4K UHD Movie streaming rig
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I think he is just saying it is the same price as 48GB, so might as well go with "more for less"
Seems like he also uses it as a multi-room home media server and rips his own files from UHD/4K Blu-Ray discs, you're talking 50-60gb + of DATA at a time. He's not streaming from Amazon or Netflix or whatever, they use far less bandwidth and don't really require much in the way of user processing.
I imagine if others in the household decide to stream in their own rooms while he's ripping a file it might require a bit of oomph.
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Given your usage, I wouldn't bother with the faster kit, but your call.
My basket at OcUK:
- 1 x Crucial Pro 48GB (2x24GB) DDR5 PC5-44800C46 5600MHz Dual Channel Kit (SKU: MEM-CRU-01086) = £99.95
- 1 x Crucial Pro 48GB (2x24GB) DDR5 PC5-48000C48 6000MHz Dual Channel Kit (SKU: MEM-CRU-01087) = £124.99
Total: £228.94 (includes delivery: £3.99)
a 12400 would be fine with that all day. or a 13500 would be a solid choice
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I stream multiple 4K HDR with Atmos and subtitles from my 120U no issues and that's with transcoding. I never mentioned Amazon or Netflix?
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Never said you did, just explaining the OP's position.
I suspect the biggest issue is running it as a media server for probably multiple devices in use at the same time while he's doing those tasks, the system he's considering is not a route I would go personally and I actually do something similar myself but my gaming rig + separate home server does the job just fine anyway, most of my home devices are heavily mixed use so I can justify a more powerful rig in that regard.
I'd probably look at picking up a second hand entry level server of some sort for less than £200-300, or depending on how many users are involved repurpose the bits and bobs I have sat around into an entry level AM4 purely due to the fact I have said things sat around anyway.
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I was in a similar situation to the OP before and during Windows 7, I get the desire for it to be in one machine. Before Netflix and Prime was a thing I was running MyMovies over Windows Media Center on old LGA775 and then Haswell machines. But streaming became popular, Window 10 dropped media center, and the cost of buying Bluray and specifically UHD was simply the same price as streaming multiple subscriptions. The last move I bought on UHD was Dawn of the dead, it cost more than a months subscription to Prime or Netflix or Apple or Disney, and was streaming in UHD on one of my subscribed channels a month later, I have owned that movie on Video, Laserdisc, DVD, Bluray and UHD, like many other movies I have owned multiple copies as formats changed. I watched that disc once.
I never needed a server as Windows allowed homegroup hub with Windows 7 Ultimate, and you can also configure home network and sharing with Windows 10/11. Most modern Smart TV's can also simply stream from a designated PC. Multiple TV's at that. Switching the PC off at night meant the kids were not up all night streaming movies like Terminator or 9.
With that in mind, my current build was built with archiving some of my movies and music collection in mind, but as my main PC that I play games and waste time on with various other nonsense, it's usually connected to a seperates system and 4k TV too. If it gets to a point it needs more than two or four HDD, if anyone else was streaming from the PC, I would probably say it's time for me to get a NAS. Thing is, it's another box to work with. My biggest issue is the choice of optical drive these days for ripping, having to pay over the odds for some old second hand firmware modded drive is putting me off. But the reality is unless it's a NAS and its easy access on the TV, no one in my house will bother.
If I wanted a PC with no GPU, to archive and make a serious media library within, with the Fractal Node 4. Simply for a personal movie system that I was seriously into, I would want a machine that rips movies quickly and is fun to work on, with items I personally like. I love Noctua, I love Seasonic, sadly no Prime Titanium or Silent with 10 sata on OC, these are rather pricey PSU's though.
