this has fixed a few peeps problems.
Click to expand...
Done all of this already, it was a complete fresh install and done all the basics like that. I saw a few people had issues with game mode on W11 so disabled that but nothing. Everything runs cool, CPU at 70 during the last game it happened and gfx card at 30c, nothing else was running but every 4-5minutes i get a 1-2second freeze. I disabled all the extra options in the AMD drivers to see if it was some scaling issue but nope nothing. Im starting to wonder if it was since the latest AMD driver update......maybe there is an issue with it for some reason, i cant think of anything else.
 
Sounds like something is taking up cpu cycles every so often and it's making the gpu wait for what it needs.

For software make sure there is no AV running and no CPU/GPU/framerate monitoring tools running
For hardware make sure there is no overclock or underclock, PCI-e speed is correct etc
 
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