That’s all true but the claim was it proves your right to work when it doesn’t because you can have an NI number and not have the right to work (e.g. your visa expired).
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Yeah, but it's still related, I'm not sure anyone has specifically said it was?
They've stated they've multiple verifiable forms of ID plus NI to ensure they're paying tax appropriately which is necessary for legitimate work, and while it isn't proof of a right to work it is related to the intent of digital ID.
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As @b0rn2sk8 says, NI doesn't determine if you have the right to work and whilst it connects a 'number' to someone's tax status, it isn't always a requirement for someone to secure work, ie - someone can be a contractor or self-employed. And not everyone has a driving licence nor a passport.
Depending on implementation, having something that proves Right to Work isn't in itself a bad thing, well not unless you're an employer or employee that skirts employment/tax laws
That isn't what the Government (currently) appears to be proposing for the ID nor has there been any information on what information/data is to be stored or that this Digital ID would supercede other forms of existing ID.
And even it was to be a fully fledged national ID, you only need to look at other countries variants to see what type of data is stored, typically this differs to other forms, and it uses, you still need driving licences and passports etc.
Again, people seem to be up in arms of this proposed ID for proving Right to Work but seem perfectly content with existing digital IDs like passports and driving licences where both contain similar data (to one and another) and a breach of either could potentially cause a person serious headaches.
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Exactly, neither of those forms of "ID" (NI isn't ID) prove RtW and it isn't what the Government is (currently) proposing.
Edit - To be honest, little information has been released on exactly the whats and hows other that it's to prove RtW, not a requirement to carry and you'll need a smartphone.
It's pointless for people to worry about what-ifs and assumptions and conjure up borderline conspiracies at this stage until the Government offers clarification on their proposal.
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if your not a british citizen they have an Evisa they can give a code for and the employer can check it online
Right to work checks: an employer's guide
How to carry out right to work checks, why you need to do them, and which documents you can use.
no one is employing people by accident or because they have an NI number.
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For their intended goals and what has been talked of as to future trajectory it leans that way (Starmer's talk of it being embedded in everyday life, etc.), unlike other forms of ID it is also easier for the scope to creep that way especially under an unscrupulous government.
So all of them then ...
This doesn’t contradict why I wrote.if your not a british citizen they have an Evisa they can give a code for and the employer can check it online
Right to work checks: an employer's guide
How to carry out right to work checks, why you need to do them, and which documents you can use.www.gov.uk
no one is employing people by accident or because they have an NI number.
You can have an NI number and not have the right to work in the UK, ergo the NI number doesn’t prove you have the right to work in the U.K. which was the original claim.
For example you could have worked in the U.K. when we were a part of the EU, if you were not part of the cohort who could apply for settled status, you’ll not have the right to work in the U.K. but you’ll have a legitimate NI number.
it does if you were born here though
On a more general note - had a few experiences over the years with people sharing IDs for work, not sure why they would in some cases, and has been outright dangerous in others due to the training involved. Last Christmas had a lad who I only found out later, though suspected something suspicious at the time, had an identical twin who was coming in for some shifts and picking up overtime. Previously had agency drivers where 2 or 3 other people have or have tried to do some of their shifts, etc.
Digital IDs aren't going to solve that aspect unless we go full on biometrics.
Digital IDs aren't going to solve that aspect unless we go full on biometrics.
Government to consult on digital IDs for 13-year-olds
There has been a backlash to the announcement a UK-wide digital ID scheme will be introduced by 2029.
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That didn't take long
what does starmer mean when he said over 1 billion people voluntarily have a national ID in india, because its easier to access your money and send funds.
he does realise how banking apps work?. most of india is still living a hundred years in the past
maybe its so big in india because I bet most of the population have 0 ID and western union etc is likely massive over there....
why would a digital ID make it easier for me to access my own money or send payments.....
is your digital ID also going to be your customer number with every service and site... maybe its easier because you only have one number to remember lol..... oh wait its an app anyway
he does realise how banking apps work?. most of india is still living a hundred years in the past
maybe its so big in india because I bet most of the population have 0 ID and western union etc is likely massive over there....
why would a digital ID make it easier for me to access my own money or send payments.....
is your digital ID also going to be your customer number with every service and site... maybe its easier because you only have one number to remember lol..... oh wait its an app anyway
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And so the list of things Kier wants this to be used for keeps expanding.... Bank accounts/payment services... 'accessing your own money'
Are we going to have to link our clubcards to it next so they can tell if we're eating too many burgers?
Are we going to have to link our clubcards to it next so they can tell if we're eating too many burgers?
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but theres probably 20 pages of people saying its all a conspiracy.
Maybe these starmer clips are AI deep fakes the news around the world think are real
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Possibly, but it's being spread by the Express and GBNEWS, so if they get sued out of existence for libel then I'll take that as a consolation prizebut theres probably 20 pages of people saying its all a conspiracy.
Maybe these starmer clips are AI deep fakes the news around the world think are real
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erm that was sarcasm
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Yep, same for my response
woosh, hard to spot these days
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