I would be tempted with a Gen 5 NVMe simply to run the OS and programs from and work the projects on, though I am old and like a seperate OS/program drive, with a work table NVME/SSD general stuff and move finished stuff to the main storage. I am imagining simply wanting to work on batches of 4k content where possible quickly. I am guessing you have a decent external UHD drive or two to rip from. No other reason than how I remember it being more fun and quicker ripping Bluray to an SSD with the 4770K after using the Q9550 and Samsung F3's, I remember ripping on dual core with 4gb and the awsome speed of four core with 8gb (it's in my head so must have been). Sure it's not needed. But in theory you could rip a lot more UHD movies to an NVMe building large folders that can then after your finished can be transfered to HDD when your sleeping.
About the only reason I can think of using a Gen 5 NVMe would be if working with 4k video files. I use a 1tb Gen 4 NVMe with 4tb Gen 4 NVMe simply because I am daft that way, yet the data will be archived on HDD, and if in a NAS would be again HDD. This is probably just my brain flatulence though.
My favorite coolers are Noctua, I have a U14s and U12s myself. These days I would be tempted with the newer U12a though. Currently quite pleased with Arctic Freezer 36 black with P series case fans as I wanted a dark themed build for a change, the Noctua is quieter. With that in mind if it was a definitive build I would simply go Noctua inc case fans, though I would contemplate G2 on the cooler too. I want a media PC as quiet as possible. As I said earlier my preference in PSU is Seasonic Prime, 850w for most current PSU's are usually the best vallue, with the required Sata cables.
The 265k is great value right now being on sale and only £30 more than the 245K I think if I had stuck with Intel and not read about the best gaming CPU's being AMD that would have been on my list, but that can drawn some power, the U12A would be a better option than the U12s with this. And no point going 48gb when you can just go 64gb 6400Mhz which I believe may be the sweet spot for these CPU's.
Seagate Ironwolf Pro is a drive I have considered, 16tb seems the best price per GB currently. I like to keep the drives the same, dumb glitch I have. The larger capacity drives are almost twice the price for only a bit more storage. 6x16tb will not be a lot if you have a massive UHD library, but you can start with what is needed and add as it grows, Raid 5 with 6 HDD drives can be configured with Windows.
Maybe taking it all a bit far, but nothing wrong with nice high spec equipment if it makes your hobby a little more fun and nicer to own.
My basket at OcUK:
I never needed a server as Windows allowed homegroup hub with Windows 7 Ultimate, and you can also configure home network and sharing with Windows 10/11. Most modern Smart TV's can also simply stream from a designated PC. Multiple TV's at that. Switching the PC off at night meant the kids were not up all night streaming movies like Terminator or 9.
With that in mind, my current build was built with archiving some of my movies and music collection in mind, but as my main PC that I play games and waste time on with various other nonsense, it's usually connected to a seperates system and 4k TV too. If it gets to a point it needs more than two or four HDD, if anyone else was streaming from the PC, I would probably say it's time for me to get a NAS. Thing is, it's another box to work with. My biggest issue is the choice of optical drive these days for ripping, having to pay over the odds for some old second hand firmware modded drive is putting me off. But the reality is unless it's a NAS and its easy access on the TV, no one in my house will bother.
If I wanted a PC with no GPU, to archive and make a serious media library within, with the Fractal Node 4. Simply for a personal movie system that I was seriously into, I would want a machine that rips movies quickly and is fun to work on, with items I personally like. I love Noctua, I love Seasonic, sadly no Prime Titanium or Silent with 10 sata on OC, these are rather pricey PSU's though.
I would be tempted with a Gen 5 NVMe simply to run the OS and programs from and work the projects on, though I am old and like a seperate OS/program drive, with a work table NVME/SSD general stuff and move finished stuff to the main storage. I am imagining simply wanting to work on batches of 4k content where possible quickly. I am guessing you have a decent external UHD drive or two to rip from. No other reason than how I remember it being more fun and quicker ripping Bluray to an SSD with the 4770K after using the Q9550 and Samsung F3's, I remember ripping on dual core with 4gb and the awsome speed of four core with 8gb (it's in my head so must have been). Sure it's not needed. But in theory you could rip a lot more UHD movies to an NVMe building large folders that can then after your finished can be transfered to HDD when your sleeping.
