ze germans beg to differ, 90s was hay day for build quality and reliability, before company car dumbing down of those marques eg. my m54/3 series,
wasn't jaguar good too, but don't ever remember one of those in company car park.
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wasn't jaguar good too, but don't ever remember one of those in company car park.
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personally I wouldn't swap mine for any other Jag (except for an F-Type perhaps but that too is a modern car)
I think you look back with rose-tinted specs.
Mercedes had a terrible time with rust and general reliability in the late 90s
BMW had many engines that loved to lunch themselves in the 90s. All the V8s prior to the N62 4.4 (3.0 and 4.0 M60) had issues with bore coatings.
Jaguar were in the Ford ownership era. The S-type was a disaster at launch with terrible engines and poor build quality. X-Type was OK for the most part. XJ was a good car but very old-school compared to the E38 and W140.
Audi had the D2 A8 and were doing good things.
Nissan have a terrible habit of using cheap, hard, scratchy plastics somewhere which rattle around, the Qashqai I have is a N-Vision spec which has the top level trim except different seats (I actually prefer them to the all leather seats of the Tekna trim though) and despite soft touch materials and nicer parts on the prominent surfaces still uses cheap plastics for less prominent parts of the interior which completely destroy the illusion of something nicer.
The 370Z is quite nice inside, though some bits were outdated even at launch and still has cheap plastics in places, overall the interior is pretty decent in my opinion, build quality feels fine overall despite 1-2 areas where they cheaped out.
One of the problems with Nissan I find is the Renault injection, anything Renault in Nissan vehicles tends to be ****.
EDIT: I probably should pop along to the EV event see what the new ones are like interior quality wise, the [existing] Leaf is generally OK - they threw a bit more attention at it to try and sell the model. Apparently the new Leaf draws quite a bit from the Ariya interior wise and is better than average for Nissan quality.
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The other consideration is cost.
20 years ago it feels that a mid range family car (think ford Mondeo) brand new cost a lot less than a mid range family car doors today (even adjusted for inflation).
Or put another easy a current mid range car (Skoda Superb) would have got you a Merc/Volvo back then.
Still can't get my head around Kias and Hyundai's costing 50k plus
20 years ago it feels that a mid range family car (think ford Mondeo) brand new cost a lot less than a mid range family car doors today (even adjusted for inflation).
Or put another easy a current mid range car (Skoda Superb) would have got you a Merc/Volvo back then.
Still can't get my head around Kias and Hyundai's costing 50k plus
I tried to do the man maths but after realising that going from 17” tyres to 20” costs twice as much - I can only imagine the servicing / consumable costs in one of them!
Quickly talked myself out of it. Pitty as they are stunning and very performant!
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tyres wise I have found F1 auto centres to be excellent for tyres cost wise. I saved £50 a corner for my 20" tyres on my ipace (£175 a corner fitted for all weather Goodyear eagle sport tyres). my wifes i3 tyres were also £20 each less as well
hardly cheap by any metric but not insane either.
hardly cheap by any metric but not insane either.
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I have 20" at the moment
Even though they are £1000+ a set, at least there is competition that keeps tyre prices somewhat controlled - imagine the cost of services! I’m still furious that service costs are still the same for EV’s even though they do way less.
I can’t bring myself to have £1000 services!
The I-Pace is almost as good as a Taycan for handling and performance and large chunk cheaper
2019 with 58,000 miles, Dynamic suspension, 22” alloys (some of the carbon fibre inserts missing) full 360 cam, HUD, full leather dash upgrade. £15800.
At that price (if you are looking at Taycans) you would take a punt it will last 4-5 years, service it privately and just run it until it breaks.
2019 with 58,000 miles, Dynamic suspension, 22” alloys (some of the carbon fibre inserts missing) full 360 cam, HUD, full leather dash upgrade. £15800.
At that price (if you are looking at Taycans) you would take a punt it will last 4-5 years, service it privately and just run it until it breaks.
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imo if you want to get an ipace (I really like mine) i personally would look to go for a late 2020 facelift model or newer. It has a pivi pro entertainment system, 11kw AC charging and most importantly drops one of the 12v batteries which is i understand it a bit of a pain to replace.
it has some smaller changes as well. slightly more practical rear seats configuration for instance(40:20:40 folding down as opposed to 60:40)
He just really likes TaycansWe still talking tyres sizes?
It’s more about a very cheap high powered EV with great handling (especially with adaptive dynamics and suspension). One you start looking at similar spec late 2020 or early 2021 models you can add about £6000 to the price.
This is specifically the fully specd first edition models with pretty much all the bells and whistles.
The cost of rubber to cover that size….
XXXL king size?
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