i saw this on the gamers nexus video about smuggling gpus into china
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Sold 5090 On eBay - Buyer says its faulty
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When this started I had no idea we would be getting a sequel so soon.
I think "So, I gave them a stern reading to in Times New Roman, Italic!" would make a rather amusing T-Shirt group buy
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mate, hate to be bearer of bad news but bank transfers can be reversed and its a nightmare to prove your innocence to the bank and your bank gets red lighted(froze) and it affects your future montage and borrowing( if you have any). I have read of horror stories, personally would not take the risk. What I would do ask for cash on pickup only and its not loosing the money that's the problem its dealing with the banks investigation afterwards if the person claims money was taken from his bank illegally.
Also he can make payment on his phone and shows it to you and you think money is in there and they he can reverse it.
just not worth the risk, I would rather burn the 5090 than sell it like that. I use to see this scam on eBay, seller would pay via PayPal and then pickup item, and then ring eBay and say item never arrived, hence why eBay now do that while "provide code" on pickup. Cash on pickup if you want to be safe and make sure you check the money is not fake.
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If a PC shop said it didn't work, and you received a working unit back, I would be stress testing this before opening a dispute with eBay. I would be demanding money back to cover the financial loss and time wasted and report the buyer as fraudulent. A GPU cannot simply go out working, arrive not working, be tested in a shop with a dodgy PC with no PSU and show as not working, just to be sent back and be working, something not right with all this, more holes than a B-Movie plot.
With all this I would be making a thread and video of it working, and naming the shop and buyer in that, making sure they clearly see it does work and that they have no right putting their hands inside a PC.
That the PC repair shop said it didn't work is pretty alarming too, so stress test it. Otherwise do they look like Donkeys and know Hee Haw?
With all this I would be making a thread and video of it working, and naming the shop and buyer in that, making sure they clearly see it does work and that they have no right putting their hands inside a PC.
That the PC repair shop said it didn't work is pretty alarming too, so stress test it. Otherwise do they look like Donkeys and know Hee Haw?
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how would he prove to ebay that it was working ?
its now his word against the buyers. and given that ebay lean towards the buyer everytime it would be a waste of time to try and pursue this.
chalk it up to experience and move on.
I think it’s safe to be honest. I won’t be allowing it to leave until I confirm the receipt of the money in my account. I will have enough evidence to show that the purchase is genuine including video footage as there are cameras everywhere.
I wouldnt risk it personally. Certainly not for the sum of money involved.
Cash only or if you really want it electronically paypal friends and family while they are there
This is why I would rather sell things cheaper on here or cheaper to friends and family.... Never had any issues so far. I am part of the Ebay Reddit community and more and more scams are happening on there. The most common one is brand new phones from new sellers for under like £700 or £750. Its to do with how simple delivery works and how easy it is to fool the system. As usual people think thats cheap and im protected and so buy dirt cheap Iphone pro 17 max for £700 thinking it will be fine. Also you forget the buyer has like a year at least to claim theres a problem on ebay. So you sell them a card and then in 6 months they need the money back they can open a case its faulty and you HAVE to accept it back and refund them.
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FGS you are all making a drama out of nothing.
yes there are scammers out there, but the majority of sales happening are with legit buyers.
no one would ever sell anything to anyone ever with this mindset.
and stop telling the guy "I would only sell on here" he doesn't have access to Members Market and is unlikely to ever have.
yes there are scammers out there, but the majority of sales happening are with legit buyers.
no one would ever sell anything to anyone ever with this mindset.
and stop telling the guy "I would only sell on here" he doesn't have access to Members Market and is unlikely to ever have.
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Proving it's working is simply stress testing it, showing a video of it and the test results. It simply shows eBay that they and you as a seller were scammed or that the return was under false pretense. I never gave up when I was scammed as a seller and as a buyer, they usually side with common sense. When a seller sold me a fake damaged motherboard, I told eBay, and I also included pictures and copies of the correspondence and lies the seller made. eBay didn't side with me because they side with buyers, they sided with me because I showed them the guy was a lying sack of excrement selling faulty motherboards and not the actual product he had taken a picture of by taking my own pictures showing small variations not on the listing photos.