About the only reason I can think of using a Gen 5 NVMe would be if working with 4k video files. I use a 1tb Gen 4 NVMe with 4tb Gen 4 NVMe simply because I am daft that way, yet the data will be archived on HDD, and if in a NAS would be again HDD. This is probably just my brain flatulence though.
My favorite coolers are Noctua, I have a U14s and U12s myself. These days I would be tempted with the newer U12a though. Currently quite pleased with Arctic Freezer 36 black with P series case fans as I wanted a dark themed build for a change, the Noctua is quieter. With that in mind if it was a definitive build I would simply go Noctua inc case fans, though I would contemplate G2 on the cooler too. I want a media PC as quiet as possible. As I said earlier my preference in PSU is Seasonic Prime, 850w for most current PSU's are usually the best vallue, with the required Sata cables.
The 265k is great value right now being on sale and only £30 more than the 245K I think if I had stuck with Intel and not read about the best gaming CPU's being AMD that would have been on my list, but that can drawn some power, the U12A would be a better option than the U12s with this. And no point going 48gb when you can just go 64gb 6400Mhz which I believe may be the sweet spot for these CPU's.
Seagate Ironwolf Pro is a drive I have considered, 16tb seems the best price per GB currently. I like to keep the drives the same, dumb glitch I have. The larger capacity drives are almost twice the price for only a bit more storage. 6x16tb will not be a lot if you have a massive UHD library, but you can start with what is needed and add as it grows, Raid 5 with 6 HDD drives can be configured with Windows.
Maybe taking it all a bit far, but nothing wrong with nice high spec equipment if it makes your hobby a little more fun and nicer to own.
My basket at OcUK:
- 1 x Asus Prime Z890M-Plus WIFI (LGA 1851) DDR5 mATX Motherboard (SKU: MOT-ASU-03433) = £269.99
- 1 x Intel Core Ultra 7 265K (Arrow Lake) Socket LGA 1851 Processor - Retail (SKU: PRO-INT-03111) = £289.99
- 1 x Corsair Vengeance 64GB (2X32GB) DDR5 PC5-51200C40 6400MHz Dual Channel (SKU: MEM-CRS-02843) = £259.99
- 1 x Samsung 9100 Pro 4TB M.2 2280 PCIe 5.0 x4 NVMe Solid State Drive (SKU: STO-SAM-04767) = £424.99
- 1 x Samsung 990 Pro 4TB M.2 2280 PCI-e 4.0 x4 NVMe 1.3c Solid State Drive (SKU: STO-SAM-00984) = £284.99
- 6 x Seagate 16TB IronWolf PRO NAS HDD 7200RPM 256MB Cache Internal Hard Drive (SKU: STO-SEA-00568) = £319.99
- 1 x Noctua NH-U12A High Performance CPU Cooler - 120mm (SKU: HS-03K-NC) = £110.00
- 1 x Antec HCG 850 Pro Platinum 850W ATX3.1 Full modular Power Supply (SKU: POW-ATC-02745) = £159.94
- 4 x Noctua NF-A12x25 G2 PWM Sx2-PP Fan - 120mm (SKU: COO-NOC-05677) = £54.95
Total: £3,939.64 (includes delivery: £0.00)
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Theoretically a 1GB network should be more than enough for streaming rips with lossless audio etc, but might be interesting to connect the pc and the media player up directly and see if you encounter the same issues.
Might find your network is the issue, if so sort that out and potentially save a few bob over upgrading your PC.
Might find your network is the issue, if so sort that out and potentially save a few bob over upgrading your PC.
Ok, I have just purchased the Intel® Core™ Ultra 7 Desktop Processor 265K 20 cores (8 P-cores + 12 E-cores). I have also purchased the Asus Prime Z890M-Plus WIFI (LGA 1851) DDR5 mATX Motherboard. Any pointers on what cooler I should buy to fit my Factual Node 804 case? I'm looking for it to run as quietly as possible, I have the glass window on the side, but I'm not really bothered about lighting etc, I'm more bothered about he performance foremost.
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Does using an AIO or an air cooler, offer any advantage in terms of airflow and fitting drives?
The 265K is a low power and easy to cool CPU on light load, but the top-end figure is high (150+ watts), so an air cooler may need some adjustment for best results.
I'd definitely not recommend a single tower air cooler for this CPU if it will be run flat out, but they could handle light/medium load. A peerless assassin/phantom spirit would be fine in almost all circumstances, if they can fit comfortably in the case.
A 240mm AIO would also be enough, which I can see has a few mounting points in the Node.
Thank you for the reply.
What one would you recommend? I would like to try and keep my build as quiet as possible.
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If you can answer my questions about the case, then we'll know better what to suggest. Though, I believe you already have a 240mm AIO? So, maybe that is the simplest solution, since I assume it works for your config at the moment.
This is what I'm running in my case at the moment:
Motherboard ASUSTeK COMPUTER INC. MAXIMUS VI GENE (SOCKET 1150)
Power Supply MSI MPG A850G PCIE5 Power Supply Unit, UK Plug - 850W, 80 Plus Gold Certified
Ram DDR3 32 GB
CPU Intel core i7-4700 3.50ghZ
Cooler Corsair Hydro Series H100i v2
Ram 32.0GB Dual-Channel DDR3 @ 665MHz (9-9-9-24)
1863GB Western Digital WDC WD20EARX-00PASB0 (SATA ) 33 °C
11176GB Western Digital WDC WD120EDAZ-11F3RA0 (SATA ) 36 °C
223GB Crucial_CT240M500SSD1 (SATA (SSD))
18627GB Western Digital WDC WD201KRYZ-01BBDB0 (SATA ) 33 °C
9314GB Western Digital WDC WD100EFAX-68LHPN0 (SATA ) 35 °C
9314GB Western Digital WDC WD100EFAX-68LHPN0 (SATA ) 34 °C
9314GB Western Digital WDC WD100EFAX-68LHPN0 (SATA ) 32 °C
9314GB Western Digital WDC WD100EFAX-68LHPN0 (SATA ) 37 °C
I also have a few Noctua case fans running.
All is working well.
Hmm, if you're happy with what you have now, I think you can get a retrofit kit for socket 1700, which will make it compatible with 1851 (since they use the same mounts).
The thread below suggests that the Corsair kit is not compatible, but the Asetek bracket is. Only snag is, the links are defunct, but I suspect (from copy paste the model number) this is it.
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Hmm, if you're happy with what you have now, I think you can get a retrofit kit for socket 1700, which will make it compatible with 1851 (since they use the same mounts).
The thread below suggests that the Corsair kit is not compatible, but the Asetek bracket is. Only snag is, the links are defunct, but I suspect (from copy paste the model number) this is it.
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Many thanks, ordered
Back to the Ram, the Overclockers price has gone up on the Corsair, any other suggestions?
Fingers crossed, will be a cheap fix if that's the right kit!Many thanks, ordered
Yikes, that's one hell of an increase. I can't really see anything suitable, but I believe you can still get them at similar prices for now.
Edit: I missed that you said Corsair, I thought you were referring to the Crucial kits I suggested, can you clarify?
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I have sourced Corsair Corsair VENGEANCE® 64GB (2x32GB) DDR5 DRAM 6000MT/s CL40 Memory Kit for £188, also the VENGEANCE 64GB (2x32GB) DDR5 DRAM 5600MT/s for £141.08, Would either of these be a better option than the Crucial Pro 48GB DDR5 6000MHz RAM 24GBx2 at £120?
Just trying to future proof myself!
Just trying to future proof myself!
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Did you say that you do video editing? I can't remember. 48GB would usually be sufficient.
Anyhow, if you think you'll need 64GB then sure, either of those would work, though note that those Crucial kits are both JEDEC kits and don't need XMP/EXPO to operate at their rated speed, whereas those kits you mentioned I assume would need it.
I use Photoshop, I rip 4K UHD Video, what kit do you reckon is the best option for me?
Many Thanks.
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