It may well be a waste of time, but lets face it, the OP phones a fake repair shop who claimed they got some non tech person to fit and test a 5090. This sounds a bit "Jackanory tell me a story" to me, someone somewhere is telling tall tales. A lot of time wasted chasing up some interesting themes.
Reporting such false returns is part of eBay's policy, you can look it up. If you do nothing your simply letting someone bend you over, if you report it there is at least a record that will be noted and affect the buyer.
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eBay's policy focus:
The eBay Money Back Guarantee is designed to protect buyers when items are faulty or not as described. However, sellers are protected by the policy when a buyer returns an item in a different condition than received or if they are found to be abusing the process.
They state, issue a full refund, do NOT deduct, and tell you to take photo's or videos that dispute the buyer claim.
Report the buyer:
After issuing the refund, go to the item in your Returns dashboard and select Report Problem to report the buyer for misusing the returns process.
I lost interest when the story started taking weird curves, especially at the point of phoning strange repair shops to chase up something one of their customers claimed with regard to a PC with no PSU where a repair shop has the non tech who gets to play around with a 5090 to see if he can get it working for a customer paying for tech services. Not sure how UK GDPR laws are affected by strangers phoning a shop to ask about what a guy buying stuff off eBay was claiming. Frankly no genuine retail business should be disclosing any information on customers or what they were having done. The fact that he has it on record that the buyer took it to someone where a non qualified staff member tinkered with it would be grounds for a serious questioning about what was returned. I would certainly be providing those details to eBay and questioning why I am being asked to accept a product that was worked on by a non qualified staff member in a repair shop.
I mean can you imagine buying something, deciding you do not want it despite the UK right to return policy, but instead taking it to a garage where they let the cleaner try and fix what isn't broken?
So not only was the claim made it was not working, there is also a claim that the buyer had someone work on the GPU, and one of those people was not qualified to do so.
Not sure what eBay policy is on sold goods being tinkered with then returned as not working, but usually a buyer claiming to have something worked on is a red flag as it then disqualifies their own return policy as the sold item cannot be returned as purchased due to having been used and worked on.
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unfortunately this is not a joke just a statement of fact lolPlenty of courier companies ready to prove you wrong !
even if you have vids of it working he can claim it must have been damaged in transit
everyday I have things delivered which have been squashed/chucked/wet??? and numerous other types of damage fedex and Dx are really bad
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this would be more of a case of somehow being undamaged in transit
ie it apparantly didnt work when it was sent but somehow does work fine when it arrived
obviously you would need to prove you havnt somehow fixed it after it was returned though so i think that might be an issue but ehhhh
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yeah ive had some absolute shockers with couriers lol
guitars well just lol
sent one up to a friend in leeds and errrr well he ended up with a guitar and a bag of plastic parts
which use to be the guitars case
which was actually worth more than the guitar lol
i get major anxiety every purchase these days lol todays anxiety thankfully just got delivered with no problems
was a 4tb 990 pro from ocuk and did in fact feature the much coveted haribo
but for every good delivery like todays theres usually 99 major epic fails i find
I sold a GPU once and the courier left it beside the buyer's bin , it rained, box got soaked through, GPU seemed OK but even the foam inside was wet so buyer did not want to risk it. Filed a claim with courier and they paid full retail value.Plenty of courier companies ready to prove you wrong !
A good outcome there though as package was fully insured via Parcel2Go.
Most recently I sold 2 items in MM via royal mail tracked 48 as well and RM lost BOTH items in the system! No tracking update after 2 weeks, nobody knew where it was, seems very suspect that 2 items sent the same day via the same sorting office go missing..... Refunded buyers of course and RM claims ongoing.
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that's shocking from RM....
A friend previously ordered a GPU from OC, DPD man put it in the recycling box, at the end of his drive, on collection day... Wouldn't have had any idea if it wasn't for the bin-man knocking on his door saying "Guessing you didn't put this out"